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February 22, 2011

A Satmar Community Has New Ban

Satmar Lakewood Ban Against Leading Prayers If Currently Uses Internet Without Filter Anyone who uses  the Internet without a modesty filter can't lead synagogue prayers.

From the Lakewood Voice:

Satmar Lakewood Ban Against Leading Prayers If Currently Uses Internet Without Filter

[Hat Tip: Jew Dude.]

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LOL "Shehuchshar MaiRabbonim" meaning first the Rabbi's reviewed and approved all the porn sites (i.e. the CCTV of the Women's Mikveh, etc.)

No filter no amud. For child molesting you get shishi. Beat your wife and you get shlishi.

for fighting with your brother in public, in a non-jewish court, you become rebbe.

This is not ssamar just Lakewood satmar shul.

When will they ban assraping hairless youth?

This is not ssamar just Lakewood satmar shul.

Posted by: obudsmann | February 21, 2011 at 10:32 PM

You're right. I forgot to put the "A" in the title. I fixed it.

unbelievable,thyrew getting more and more fanatic about nonsense and less and less caring about real problems in our community

How do they tell who has a filter and who doesn't? Do they go around to people's houses trying to access inappropriate sites to see if they have a filter?

The Wolf

How do they tell who has a filter and who doesn't? Do they go around to people's houses trying to access inappropriate sites to see if they have a filter?

Why not? Their rebbe used to test hosiery to ensure it was opaque enough!

I hope that the prison in Virginia does not have unfiltered internet otherwise Weingarten will be unable to daven for the tzibbur.

oy vey iz mir:)

Putting all sarcasm aside.(which is the amusing part of this site) To ban something that is obviously wrong and detestable is moronic.( see Bfeirush in Fartscroll post) Like 'we ban murder'. However as most of us know the overwhelming majority of charedim are decent god fearing folk. That being said, someone who is to lead the congregation in prayer should be one who has given his being some attempt at being wholesome and pure. Internet without a filter is to tempting for a person not to wander and look at forbidden things. And yes... it is not an 'enforcable' ban. They are relying on ones honor to abide by their rule.

For being a thief motherfucker you get Maftir and shishi, If your an ass but you have money, you get to be rosh hakohel.If you Swindled your brother , sister, best freinds and got caught and jailed you get PIDYON SHEVIUM. If your a sex addict chazir its the Victims fault. hey do good rabonim no one listens to you anymore because you guys have screwed up /priorities

Of course if you are Zaali you also must filter out Aharoni mudslinging and vice versa. If you are Satmar but unaffiliated you just have to live without the Internet. Otherwise you could get unfiltered information about Arizona weather and the percentage salt in Arizona irrigation water.

But the good news is that neither will ruin your day with any suggestion that there are criminals from Satmar in your neigborhood or at least not the kind that should be in jail.

I don't understand what the issue you have with this. All that this is is a shul that has a nonexistent community in Lakewood who's rabbi is requesting that those without filters shouldn't lead prayers. Noone is coming into anyone's home, this is a pure honor system which everyone should be abiding by anyways when keeping within the frum standards of modesty.

Satmar USED to be THE place, before the Dayan fought with his son-in-law etc, Meir Reevin left, Leifer opened, etc.
Today it's a litter-filled homeless shelter with every misfit hawking his wares.

For being a thief motherfucker you get Maftir and shishi, If your an ass but you have money, you get to be rosh hakohel.If you Swindled your brother , sister, best freinds and got caught and jailed you get PIDYON SHEVIUM. If your a sex addict chazir its the Victims fault. hey do good rabonim no one listens to you anymore because you guys have screwed up /priorities

Posted by: Moshe aron Kestenbaum, Williamsburg ODA | February 22, 2011 at 08:31 AM

MAK from Villy, vich Aliya do yu get?

They are relying on ones honor to abide by their rule.

this is a pure honor system

The irony.

Meanwhile, who determines what level the filter is set at? Obviously no pornography, but what about avodah zorah? Can you look at a site about Buddhism? What about kefira? Can you read about cosmology and evolution?

They really are turning into caricatures of themselves.

Avrohom Reichman, the serial child molester, is kodesh kodashim. He remains as rebbe and principal with a waiting list of students wanting to get into his class. Nuchem Rosenberg, who has exposed dozens of molesters and saved countless lives, OTOH is put into cherem and is not allowed into any shul in Williamsburg. This is justice, Niederman/Satmar style.

steve,
What excatly did reichman do?

Nuchem Rosenberg was also shot in the head and he even knows who was behind it. Please tell us more what a pure and good person NR is.

I wonder what the veiled threat at the end insinuates. It states "and violators...."

Maybe one of the satmar brothers in the argument will lift the ban just to piss the other brother off!

its very telling that there is no specific similar ruling for loshon hara, eating treife, or masturbation. the rabbis realize that the biggest danger to their lifestyle is information and education. the communitys ignorance must be ensured.

Dersheker,

Do you need a biology lesson? What about child molestation don't you understand? Reichman is a child molester. Multiple victims have come forward. R' Nuchem has worked tirelessly to remove these molesters from our midst.

Wouldn't someone gladly daven for the amud to prove he has a filter even though he doesn't? This is all a bunch of bullfoof. If there is a guy who won't daven for the amud when the gabbai asks him repeatedly will he be suspected of being filterless?

Convicted child molester Yechiel Jerry Brauner gets to daven for the amud in the Shomerei Molesters shul in Boro Park.

If these people don't work and are on the dole, how can they afford computers?

For being a thief motherfucker you get Maftir and shishi, If your an ass but you have money, you get to be rosh hakohel.If you Swindled your brother , sister, best freinds and got caught and jailed you get PIDYON SHEVIUM. If your a sex addict chazir its the Victims fault. hey do good rabonim no one listens to you anymore because you guys have screwed up /priorities

Posted by: Moshe aron Kestenbaum, Williamsburg ODA | February 22, 2011 at 08:31 AM

MAK from Villy, vich Aliya do yu get?

corn I get shit. corn you see in wily if you want an aliya ya have to kiss ass, I refuse to kiss ass so I only get to hold the kappora chicken . corn find me a shul in your neck of the woods that do give aliyas,, Maybee the shul Toms river gives an aliya to a dick like me,,lol

No lesson,steve. Just what did Reichman do to those multiple kids?
Are you this stupid to believe that a school would keep a rebbe if he is a child molester?
Why would anyone PROTECT him if he is what he is accused of?

I would rather be in the company of Niderman/satmar or anyone else who PROTECTS child molester then in the company of NR who works so tirelessly to remove these molesters from our midst.


Moshe aron Kestenbaum, Williamsburg ODA,

Are you really Moshe aron Kestenbaum?
Do you really live in williamsburg/
Are you affiliated with ODA?

Just what did Reichman do to those multiple kids?

He is an indisputable child molester. He even failed a lie detector test. There are several victims. One of them is now a victims' advocate. Another went to Dov Hikind and requested anonymity so he wouldn't ruin his shidduchim prospects. There are others who are simply afraid to talk but they have confided with JBAC members.

Are you this stupid to believe that a school would keep a rebbe if he is a child molester?
Why would anyone PROTECT him if he is what he is accused of?

Why did YTT protect Kolko for 35 years? Why did YOB protect Nussbaum? Why did Gerer protect Leizerowitz? Why did NIRC protect Eisemann? Why do yeshivos continue to protect their child molester rebbes? Simple, it is bad for business to fire them and to admit that they harbored a child molester. Better that hundreds more get molested than for the yeshivos to suffer any financial loss.

I would rather be in the company of Niderman/satmar or anyone else who PROTECTS child molester then in the company of NR who works so tirelessly to remove these molesters from our midst.

I am not surprised. You fit the profile of an enabler to a tee.

>Can you read about cosmology and evolution?

It's time to get back to basics and talk about those important subjects. I think one should read those about those topics (cosmology...perhaps...it isn't really physics or even science, but celestial mechanics for sure) I wouldn't use a filter on principle alone. Anyone here use a kosher filter?

lol

Steve: Reichman may or may not be a child molester; I have no way of knowing.

But "failing" a lie detector test, or for that matter, "passing" one, isn't proof of anything. That's why lie detector tests are generally disallowed in court.

These tests are dependent upon the examiner convincing the person undergoing the test that the machine is accurate. Basically this is done by having the person "lie" on something which is known to be false; the machine then shows the persn is "lying." Problem is, the examiner gooses the polygraph to produce erroneous results.

Frequently a suspect then admits his crimes, as he now is led to believe the machine is infallable.

The victims are real life, flesh and blood human beings. They don't merely exist in cyber space or in the minds of people. One day soon a few of them will introduce themselves to the NYPD and the DA's office and will file criminal charges against that sexual predator. Other arrests will follow for those that were responsible for his rehiring.

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