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Posted by: Jeff | January 18, 2015 at 12:21 PM
I know the guy who publishes this "coloring book". He has a salt & pepper beard, and shnors in Flatbush. Wonder how much money, normal thinking people have given him, thinking it goes for Tzedakkah.
I also wonder how many sensitive YOUNG children (it is geared for Kindergarden & Nursery & first grade; above that coloring is bittul Torah) seeing and THEN COLORING this scary insane stuff become affected for life!
Would like to hear the opinion of a child psychiatrist on this curriculum in the Jewish Madrassah.
Posted by: Flatbusher | January 18, 2015 at 12:27 PM
These are the same coloring books that I had when I was a kidb(35 years ago) growing up in Borough Park.
Posted by: joe | January 18, 2015 at 12:36 PM
Well it could be worse. They could be sending their kids to military style summer camps the way the Palestinians do.
It is time for Congress to amend the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and make it clear that this type of education is not acceptable.
Posted by: Rocky | January 18, 2015 at 12:49 PM
Another very slow day in the basement :) why this is newsworthy is beyond me.
By the way Shmaryah,,the average non frum kid by that age has watched on t.v and videos thousands of violent assaults bloody stabbings murders rapes etc.etc.and that you have no problem with,it is only a childrens coloring book depicting one of the ten plagues that is bending you out of shape,how pathetic can you get?
Posted by: JACK | January 18, 2015 at 01:00 PM
I tink Iz ok.let the yingelit no de emes az der ameshteh hob gegaibein de reshooim a Makeh gedalya
Posted by: Hocker613 | January 18, 2015 at 01:00 PM
JACK-ASS.
You really think that the average non-drum kid has watched 1000s of stabbing, murders, and rapes by age kindergarten? On what basis do you make such a claim? Your own sick imagination?
You are an ignorant schmuck with a Gemorah kupp
(Gemorah kupp = shit for brains).
Posted by: dapper danny | January 18, 2015 at 01:11 PM
that should be "non-frum"
Posted by: dapper danny | January 18, 2015 at 01:12 PM
Jack--
Why do the kids look like chasidim? Shouldn't they look Sfardi?
Also, I've known kids who had been traumatized by violent parsha sheets.
Posted by: Bas Melech | January 18, 2015 at 01:16 PM
"You really think that the average non-drum kid has watched 1000s of stabbing, murders, and rapes by age kindergarten? On what basis do you make such a claim?"
Danny, it's common knowledge in the frum world that everyone who isn't following the Toyreh way of life is a drug-addicted fornicator who is one-step away from being a serial killer.
Posted by: Jeff | January 18, 2015 at 01:18 PM
JACK---It is nestwrothy because the ones who draw and think like a 2 year old are similar to your acting out here on fm, in short mindless morons.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 18, 2015 at 01:18 PM
Jack--
Watching violence on TV desensitizes many non Jewish kids to violence (which the know/think is make believe). Young chasidic and charedi children don't watch TV. Also, to them the parsha sheets depict actual events.
Posted by: Bas Melech | January 18, 2015 at 01:22 PM
Hocker613--The horrible yiddish that you scribble here is a groissen makeh on us trying to decipher your narishkeit.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 18, 2015 at 01:22 PM
I heard they found shmura matza crumbs by the "Sea of Reeds". Next to it was a box of Oberlanders Lady Fingers. But changed to just "Fingers" in 2002, cause it sounded too sensual.
Posted by: Gay Frum Jew | January 18, 2015 at 01:23 PM
Jeff---"Danny, it's common knowledge in the frum world that everyone who isn't following the Toyreh way of life is a drug-addicted fornicator who is one-step away from being a serial killer."
And those who do follow the toyreh are addicted to thievery and deception in addition, child molestation and abuse.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 18, 2015 at 01:28 PM
Results of a 15 year study by the University of Michigan.
"An average American child will see 200,000 violent acts and 16,000 murders on TV by age 18 [15].
Two-thirds of all programming contains violence [16].
Programs designed for children more often contain violence than adult TV [17].
Most violent acts go unpunished on TV and are often accompanied by humor. The consequences of human suffering and loss are rarely depicted.
Many shows glamorize violence. TV often promotes violent acts as a fun and effective way to get what you want, without consequences [18].
Even in G-rated, animated movies and DVDs, violence is common—often as a way for the good characters to solve their problems. Every single U.S. animated feature film produced between 1937 and 1999 contained violence, and the amount of violence with intent to injure has increased over the years [19].
Even "good guys" beating up "bad guys" gives a message that violence is normal and okay. Many children will try to be like their "good guy" heroes in their play.
Children imitate the violence they see on TV. Children under age eight cannot tell the difference between reality and fantasy, making them more vulnerable to learning from and adopting as reality the violence they see on TV [20].
Repeated exposure to TV violence makes children less sensitive toward its effects on victims and the human suffering it causes.
A University of Michigan researcher demonstrated that watching violent media can affect willingness to help others in need [20a]. Read about the study here: Comfortably Numb: Desensitizing Effects of Violent Media on Helping Others.
Viewing TV violence reduces inhibitions and leads to more aggressive behavior.
Watching television violence can have long-term effects:
A 15-year-long study by University of Michigan researchers found that the link between childhood TV-violence viewing and aggressive and violent behavior persists into adulthood [21].
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This Shmaryah and the sewer rat calling himself
"dapper danny"and Jeff don't have a problem with,but a coloring book that is a BIG problem.LOL
what sick minds
Posted by: JACK | January 18, 2015 at 01:29 PM
great history lesson too. twentieth century housing and clothes. non native animals. pre chasidism chasids. pre torah tzitzit....
Posted by: typadder | January 18, 2015 at 01:32 PM
Jancsi.
How many times to we have to tell you,that when grownups have a discussion,stupid and mindless MARMAROSHER poodles should not mix in and get involved,now be a good little poodle and go back to licking your masters boots
Posted by: JACK | January 18, 2015 at 01:32 PM
Jack--
Didn't your yeshiva teach you to respect you elders? You bootlick your masters too and don't have an independent thought. Toyrah teaches reasoning and questioning, as well as respecting the wisdom and experience of elders.
As I've stated earlier, I've known children who became traumatized by violent parsha sheets.
Posted by: Bas Melech | January 18, 2015 at 01:44 PM
The Egyptian neighborhood looks just like a shtetl street in Eastern Europe.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | January 18, 2015 at 01:46 PM
JACK –
We all realize you're not bright enough to grasp this, but this quote from your comment above also applies to hasidic parsha coloring sheets:
"…Children under age eight cannot tell the difference between reality and fantasy, making them more vulnerable to learning from and adopting as reality the violence they see on TV…"
Past that, what children that age see on TV largely is not racist and bigoted violence – it's cartoon violence of the Bugs Bunny-Elmer Fudd type.
They're not seeing cartoons of evil Jews being devoured by wild animals which do not harm the hasidic kids because hasidic kids are holy Jews.
Work really hard to get your very undersized brain to process that.
Posted by: Shmarya | January 18, 2015 at 01:48 PM
Nice colouring, neat and in the lines.
Posted by: Malka | January 18, 2015 at 01:49 PM
Shmarya--
Well said. As a mother and grandmother, I can vouch for the truth in what you wrote.
Posted by: Bas Melech | January 18, 2015 at 01:57 PM
JACKass---The toyreh itself is extreemly violent with killings and sex with animals depicted, you are truly a fool of gigantic proprotions. |
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 18, 2015 at 01:59 PM
I'm not sure what Shmarya, Jeff and co find so objectionable.
But what I DID notice is the presence of a (poorly sketched) dinosaur in the top left corner!
Now how do they explain THAT one in the Chassidisheh cheyder?
Posted by: MosheCohen | January 18, 2015 at 02:02 PM
Jack, so the evidence you provide for your claim that non-frum kindergarteners have watched thousands of stabbings and rapes is a study about 18 year-olds?
You're clearly not very intelligent.
Dumb AND aggressive and arrogant is not a good combination.
Posted by: SimoneF | January 18, 2015 at 02:03 PM
Past that, what children that age see on TV largely is not racist and bigoted violence – it's cartoon violence of the Bugs Bunny-Elmer Fudd type.
They're not seeing cartoons of evil Jews being devoured by wild animals which do not harm the hasidic kids because hasidic kids are holy Jews.
Shmarya.
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ok, now your problem is, that it's racist because it claims the animals devoured only the Egyptians and not the Jews,
Shmaryah,then your problem should be with the TORAH (bible) and not with a coloring book,after all the book only repeats what is stated in the bible,
wouldn't be surprised one nice day reading that Shmaryah Rosenberg has started a movement to ban the teaching of the racist Torah
Posted by: JACK | January 18, 2015 at 02:06 PM
The toyreh itself is extreemly violent with killings and sex with animals depicted,
Jancsi.
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Jancsi,this post of yours is a perfect example why some people here call you a "MARMAROSHER FERD and a mindless little poodle.because what does what you just posted have anything to do with what we are discussing here?.
Shmaryah,complained that the Satmar coloring book is too violent for children,and i asked him if he is realy worried about children reading about violence,why isn't he complaining about the violence on TV and videos,which are a hundred times more violent than those coloring book.
Now you come and vomit out this statement that "The toyreh itself is extreemly violent with killings and sex with animals depicted,"
now tell us you MARMAROSHER FERD what does this have anything to do with the discussion we are having? answer,nothing, zilch, nada.
Jancsi,your problem is that you do not comprehend what the issues being discussed are,but you do want to show Shmaryah your master what a loyal mindless poodle you are,therefore you start jumping up and down and barking your idiotic statements that have absolutely nothing to do with anything being discussed,now go back and tell your master to throw you your daily juicy bone
Posted by: JACK | January 18, 2015 at 02:33 PM
I also saw the dino but we can explain that they died out in the not too distant past. What really impressed me was how the houses and barns of Egypt of old look similar to the buildings of Europe and America of the last century. But I guess if the Jews stood at Sinai in black suits and furry hats then maybe the buildings in Egypt were as pictured.
Posted by: cow doc | January 18, 2015 at 02:42 PM
I'll repeat myself:
gemorah kupp = shit for brains
Posted by: dapper danny | January 18, 2015 at 02:42 PM
Jack, so the evidence you provide for your claim that non-frum kindergarteners have watched thousands of stabbings and rapes is a study about 18 year-olds?
You're clearly not very intelligent.
SimoneF.
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SimoneF.
Have you a problem reading and comprehending the English language? (did you graduate a chareidi school :)
here,let me refresh your memory and quote you exactly what they wrote,
" An average American child will see 200,000 violent acts and 16,000 murders on TV by age 18"
Hey genious,did you get it,they are talking about CHILDREN who by the time they reached 18 have watched 200,000 violent acts,they are not complaining about 18 year olds.
was that so hard to comprehend?
Posted by: JACK | January 18, 2015 at 02:46 PM
jack-Hey moron let me refresh your feeble memory the average yeshiva kid will learn 200.thousand acts of violence against nonjews in the toyreh with al the makhes in egypt and the gemoro beastiality and who knows how many chayev mises killiongs and fornication adulterires ox gorings is that so hard to understand .
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 18, 2015 at 02:57 PM
"…Hey genious,did you get it,they are talking about CHILDREN who by the time they reached 18 have watched 200,000 violent acts,they are not complaining about 18 year olds. was that so hard to comprehend?"
JACK –
Again, most of us realize you're not bright and we're not at all surprised by your public displays of stupidity.
Now process:
Because the average American child has seen X number of violent acts in cartoons and fictional TV shows by the age of 18 does NOT mean the average 6- or 7-year-old American child has seen that number or that the violent acts they have seen are comparable to what older children see.
Past that, the violence the average preschool to first grade child in America sees is minimal. They primarily watch things like Sesame Street, Calliou, etc., which have no violence at all.
The problem, according to the University of Michigan, is that children that young cannot distinguish between fantasy and fiction on one hand and reality on the other. To them, all of it is real.
That's why almost all violence shown kids that age is harmful to some degree – and that includes violence like that shown on the hasidic parsha coloring sheets posted above.
What's most troubling about your responses – besides your hateful attempt to denigrate and smear Jansci using the exact same type of bigotry you fail to notice in these parsha coloring sheets – is that you understand none of this. You don't even grasp that those parsha coloring sheets teach that bigotry is okay.
You are a prime example of what is wrong with haredi education and the haredi community in general.
Posted by: Shmarya | January 18, 2015 at 03:11 PM
Dumb Story and argument.
Of course, if you follow Shmarya's logic, the Orthodox Jewish and Christian children should have the higher propensity for violence than children in secular schools, seeing as they study the 'violent' biblical narratives from a young age. The stupidity of that argument is pretty obvious so I'll leave the brain dead here to continue this asinine conversation...
Posted by: JamesMadison | January 18, 2015 at 03:43 PM
Ancient Egypt had modern houses? They don't even have modern-style houses today.... WTF?
Posted by: David | January 18, 2015 at 04:00 PM
"The problem, according to the University of Michigan, is that children that young cannot distinguish between fantasy and fiction on one hand and reality on the other. To them, all of it is real."
Most people seem never to mature beyond that stage.
Posted by: Jeff | January 18, 2015 at 04:04 PM
who is jeff and co? are you saying jeff and co and shmarya are one and same?
Posted by: oy yoy yoy | January 18, 2015 at 04:11 PM
is that a green dinosaur or a kangaroo? looks like a dinosaur to me... quick, get the publishing police to give their psak. we may have to ban this whole lot and make a recall.
Posted by: oy yoy yoy | January 18, 2015 at 04:16 PM
It appears to be a large cat of some kind standing on its hind legs and using its front paws to open the closed door of a non-Jew's house.
Posted by: Shmarya | January 18, 2015 at 04:22 PM
I like the carnivorous giraffe.
Posted by: David | January 18, 2015 at 04:53 PM
Some people might think this is "merely" bizarre but to keep children so ignorance of the "facts", even those that are presented in the Torah is child abuse, plain and simple.
Posted by: David | January 18, 2015 at 04:56 PM
Ignorant not ignorance.
Posted by: David | January 18, 2015 at 04:56 PM
Jack, you really are a complete idiot.
As for "JamesMadison," no-one has said that Orthodox Jewish kindergarteners have witnessed more violent acts than other kids. So your comment makes no sense at all.
The pictures merely illustrate the stunning stupidity and ignorance on multiple levels of those that produce and distribute them.
Posted by: SimoneF | January 18, 2015 at 06:22 PM
Shmarya never spent endless hours in Imaginarium. It's a green dinosaur.
Posted by: dh | January 18, 2015 at 06:39 PM
The horror of this picture is extraordinary.
Teaching small kids that other human beings are lower forms of life, undeserving of empathy, is primitive savage cultures do. Dehumanization is key to brutality and killing that comes with such primitive thought.
This picture is actually what a mass murderer might sketch, since the damaged brain cannot distinguish between appropriate and inappropriate, horror and goodness are the same to the psychopath. Absolute lack of empathy, in this picture demonstrated by the Hasidic youth, is psychotic.
Think about how an Islamic man can enter a shop in France and kill innocents in cold blood. The shop worker who saved the lives of many must not have had this type of coloring book in his youth; he had empathy for the innocent.
Even if you buy into this fantastic tale depicted in the sketch, what benefit is there to encouraging such horrific lack of compassion?
No complete halel is said on Passover to diminish the joy since god’s children, the Egyptians, were destroyed.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 18, 2015 at 06:41 PM
Excellent points Pard. And don’t we also pour wine out of the cup at the recitation of each plague at the Passover Seder to show our joy being diminished?
I agree that the picture is horrible. But the whole plague story is horrible to begin with. Inflicting collective punishment on a whole nation (including children and babies) because of the stubbornness of one man. What kind of justice is that?
Posted by: Allan | January 18, 2015 at 07:28 PM
They're teaching complacency in watching other human beings being hurt and killed. Way to go Torah Jews!!
Posted by: tucsonjew | January 18, 2015 at 08:01 PM
SimoneF- Read the comments directly above mine.
The picture depicts the biblical tale. While you may not like the story of an evil nation being destroyed by a vengeful lord, it is the most famous story ever. If it horrified you don't read it, but don't project your idiocy to others. In fact, do project. Nobody cares anyhow.
Posted by: JamesMadison | January 18, 2015 at 08:21 PM
The problem here is the importance of this sheet in the child's mental development.
Jewish kids receive this sheet as a true depiction of "Jewish reality", of how things were, how they are and will always be.
A kid who watches a violent movie/game knows that is a fantasy. A kid who receives a sheet based on TORAH teachings, will respect and believe that this is really the truth.
Worse, they learn that it's ok for non jews to be eaten alive while they can play as nothing is happening... let the snake kill the evil non jewish neighbor, I will keep davening as nothing was happening. We don't see that in violent movies, where we are always "taught" to care and wish to save the character who is suffering.
(a carnivorous giraffe?)
Posted by: surprised | January 18, 2015 at 08:34 PM
That row of houses looks like a street in Satu Mare. The giraffe is looking for Rabbi Teitelbaum in the two story Shul. Gevald! A young boy, seven years old was just raped in the mikva.
Posted by: Gay Frum Jew | January 18, 2015 at 09:45 PM
Wow, the non-Jews in the second picture look very, um, Slavic. These people really do think they're living in Poland.
You gotta love the kids petting the crocodile. Or the predatory giraffe.
Won't these people's minds be blown to learn that "arov" were probably some sort of flies.
Posted by: Nachum | January 19, 2015 at 05:04 AM
This picture is troubling, but no more so than the text from which it is drawn (copied below). This is exactly the same stuff every Jewish and Christian kid in the country is taught in Sunday school. So why is it "psychopathic" here? Because the picture is set in "modern" times? Would it be better if there were pyramids in the background instead? I'd hate to see the picture associated with the Tenth plague...
This is just what comes along with the basic fallacy of treating a book conveying a 2,000 year old tribal moral code as though it were anything more than an interesting historical artifact. In this the Hasids are no different.
Exodus - Chapter 8
8:17 If you do not let My people leave, I will send swarms of harmful creatures [to attack] you, your officials, your people, and your homes. The houses of Egypt, and even the ground upon which they stand, will be filled with these creatures.
8:18 'On that day, I will miraculously set apart the Goshen area, where My people remain, so that there will not be any harmful creatures there. You will then realize that I am God, right here on earth.
8:19 I will therefore make a distinction between My people and your people. This miraculous sign will take place tomorrow.'
8:20 God did this, and huge throngs of creatures attacked the palaces of Pharaoh and his officials. Throughout all Egypt, the land was devastated by the creatures.
Posted by: facts&law | January 19, 2015 at 03:03 PM
facts&law: "Would it be better if there were pyramids in the background instead?"
Yes it would be better to show pyramids in the background. That way the frum children might get the tiniest sliver of history and geography along with the fairytales and narishkeit.
Posted by: dapper danny | January 19, 2015 at 09:07 PM