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October 27, 2014

Government’s Ban On West Bank Palestinian Workers Riding Jewish-Run Buses Called “Apartheid” – By Israelis

Moshe_Ya'alon“Not only has Defense Minister Ya’alon destroyed our relations with the United States; now he is also destroying our relations with the entire democratic world. This is an official, governmental stamp of approval for a policy of apartheid in the territories. Segregation between Palestinians and Jews will only entrench Israel’s status as a pariah state in the world."

Above: Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon

Government’s Ban On West Bank Palestinian Workers Riding Jewish-Run Buses Called “Apartheid” – By Israelis
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

Israel’s Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon issued a decree banning all Palestinians working in Israel from riding in Jewish-run buses back to the West Bank, Ha'aretz reported. Ya’alon made that decision after West Bank Jewish settlers bitterly complained the Palestinians caused the buses to be overcrowded and that they harassed female Jewish riders.

Jewish settlers made it clear it was racially pure buses, not threats of terrorism, that caused them to want to ban the Palestinian workers.

For example, Member of Knesset Moti Yogev from the right-wing Zionist Orthodox pro-settler HaBayit HaYehudi Party complained about having to ride buses with Arabs.

“Riding these buses is unreasonable. They are full of Arabs. We have heard disturbing testimonies from girls who were harassed by Arabs during the bus ride," Yogev said after riding one of the bus lines now covered by Ya'alon's ban. He added that many Jewish settlers avoid those bus lines because of it.

Sunday, in the face of heavy criticism from Israel’s left-wing, Ya’alon tried to justify his ban by claiming it was issued for security reasons.

But GOC Central Command Major General Nitzan Alon told Ha’aretz yesterday that the IDF does not consider the Palestinian workers entering Israel to be a security threat because they all have to get pre-approval from both Israel’s internal security service commonly known as the Shin Bet and Israel Police in order to get entry work permits, and they also undergo body checks at border crossings.

Alon also pointed out that terror attacks inside Israel that have been carried out by West Bank Palestinians were carried out by Palestinians who did not have permits and who entered Israel proper to work illegally.

But that didn’t stop Ya’alon, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-wing Likud Party who is seen as Netanyahu’s rival, from appeasing the West Bank Jewish settlers and banning the Palestinians anyway.

This caused an explosion of left-wing criticism and again renewed the feeling many have that Israel is slipping ever-closer to open state racism.

Ya’alon’s office (and some settler leaders) belatedly tried to couch the ban in terms of national security.

“The decision will not prevent Palestinians from going to work and continuing to make a living. No one is stopping the Palestinians from continuing to work inside Israeli territory and reaching their destinations. The opposite is true. This is purely a security-related matter, and its purpose is to supervise the entries and exits into Israeli territory, thereby reducing the chances of terror attacks inside Israeli territory,” an employee of Ya’alon’s office told Ha’aretz.

From December onward, Palestinian workers who enter Israel proper to work in the Greater Tel Aviv area and in the Sharon region must go back home to the West Bank through the Eyal checkpoint.

“The entry and exit of Palestinians who have permits to come to Israel, on a daily basis, will take place through the same crossing point and will enable supervision and control. In this way, the security establishment will be able to have control over those who enter and leave, and prevent a situation in which Palestinians remain in Israel illegally instead of returning to their homes, to the point where there is a danger of terror attacks. This is a mechanism that is supposed to reduce the presence of illegal residents and reduce the risk of terror attacks while allowing Palestinian workers to continue to make a living in Israel. This is something that every sovereign state does to protect itself,” the employee in Ya’alon’s office reportedly said.

“We should remember that in the past, illegal residents perpetrated severe terror attacks inside Israel. It is obvious that Haaretz has an interest in portraying security matters such as these in a distorted and falsified way, but despite that, we must reduce the risk of terror attacks as much as possible without keeping the Palestinian workers from being able to work,” the employee continued, as if Major general Alon hadn’t essentially contradicted him only days before.

Israel’s right-wing praised Ya’alon’s ban in ways that again showed that the issue never was security-related.

“The defense minister and the defense establishment understood the suffering of the residents of Samaria, who lost their public transportation, in essence, and they are working now to provide another solution that will regulate both the transportation of the Palestinian workers and restore public transportation to the Jewish residents and communities of Samaria,” Member of Knesset Moti Yogev of the right-wing Zionist Orthodox HaBayit HaYehudi Party said in a prepared statement.

The chairwoman of the left-wing Meretz Party Member of Knesset Zahava Gal-On condemned both Ya’alon and his ban, expressing what are increasingly common sentiments in Israel’s left and center about Ya’alon – who was snubbed by both the White House and the US State Department on a recent trip to Washington after Ya’alon previously made nasty public remarks about US Secretary of State John Kerry and President Obama.

“Not only has Defense Minister Ya’alon destroyed our relations with the United States; now he is also destroying our relations with the entire democratic world. This is an official, governmental stamp of approval for a policy of apartheid in the territories. Segregation between Palestinians and Jews will only entrench Israel’s status as a pariah state in the world,” Gal-On said.

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I would just put them in the back of the bus in a locked cage.

With Jews like that, who needs anti-Semites?

Whats the problem here ? Its a security matter, arabs are blowing up themselfs , cutting throats , and shooting and throwing fire bombs. Why and who in his right mind would ride a bus together with an arab or muslim? I fully support segregation for security reasons . We forget so fast what happened just last week on ammunition Hill where a three month old baby and 19 years old girl we're murdered in cold blood by a 20 year old arab muslim

You remember the joke that goes: 'how does an Israeli politician commit suicide? He jumps from his ego to his IQ.'
This total buffoon is a classic example of that.
As I've said before, there needs to be a mandatory hiatus of about 10 years in 'normal' life for high ranking military officers before they can become elected members of the knesset.
In a country which barely recognizes normality any more, these mindless unqualified self-serving nobs, who have never done a proper day's work, are dangerous not just for Israel but for the entire Jewish people.
Case in point: every time Yaalon opens his mouth, more crap comes into the world.

Shmaryah,would rather see jewish babies and their mothers blown to smithereens,as long as you don't hurt the feelings of those Arab murderous terrorist animals,Scotty" you know very well this has nothing to do with apartheid,but is simply self preservation,
Has your self loathing and jew hating no limit?,i guess not.
proves once again,leftism is a severe mental disease,and is SUICIDAL

Ya'alon, as Minister of Defence, has also refused to enforce the law to draft Haredim. He has a long history of pandering to the Haredim.

Jack
When are financial system blows up, can we ban Jews from banking? That is your logic. Yelling, Bernankee and Greenspan are going to bring a mess of antisemitism upon our people. Let's just ban Jews from the financial system because some of them are thieves and schemers.

Why are you here?

> . This is an official, governmental stamp of approval for a policy of apartheid in the territories

And yet when the Arabs talk about creating a Palestine where Jews will be forbidden to live we're told that's enlightened.

Fewer goyim, less race mixing, fewer rescues needed of Jewish girls led astray or sexually assaulted. India and Japan (and other countries) have sex-segregated public transport for the same reason.

Jews in Israel recognize the risk to mixed public transport the same as whites in America do. Except in the USA whites (above a certain income level) jut stop riding the bus.

Garnel
The Arabs can talk all they want, but Jews are actually creating places where Arabs can't live. In some places, they are actually taking over their homes and kicking them out.

You wrote:
"Jewish settlers made it clear it was RACIALLY PURE BUSES [my emphasis], not threats of terrorism, that caused them to want to ban the Palestinian workers."

Yet, the explanation given was:
"Riding these buses is unreasonable. They are full of Arabs. We have heard disturbing testimonies from girls who were HARASSED BY ARABS during the bus ride," Yogev said after riding one of the bus lines now covered by Ya'alon's ban. He added that many Jewish settlers AVOID THOSE LINES BECAUSE OF IT."

Whomever knows the reality of these buses can easily testify that this is indeed frequent and you never ever see an arab man defending a jewish girl from another arab man. On the other hand, of course most of the arabs do not harass women and just want to live their lifes and work honestly. And yet, there is this ban...

Shmaryah wrote that the reason is that they want racially pure buses. Sorry, you cannot read and you do not know the facts. The druzes, for example, are excempt from this ban (provided they are israelis). Any foreigner with a valid visa, be him/her from China or Uruguay, from Africa to Russia is good to go.
More than that, there is a reason: The harassment.

We may argue that it is some a sum of the lack of interest/ressources to put cameras and police enforcement to arrest the harassers with some sort of collective punishment because:
01 - The harassment is exclusively done by arabs (and is almost a sure thing if the girl is alone)
02 - Arabs man never ever help the girls been harassed.
03 - Arabs have buses in which is indeed racially pure (that means we as jews cannot enter but also my christian or buddist friend).

In any case, there is no hint whatsoever that the reason behind is to have racially pure buses as the one the arabs do have.

Why are you here?

Posted by: nachos
you sound like a broken record LOL,but seriously isn't this a silly and idiotic question,don't we all click on web sites that we totally disagree with their views,doesn't Shmaryah and most of you troll the frum web sites day and night just to see and read what the enemy has to say,
Haven't most of us at one time or another read Hitlers Mein Kampf,even though we all vehemently disagree and are disgusted with it's obscene ideology,well then this is the reason i am here,and in a way this self hating antisemitic site is even more fascinating than reading Mein Kampf,because it is written by our own self hating jews,and some of them even formerly religious ones

Jack
Thank you for finally answering the question that was asked you at least 100 times.

Why do you believe that exposing child molesters, racists and cowards within the Jewish community make us self hat Jews?

The cowards that won't defend the nation of Israel are the real self hating Jews. I don't ever see you condemn Edah Hariet as being self hating Jews.

When the Arabs do attack, they will sell their lives cheaply because they lack military training.

If you don't like the methods of this site, when will you speak out in your own community about the stealing and molesting that is kept silent. Maybe you are just a coward.

Shmarya has the balls to expose this stuff. Where are your balls? Have they been lost in your mom's basement?

I am not allowed to go to shul anymore, because I spoke out. If Shalom had taken me seriously, maybe he might not be in prison right now. Do you have the balls to tell one of your kinsman to stop their evil conduct? No. You just criticize those that do.
People like you are the reasons why Nazi's were able to gain so much power. You are such a coward, that I have no doubt that you would have been a capo in the camps.

Nachos.
I have written numerous times,that we have nothing against Shmaryah exposing chareidi criminality and coruption,as a matter of fact we should thank him and support him,but you know full well that this site is not only about those issues,it has willingly or unwillingly morphed into a disgusting anti frum and anti religious racist hate site,where frum jews and their religion are denigrated and insulted and made fun off,and please don't try to deny it because we all know it is so,we even have postings that frum jews need to be neutered.
Nachos,would Shmaryah dare have the exact same blog,and just substitute blacks instead of frum jews?,of course not.
As far as the chareidi cowards in Israel who don't work and don't share in the burden of defending their own country,i have posted quiet a few times my views on them,and you can look it up,in my view there is absolutely no excuse for it they are nothing but traitors who should be dealt harshly by the government,be given long prison sentences or deported to their friends in Gaza

Is there an alternate bus line that caters to Palestinian riders into Israel? Is this like Plessy v. Ferguson in the 1895 US Supreme Court decision, or worse?

I am not allowed to go to shul anymore, because I spoke out.
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Nachos,just curious what kind of Shul would ban someone for just speaking out ?.
if you happen to live in Brooklyn,you'll always be welcome in our shul no matter what

Jack
As I have told you before, I live near Postville. Options are limited Don't worry , I raise pigs now to keep you away. My children have joined the church since that was the only option open to them. Why would I want to pray in the same room with Raices and Zimmerman.

Don't go nachos! They genuflect there!

Dh:

My children have been brought up as goyim and that is something I will never forgive the Postville crowd for. Maybe some Chabadnick can make up little rebbe jewelry with the rebbe on a respirator. That is how their messiah died.
Jack
Can we both agree that the rebbe is dead and not the messiah. Do you have the courage to admit that?

Jack:
Why shouldn't some frum Jews get neutered. Do you think it is right for any man to have more children than they can afford to support. Why should the goyim have to support our children?

It can't be that Arabs are threats to Israelis when they are cleared for employment. Like the following case (http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/09/30/police-suspect-israeli-worker-who-fell-from-building-was-murdered-by-arab/) where the arab co workers severed the cord of an israeli rappeller causing him to be thrown to his death. That must have been work place violence that was unrelated to terrorism. I'm sure of that.

Why shouldn't some frum Jews get neutered. Do you think it is right for any man to have more children than they can afford to support. Why should the goyim have to support our children?
nachos.
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would you say the same thing about "blacks" hispanics' native americans' poor Appalachian whites"gypsies,etc.etc.?.
after all chareidim just make up i millionth of a percentage point to all these folks living off welfare.
not expecting an honest answer LOL

Jack
I would support access to birth control for everyone. Would your Rabbi?

. . . how will we ever be able to deescalate from this ill conceived and ever conjuring Terror mantra? . . . it so feeds the fear driven psyche. Doesn't terror require some form of organized ensemble gathering! I cringe every time i hear some one utter that word!

Jack:
Thanks for making us equal with everyone. We are supposed to lead and set an example and you just want to give up that mandate that God has given us.

Tell me, is it OK to jump off a roof, because your friends did it. You sound like an eight year old.

Ok Nachos,at least you backed off your racist rant about neutering Jews,for your information most religious Jews do practice birth control,it is only the extreme hasidic and yeshivish ones who don't

Jack
I beg to differ with you about religious Jews practicing birth control. OK. I have changed my mind. I will settle for neutering only the extreme hasidics. If anyone needs neutering, I have all the tools here.

On a side note, do you know why most cattle don't kosher. After we neuter them, we implant them with female hormones. I proved this to Shalom by looking at statistics from 20,000 head of cattle.

Jack:
A. I'm not sure if that's true.
B. why are you normative and if someone is yeshivish or chassidish he's extreme? I bet you that there are billions of people on the planet that believe that you are extreme for adhering to yiddishkeit. Crack open a Chumash and you will see that G-d isn't mainstream. Nuff said.

Jack
Can I have a bone also!
I promise to only piss in front of your house!

Jack
Can we both agree that the rebbe is dead and not the messiah. Do you have the courage to admit that?

Nachos,are you so naive or ill informed?,what makes you think that every frum person is a chabadnick,
i guess living in Potsville you wouldn't know better,
well let me inform you,99.99% of from jews have nothing to do with lubavitch,and that includes me,
and as a matter of fact most lubavitchers are embarrased from those messianic crazies who claim the rebbe never died

Jack
Can I have a bone also!
I promise to only piss in front of your house!
Posted by: nachos'
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what the heck? now you are ranting like a raving lunatic,please go take your medicines,LOL

Jack:
Yet when was the last time that you had the balls to criticize them.
You accept them and their theology as being frum Jews when they are not.
Sometimes, I come into contact with a really nice Chabad Rabbi named Rabbi Samuels. He nudges me to put on tefillin. How can I when I believe what I believe about Chabad.

Jack
I might need to get my gun out soon. As I am typing a 30 lb piglet just showed up on my porch to eat my dogs food. At least he wasn't looking for a donation

Nachos, you're wasting your time. I agree with Rebitzman. A policy of not feeding the trolls is the best course of action.

Nachos/Jeff - especially those that aren't even Jewish and are just here to hurl poo........

Another Haaretz headline (from May 27, 2014): "A Palestinian Bantustan won’t end the conflict" The author of the article was Daniel Levy, not an Arab. Bantustans were tribal homelands created by South Africa in the early 1960's during the apartheid era.

Israel is going to have a hard time maintaining the status quo, given its rapidly growing Haredi population. Even in the US, support for the country is not as strong as it used to be. Netanyahu and the settler movement have been not been good for the country's image abroad.


My children have joined the church since that was the only option open to them. Why would I want to pray in the same room with Raices and Zimmerman.

Posted by: nachos | October 27, 2014 at 10:31 AM
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your own children are worshiping a dead jew born out of wedlock and considering him God,and you have a problem with lubavichers worshiping a dead rabbi and considering him only a messiah,let me ask you Nochas,which is more ridiculous? LOL

My children have joined the church since that was the only option open to them. Why would I want to pray in the same room with Raices and Zimmerman.

Posted by: nachos | October 27, 2014 at 10:31 AM
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"your own children are worshiping a dead jew born out of wedlock and considering him God,and you have a problem with lubavichers worshiping a dead rabbi and considering him only a messiah,let me ask you Nochas,which is more ridiculous? LOL" Absolutely awesome response. lmao

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