Video: Deputy Knesset Speaker Advocates Forced Transfer Of Gaza Arabs On CNN

On CNN, Deputy Knesset Speaker MK Moshe Feiglin of the Likud Party advocated expelling all Gaza Palestinians who refuse to swear a loyalty oath to Israel – arguably a war crime.

 

On CNN, Deputy Knesset Speaker MK Moshe Feiglin of the Likud Party advocated expelling all Gaza Palestinians who refuse to swear a loyalty oath to Israel – arguably a war crime, whether he and his supporters realize it or not. You can't simply forcibly transfer-expel every Gazan who refuses to pledge loyalty to Israel.

(This is the Feiglin CNN appearance I referred to Tuesday night.)

Israel was given a tremendous gift – the open anti-Semitism of the Hamas spokesman broadcast on TV for the whole world to see.

But that gift was made exponentially smaller by what Feiglin wrote and by his appearance on CNN.

And I'm afraid that will become very clear unless the coalition removes Feiglin (who, by the way, is Orthodox) from his position as Deputy Speaker of the Knesset:

 

Comments

[Adam Paul]

Shmarya --

Why do you insist on distorting news?

Feiglin did not "advocate expelling all Gaza Palestinians who refuse to sign a loyalty oath to Israel," as you falsely claim. He clearly states that the Arabs should be given three options: if they take up arms against Israel, they should be killed. If they choose to emigrate, they should be given every financial incentive to do so. And if they choose to stay, they can stay.

Although he did say that those who stay should be required to sign a pledge of loyalty, he did not *condition* their staying on signing such a pledge. Big difference, which you deliberately distort.

Feiglin's plan is obviously irrational, impossible, and makes Israel look bad and extremist. But you make it look far worse with your irresponsible, and incorrect, summation of the story.

[Shmarya]

Oh, please. Stop your BS. He said that those who stay have to sign a loyalty oath, not that they have an option to do so.

[Megalomaniac Watch]

The State of Israel had better their act together. They have got to have all their scripts approved by Shmarya and make sure there are no Orthodox Jews in cabinet level positions. Who do they think they are to not cater to Shmarya's every whim, beck & call ?

[Adam Paul]

To clarify: it should be noted that the claim that Feiglin would require a pledge-of-loyalty was raised by Blitzer, but NOT affirmed by Feiglin. It's impossible to corroborate whether Feiglin's letter actually said that, because it's been taken off his Facebook page. You, Shmarya, are usually good about providing links to or pictures of written statements that form the basis of your articles. You didn't this time. You should have.

[Wut? Wut?]

"Oh, please. Stop your BS. He said that those who stay have to sign a loyalty oath, not that they have an option to do so."

Oh? like the oath that all US immigrants have to take when they become citizens?
INA 337(a). See 8 CFR 337.1(a).

[Barry 1]

Your approach is so way off base. Feiglin's advocating giving Gaza residents an alternative, temporary place to stay, out of harms way.

Blitzer kept blitzing him to prevent him from fully making his point and twisted the rational behind the plan.

Feiglin advocated Israel taking back control of Gaza and at the same time, said that a high % of Arabs want to leave and that Israel should help them do so. The rest, who want to stay, if they pledge loyalty to Israel, would become citizens with all the rights of everyone else.

[Garnel Ironheart]

First, Feiglin is a loose cannon with a very small, if rapid following.
Secondly, why are you not running a story about how the number of Arabs in 'Aza being killed by their fellow Arabs for collaboration is rapidly entering the 100's instead of worrying about threats that will never come to fruition?

[WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed]

Garnel, do you have a reference? Would like to post it to Facebook and other sites. Thanks.

[Elliot]

Per his column in the Jewish Press:

"According to polls, most of the Arabs in Gaza wish to leave. Those not involved in anti-Israel activity would be offered a generous international emigration package. Those choosing to remain would receive permanent resident status. After living in Israel for a number of years and becoming accustomed to the country, and contingent on appropriate Knesset legislation and the approval of the interior minister, those who accept the legitimacy of Israel’s rule and recognize Israel as a sovereign Jewish state – with all of its Jewish characteristics – will be offered Israeli citizenship."

Needless to say, I'd imagine that he would want to get rid of as many as possible. Regardless of the citizenship aspect, which I believe he is trying to make unpalatable for Arabs, he clearly wants to claim Gaza for Israel.

[Megalomaniac Watch]

Peons!

Master Shmarya has obviously decided that Hamas butchering 100s of suspected collaborators is irrelevant. Who are you to deviate from the mission of ganging up on Feiglin only?

You are forbidden from mentioning anything else. Not Assad killing much of his own citizenry, not ISIS genocide against Assyrian Christians & the Yazidi sect.

Only Jews may be criticized, preferably if they are orthodox.

[Col Kurtz]

Druze are an example of Arabs that serve the state and army. Israel should support those clans/tribes that are like minded. Make the others submit. Isn't that what Islam is all about, submission?

http://www.palestinianemirates.com/Summary.html

[Col Kurtz]

Palestinian Emirates - Eighteen Point Executive Summary

The only true loyalty of the Middle Eastern Arabs is to family, clan and tribe and the local sheikhs who are their only true leaders.

There is little trust that currently exists between people of the different tribes in the Arab Palestinian cities of Judea, Samaria and Gaza
.
Any PLO/PA led government of a Palestinian state would most likely become another corrup and failed Arab state just like Syria, Iraq and Libya.

If a Palestinian state is established, Hamas would soon seize control in Judea & Samaria (often referred to as the "West Bank") from the weak and corrupt PLO/PA/Fatah.

Israel would be faced on two borders by Hamas whose Charter openly calls for the destruction of the Jewish Homeland and the killing of Jews worldwide.

The PLO/PA/Fatah and Hamas are not reliable negotiating partners for peace.

The Two State Solution was already achieved in 2007 when Hamas established its state in the Gaza strip.

Israel should take the lead to find a workable solution in light of the November 2012 UN vote which did not confer actual statehood to the Palestinians.

As tribal leaders, the individual sheikhs may want their independence from the PLO/PA to chart their own destiny of peace and prosperity.

Israel should recognize the development of independent city-states, aka emirates, in seven cities of Judea & Sumaria, which would likely occur over a period of a few years.

Each of the seven city-states in Judea & Samaria will be based socially on the local group of clans. Altogether there would be emirates in the seven non-contiguous emirates in the cities of Jenin, Nablus, Ramallah, Jericho, Tul-Karm, Kalkilya, and the Arab part of Hebron. This is in addition to the emirate already established in the Hamas-led Gaza strip.

Local residents would become citizens of these eight independent emirates while those remaining in the rural areas will have the choice to become citizens of Israel.

The Palestinian refugee problem can only be solved only in the Muslim Arab states, not in the Jewish State of Israel .

As these independent Arab Palestinian emirates develop, they may choose to form a beneficial alliance together to increase security, economic development and other aspects of common interest.

The leaders of these emerging emirates are more likely to accept Israel as the Jewish Homeland and root out terrorist and jihadist elements within their secure borders .

Israel would absorb and control the less populated areas of Judea & Samaria to enhance security and development for the region.

The PLO/PA leadership will eventually disappear from Judea & Samaria once the emirate movement takes root.

Since being liberated in 1967 after a 19-year Jordanian occupation, Jerusalem will remain as the undivided capital of the Jewish nation which welcomes peaceful visitors of all faiths from all over the world to come and pray at their holy sites.

[Col Kurtz]

"I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream; that's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving. " Col Walter E. Kurtz, 1979

[SimoneF]

And here's Garnel Ironheart with his usual diversion. Right on cue!

[Yosef]

Mr Feiglin's plan, is a novel departure from the failed naïve Oslo Peace Process.

It offers an untried vision and solution to the conflict WITHOUT GENOCIDE. Please understand the contrasting visions of Peace. The "moderate" PA wants a Judenrein (Jew free) West Bank which is blatenly racist and discriminatory. The Hamas (branch of the Muslim Brotherhood) wants a Judenrein Israel. The ultraislamist IS wants a Judenrein world! HAMAS stands for Hiding Among Mosques and Schoolchildren

Gazan Muslims (and "Palestinians") have been irrationally and irresponsibly pampered, subsidized, entitled, and miseducated by US taxpayers and UNRWA (highest per capita subsidies in the world) while Iran and Qatar finance military training and terroristic infrastructures of rockets and invasion tunnels. The UN prevents the conflict from being resolved and wants Israel to disappear. Unless these aggressive policies stops, war and terror goes on, worsens, and metastasizes: a spreading malignant Islamic terror.

With all the billions they have received, Gazan Muslims could have built an international tourist paradise and solid economy on the Med Sea but instead build invasion tunnels and rocket launch bunkers.

The State of Israel in 2005 carried out a controversial Disengagement by uprooting over 10,000 Jews from the Gush Katif in Gaza and falsely promising this would bring peace by ending "colonization" and "occupation". Instead the Progressive-demanded Disengagement brought trauma, war and terror. The intact greenhouses that grew nutritious foods were smashed by Gazan Muslims rather than continue to be used for growing organic hydroponic salad vegetables year round. What a tragic policy blunder.

Religious Muslims always seem to have anger and grievances against Israel and non Muslims and too often choose destruction and violence.

Mr Feiglin's written letter and interview snippet provides a way to end the current intolerable situation by giving its Arabs 3 choices, including that of a subsidized better life and less restrictions. The Arabs who are peacefully inclined can remain. The hostile ones can't. In contrast Islamic law mandates non Muslims have these 3 choices: submit/convert, be executed, or pay a 17% jizya tax every year (so as to allowed to live and not convert).

For 1400 years, Islam has been successfully expanding by waging aggression against its non Islamic neighbors by the sword. Today it is by missiles and asymmetric warfare. This is the context of Hamas and Mr Feiglin's plan to stop Hamas' aggression. Even if you disagree with Mr Feiglin's as I do, his policy statements are clear, concise, well-written, and should be read in full and only then argued with and rebutted. I hope the editor of this blog will provide a link

[Shmarya]

Adam Paul –

Please. I provided the VIDEO in which Feiglin speaks, and what I reported is accurate.

You can twist and turn and tie yourself into as many knots as you want in order to find a way to kasher what Feiglin holds, but you won't change the truth.

[MiggoWagga]

Rabbi Meir Kahane advocated this, and before you go jumping all over me, let me say that Rabbi Kahane was nowhere near as extreme as people make him out to be. One point of his plan was to limit citizenship to Jews only, and of course that's stupid. But the rest of his plan was as follows:
1. Every Arab who desires to leave Israel gets full monetary compensation for all lost property and a cash bonus to start life in new countries and for some of them, vocational training for skilled jobs in other countries that need such skilled people.
2. Every Arab who desires to stay must swear an oath of absolute loyalty to Israel as a Jewish state. If they agree to it they may stay. If they refuse, they will be given monetary compensation for all lost property, but no cash bonus and no training, and will be sent only to an Arab country.
3. Every Arab who has sworn the oath but still collaborates with Israel's enemies will be expelled to an Arab country without any compensation for anything.

It was a perfectly sensible plan, but the Israeli government banned his party from the government,wouldn't let him get his points across, and at the same time allowed anti-Zionist Arab parties. Typical Jewish self-destructiveness--the kikes.

[Elliot]

And what about the Jews who refuse to swear an oath of loyalty to the State of Israel? Where do we send them? Hungary? Russia?

[Humble guest]

Do you think with all the billions of dollars being sent to Israel and having
the greatest military technology in the world, do you think maybe Netenyahu could
pinpoint those Hamas terrorists? Of course, he can. There is no need for the
targeting of civilians. Israel wants the land. Period. If Israel takes heat from the world community about this, good. It has served to slow down the targeting of civilians, as it should.

If we had more leaders with integrity standing up, they would put an end to the BS on both sides and not be afraid of that age old weapon Israel (and others) use of being anti-Semitic, when people simply do not agree with them. I want Israel's existence, but ignoring truths frustrates the hell out of people and that contributes to a scenario for war.

Shamraya, you do the world a service. By exposing the BS on any topic, you do the world a service. People must think of the ramifications of their actions. There is nothing anti-Semitic about voicing the utter sorrow and despair of seeing children and people on either side of this conflict killed. Gaza is out-gunned and out-financed and there is no proportionality to this battle. That is why the world community is expressing outrage. It has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. If it was another country other than Israel doing the same thing, the world community would be expressing the same outrage, and it has. I disagree that it promotes anti-Semitism, but does exactly the opposite, protects us from anti-Semitic hatred. The accusation of being anti-Semitic should not be thrown around irresponsibly. Otherwise, all it says, is "you are NOT ALLOWED to disagree." I think it does insidious harm and the person who knowingly accuses someone of being-anti-Semitic for their own selfish gain when they know it is not REAL anti-Semitism, is as destructive and hateful as anyone who bears true anti-Semitic hatred. We all have to take responsibility.

[Allan]

“Gaza is out-gunned and out-financed and there is no proportionality to this battle.”

OK. So please name any country that always fights “proportional battles” after which Israel can model itself. I’m very interested to see this list.

And where was the fair “proportionality” when Israel was simultaneously attacked by no less than five Arab countries the moment it declared independence? I guess “proportionality in battle” isn’t a problem when it is Israel that finds itself outgunned and having to fight for its life. Nobody then said “Be fair Arabs! Only one army at a time please!”

“Israel want the land. Period.

Perhaps you were in a coma ten years ago and missed the news that Israel HAD the land ten years ago and turned it over to the Palestinians. Israel then forcefully evicted its own people from Gaza! It’s incredible that after this unheard of act of surrendering territory, there are still people who can say with a straight face “Israel wants the land.”

[wirbelwind]

In her biography of her husband, Libby Kahane refers to her best friend from the 1950s, Shoshana Talansky. The latter is in fact the sister of Morris Talansky. Olmert who is entering his cell next month for 6 years because of the Talansky Affair.

Some might call it poetic justice 26 years on, for the banning of Rabbi Meir Kahane's Kach party from the 1988 election on grounds of "racism", which came about beacuse of the uniting of the legal eagle talents of the strange bedfellows of then quite right-wing Likud lawyer Ehud Olmert and the left-wing assistant State Attorney Dorit Beinish (later the Supreme Court President), out of dread of a Kahane in the Knesset with 12 seats.

The entire Kach Party manifesto was in fact lifted straight from out of the Tenach!

[singlemalt]

"Do you think with all the billions of dollars being sent to Israel and having
the greatest military technology in the world, do you think maybe Netenyahu could
pinpoint those Hamas terrorists? Of course, he can. There is no need for the
targeting of civilians." Posted by: Humble guest | August 07, 2014 at 02:09 PM

Mr Guest: Israel does target Hamas Terrorists and they do not target civilians. In gaza the terrorists operate out of or near civilian homes, schools, mosques, hotels and hospitals. They encourage children to play in areas that Israel has specifically announced it would attack. Hamas uses children to dig it's terror tunnels and many have died while doing so. Hamas uses international and Israeli aid (that is earmarked for the civilians of Gaza) to build terror tunnels and finance its terrorist activities.

[singlemalt]

Mr. Guest perhaps you didn't see this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE3feo_b8Cg#t=53

[singlemalt]

or this one http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4556016,00.html

[Just Curious]

Garnel --

Why haven't you provided any kind of reference about the killing of "collaborators" in Gaza, as requested above?

Like WSC, I would very interested to read about that.