Who Murdered 16-Year-Old Mohammed Abu Khdeir? More And More, It Looks Like Right Wing Jews Did

Israeli right wingers have spread rumors about the circumstances of the murder, mainly having to do with “honor killings” or family feuds. Attempts were even made to forge official announcements to this effect, in order to lend them additional credence.

Above: Mohammed Abu Khdeir

Who murdered 16-year-old Mohammed Abu Khdeir?

We still don’t know the answer to that question, but according to a report by Nir Hasson in Ha’aretz, it looks more and more like the murderers are Jews:

…At 4 A.M. on Wednesday, [Mohammed Abu Khdeir] was on his way to the mosque, on foot.…

Two young men approached Khdeir, very near to the mosque, spoke to him and then persuaded or shoved him into a car driven by a third man. The police have quite a lot of information about the incident.

The car then traveled at great speed in the direction of French Hill, ran a red light and continued to speed toward the Jerusalem Forest. According to Google Maps, when the roads are clear it takes just 12 minutes to drive from the mosque in Shoafat to the place where Abu Khdeir’s body was dumped. The teen’s family notified police immediately, who traced his phone and found his burnt body about an hour later.…

Israeli right wingers have spread various and sundry rumors about the circumstances of the murder, mainly having to do with “honor killings” or family feuds. Attempts were even made to forge official announcements to this effect, in order to lend them additional credence.

From this writer’s perspective, the police honestly doesn’t know who is responsible and what their motives were. But the process of elimination is increasingly pointing away from criminal motivations and toward nationalistic [i.e., Jews did it] ones. Palestinian sources say the family is relatively secular and relatively comfortable financially, and that there’s no evidence of disagreements with other families. Anyone familiar with such feuds knows that the attacking side generally targets an important figure from the other side, generally a young man. Killing a 16-year-old boy doesn’t fit that pattern.

In addition, such murders are carried out in broad daylight, on the street, in order to make a statement. Abduction using a vehicle, driving across town and burning the body doesn’t fit the pattern. The police believe that after at least a day of interviewing eyewitnesses, the boy’s parents and other witnesses, if there were a criminal or family-related motive it would have emerged by now.…

Comments

[put a square into a hole]

Kill them all...
A good arab is a DEAD one.
Every jew a 22.

[grammar police]

^please remove that comment

[Ron]

Having power means taking responsibility for all the lives under your rule and it might be that we are not ready for that. It seems that we Jews do not deserve a state. Maybe Satmar and Naturei Karta are right, after all.

[this is a name]

plz the score isn't even matched yet. its +3 kids for the arabs and only +1 kids for the jews.

remember, mishtara were too sissy to come help when they were called.

[Garnel Ironheart]

> We still don’t know the answer to that question

But that hasn't stopped you from being judge, jury and executioner. And when it turns out the kid really was a victim of inter-Arab fighting or an honour killing will you publish a mea culpa?

[Milhouse]

"Maybe Satmar and Naturei Karta are right, after all."

Come one Ron. Are you serious?

[D]

Palestinian sources say the family is relatively secular
At 4 A.M. on Wednesday, [Mohammed Abu Khdeir] was on his way to the mosque, on foot.…

a secular moderate

[SimoneF]

It's fine for "this is a name" and "put a square into a hole" (sic) to post their racist calls for murder here.

It helps the world, and particularly other Jews, to see that, just as the Palestinians have theirs, we have ours too. And that whatever the percentages may be, Zionism doesn't inherently occupy any sort of moral high ground.

[Lubavitchers Are Christians]

Its a tragedy when an innocent child is murdered, Arab or Jew.

When the murderer is found, will you be happier if he was found to be an Arab or a Jew?

I would be happier if it turns out to be an Arab.

Shmarya would be happier if it turns out to be a "right-wing" Jew.

And that says it all.

[avi]

Wait. by 'process of elimination", the biased-against-right-wingers writer figures it was Jews? any "evidence"?

as lionel hutz said, "well your honor, we have plenty of hear-say and conjecture. those are kinda evidence..."

[Friar Yid]

"Kill them all...
A good arab is a DEAD one.
Every jew a 22."

Tell you what, I'll trade you my imaginary JDL-issued .22 in exchange for you never calling yourself a Jew in public again. Deal?

[Eliwexler]

Let's be honest shmarya. Your hoping they find out that it was Israelis that killed the boy.. Even better... Some chareidim

[Robert J. Barron, Attorney-at-Law]

@Lubavitchers are Christians----> Its a tragedy when an innocent child is murdered, Arab or Jew.

When the murderer is found, will you be happier if he was found to be an Arab or a Jew?

If my father was alive, he would be saying the very same thing.

He had no love whatsoever for Palestinians, Arabs, what-have-you; actually, he didn't really like people who weren't similar to him- but he knew about the value of life- any life and all life.

[AE]

Was this article on Haaretz oped page? Police have no idea but that doesn't stop the reporter from pure speculation.

[Shmarya]

AE –

It's clearly a regular news article, not an op-ed.

And you can see that most of the claims used to indicate it was an honor killing have proved false, and many were made up by the right wing out of whole cloth.

[Shmarya]

LAC –

I report news.

If the murderers are Arab or Jewish isn't directly the issue for me, except that I primarily cover haredi, Orthodox and right-wing (primarily Israeli) Jewish crime and misbehavior. So if the murderers are Jews, that would be a story I'd likely extensively cover.

And I find extremism and some fundamentalism troubling and dangerous, and I think that danger needs to be exposed.

But I don't have to work too hard to do that. You, put a square into a hole, and people like you do that for me every day just by opening your virtual mouths.

[D]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10943882/Revealed-CCTV-shows-moment-Palestinian-boy-is-kidnapped-before-being-killed.html

1. Sounds like he was hanging out and not on his way to prayers.
2. Didn't his relatives or whoever say it was a dark colored car??

[A. Nuran]

put a square into a hole opened his anterior anus and excreted:

"Kill them all...
A good arab is a DEAD one.
Every jew a 22."

----------------------
You know, someone else thought a lot like you do:

“...the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew.”

“How many diseases have their origin in the Jewish virus! ... We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew.”

“If only one country, for whatever reason, tolerates a Jewish family in it, that family will become the germ center for fresh sedition.”

[AE]

How have the honor killing claims been proven false? All I've seen so far is speculative from both sides.

[this is a name]

here is some of the nice things hamas' charter has to say-

- “In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate You are the best community that has been raised up for mankind. Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah. And if the People of the Scripture had believed, it had been better for them. Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-doers.

- As the Movement adopts Islam as its way of life, its time dimension extends back as far as the birth of the Islamic Message and of the Righteous Ancestor. Its ultimate goal is Islam, the Prophet its model, the Qur’an its Constitution.

- By virtue of the distribution of Muslims, who pursue the cause of the Hamas, all over the globe, and strive for its victory, for the reinforcement of its positions and for the encouragement of its Jihad, the Movement is a universal one.

- The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine has been an Islamic Waqf throughout the generations and until the Day of Resurrection, no one can renounce it or part of it, or abandon it or part of it. No Arab country nor the aggregate of all Arab countries, and no Arab King or President nor all of them in the aggregate, have that right, nor has that right any organization or the aggregate of all organizations, be they Palestinian or Arab, because Palestine is an Islamic Waqf throughout all generations and to the Day of Resurrection.

-Hamas regards Nationalism (Wataniyya) as part and parcel of the religious faith. Nothing is loftier or deeper in Nationalism than waging Jihad against the enemy and confronting him when he sets foot on the land of the Muslims.

- the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion

- When our enemies usurp some Islamic lands, Jihad becomes a duty binding on all Muslims. In order to face the usurpation of Palestine by the Jews, we have no escape from raising the banner of Jihad.

all that crap is straight from hamas' charter freely available on the internet. ji-had enough yet?

[Shmarya]

AE –

Please.

Ha'aretz is REPORTING that most of those claims are false and intentionally fabricated by the right wing activists, who even went to the extent of forging government documents to back them up.

Process that.

[SimoneF]

"this is a name" - so Hamas is your moral benchmark and you advocate the same kind of thing.

What I've had enough of is that there's garbage like you among our own people too. I can't do a lot about Hamas, but I can make very certain that garbage like you is rooted out of my shul and the Jewish community and exposed for the immoral and anti-Jewish filth that it is.

[Jewish Cynic]

SimoneF wrote:

"It helps the world, and particularly other Jews, to see that, just as the Palestinians have theirs, we have ours too. And that whatever the percentages may be, Zionism doesn't inherently occupy any sort of moral high ground."

Simone,
The "moral ground" of Zionism is not the question here.
The Zionist movement led to the State of Israel. It's Israel and the Palestinians that are in conflict.
The behavior of the Israeli state vs the behavior of the Palestinian authorities does matter.
That there are some people in Israel capable of acts of violence against innocents does not mean Israel and the body of the Israeli population is the same as that of the Palestinians who have lauded the killers of innocent Israelis (Jews).
I see no reports of Jews dancing in the streets of Jerusalem and handing out candies when the murder of the Palestinian boy was announced.

The murder of this Palestinian boy, if done by Jews, is an anomaly.
It is very troubling that some Jews may have become so radicalized/frustrated/nuts that they killed an innocent boy.
And I believe the vast majority of the Jewish Israeli population are troubled by it and support the Israeli government's effort to find and prosecute the killers.

Frankly the same cannot be said of the Palestinians who are taught from birth to hate Jews and work toward their subjugation and destruction.

If we really want a peace that will better the lives of Palestinians and Israelis we cannot say "one side is no better than the other" and continue to overlook the hate creation of the Palestinians.
We don't overlook the hateful crimes of some Jews against Palestinians.
Palestinians need to be held to the same standard.

[MiggoWagga]

For as long as Israel has no death penalty, things like this continue. Israel is responsible for all of these problems, because it refuses to execute terrorists. Had terrorists been put to death as should be the case, it is very possible that Gilad Shalit would not have been taken prisoner, because there would have been no terrorists around to trade for him. Hamas would not have attempted to take Gilad Shalit to use him as an exchange for their own terrorists, because all the terrorists would have been dead.

However, trading the terrorists for Gilad Shalit was the right thing to do. Why? Because Gilad Shalit should not have to be the one to pay the price for Israel's stupidity in not executing terrorists. So it was right to trade the terrorists to get him back.

And then some of these terrorists went and kidnapped and then killed Eyal Yifrach, Naftali Frenkel, and Gilad Shaer. Had Israel executed the terrorists, Gilad Shalit would not have been kidnapped, and the terrorists would not have been released to free him, and then Eyal Yifrach, Naftali Frenkel, and Gilad Shaer would all still be with us today.
By extension, there would have been no revenge action, with the result that Muhammed Abu Khdeir would still be with us today.

The blood of Eyal Yifrach, Naftali Frenkel, Gilad Shaer, and Muhammed Abu Khdeir is not only on the heads of the Palestinians, but also on the head of Israel. Israel acted recklessly in endangering the lives of these four kids, because Israel does not execute terrorists.

The time has come for the Jews to start acting like proud Israelites and not like a bunch of weak, wussy, whipped little KIKES!

[Dave]

Shmarya, what happened in your life that you became such a douche bag, people who are miserable don't live very long, and from the looks of you your health can't be to good either

[SimoneF]

Yeah Dave, that's all you've got, personal insults. Pathetic.

[this is a name]

SimoneF, go explain the rules of war to hamas and see how long you last over there. lol even the united states firebombed civilian targets in Dresden to give the Nazis a lesson in the pain they were causing.

it's about time Israel adapts a policy of if you can't take civilian causalities, don't dish it out yourself. it is about fucking time.

IF YOU CAN'T TAKE IT, DON'T DISH IT.

[this is a name]

* casualties

[this is a name]

Simone is too chicken to go to PLO HQ and lecture them on Rules of War Simone knows s/he'll get killed over there lol and yet is too much of a stiff liberal to call them the savages that they are.

[Barry 1]

HaAretz is a left wing rag with an agenda. Facts are showing the likelihood that Arabs did it. Jews don't burn people alive, not even our enemies. All they are doing is faming the flames before the investigation is concluded. Will they report the truth when it comes out? Will the rest of the world?