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May 05, 2014

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Robert J. Barron, Attorney-at-Law

@WSC -----> I don't think that a restraining order would require her to be fingerprinted. I don't know if it would require a Court Appearance either; but then again, I don't encounter them in my practice. And I don't know if it would prevent her from purchasing a firearm.

Awhile back (I forget the year) a Federal Judge in (I think) Illinois came home to find both her husband and mother murdered by a disgruntled defendant (and I think it was a defendant in a Civil Case.) I'm assuming that ever since then the security measures concerning Judges that were already in placed were probably ramped up.

I would be very, very surprised (as I stated above) if the US Marshal's office, and/or the FBI had not already looked into this, and decided that she was a low-risk threat. Because I am pretty sure that a threat against a Judge (just like a threat against an elected official) is a felony under the US Code.

I do know that there are metal detectors, etc, in every Federal Courthouse. And if you have a laptop, they make you take it out and turn it on.

And most Federal Courthouses have US Marshal's offices right in them. (Usually in the basement...LOL)

Again....just another poor, deluded haredi.

WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed

At the very least, a Restraining Order should be issued to her to keep away from Judge Reade. The restraining order, I believe, would require a court appearance, fingerprinting, and a record kept of her, as well as prohibiting her from purchasing a gun.
Of course, a psychopathic religious fanatic (that's my girl) would not let such legalities get in the way of her carrying out God's will, but at least the authorities will be aware of her.

Alter Kocker

Jimmy
How many mentally deranged individuals have assassinated presidents and celebrities. These are the people that need to be detained and jailed or consigned to a mental facility. I cannot and will not subscibe to the notion that mental illness absolves the authorities from ensuring the safety of the public. Yes she is mentally deranged, but, think of her deciding that Hashem is not moving fast enough. In her state of mind, what would keep her from attempting violence on Judge Reade or her family?

Jeff

"Even the most rabidly anti hareidi readers of this blog, such as Jeff, realize that this letter was written by someone with mental issues, yet you want them 'thrown in prison'?"

I want you thrown in a psych ward.

WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed

While I agree that she didn't quite cross the line with a direct physical threat, you've got to admit that it takes a certain degree of psychopathology to write such a letter to a federal judge.

Once a very religious person states that God wants a federal judge dead, is it a big stretch to consider that she just might decide to take this to the next level, all with her belief that God is on her side?

It's a safe bet that the FBI will be keeping an eye on this person.

jimmy

"Have this disgusting excuse for a human arrested and thrown into prison for threats to a member of the judiciary. F**king nerve."

Hey Alter Kocker,
Even the most rabidly anti hareidi readers of this blog, such as Jeff, realize that this letter was written by someone with mental issues, yet you want them "thrown in prison"?
Even the F.B.I has apparently realized that.
You and Janci are the two retarded clowns....

Shmarya

Rebitzman – That is Yated Ne'eman's article reprinted by YW.

And you know Yated Ne'eman's nickname for decades already has been Pravda Ne'eman.

Jeff

You dodged a bullet there, WSC!

"And I think Jeff is directly on point (as usual) with his statements, esp. about BT's having some sort of psychiatric issue. I know that is/was certainly the case for my family members who became haredi/frum. 'Lost, lonely, and unbalanced' applied to them, sadly enough."

If the Jewish community at large (that is, the non-crazy sectors) were reaching out to people in various states of material and emotional need, those people wouldn't have to resort to cults to make them feel wanted and give them a sense of belonging - but of course, that would entail paying attention to people who don't have the means to write a check for a new gymnasium. We can't have that!

The American Jewish community, quite simply, sucks.

WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed

OH MY GOD, I knew this chick and dated her before she became religious.
Very, very easy to see why she became a BT.

m

how foolish to write a letter of that nature to judge linda reade . those kind of letters will turn against sholom rubashkin , more letters, more rejections , longer the felon will stay stuck in jail. all these letters and documents will be presented for consideration to allow a trial , before trial and subjected of review during the trial . another failure is to be expected , bc sholom rubashkin's family , sympathisers , lawyers and some political figures push it so much that it will end up failing .

too much is too much , not real = not to be accepted . judges will be fed up .

rebitzman - $101 to read my posts

The Yeshiva World article seems to confirm that the FBI did not view the threat as credible, BUT I do not recall having read a more biased article in my life...........

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/229061/dramatic-foia-disclosures-fuel-new-rubashkin-brief.html

Allan

Why is she even worried about Rubashkin getting out? Where is her emunah? Who needs a gentile judge? Shouldn’t she have perfect faith in the imminent second coming of the “Rebbe Melech Hamoshiach” to redeem Rubshkin long before his 27 years are up ?

Robert J. Barron, Attorney-at-Law

@Rebitzman ----> Directly on point. And yes, it makes it no less insane.

Even Ganbangers, Drug Kingpins, Mafioso, and some of the worst criminal scum you can imagine would never send anything like this. But then again, even though the people I've described are, shall we say "a little too comfortable living outside the law", at least they aren't sadly deluded about life the way the haredi's are.

It's like Jeff stated awhile back- they simply have no connection to objective reality.

Robert J. Barron, Attorney-at-Law

I'm assuming that these were not taken seriously by either the FBI, or the US Marshal's service....b/c if these had been actual threats, then the issuer of same would have been arrested and tried.

Just another poor, deluded haredi.

And I think Jeff is directly on point (as usual) with his statements, esp. about BT's having some sort of psychiatric issue. I know that is/was certainly the case for my family members who became haredi/frum. "Lost, lonely, and unbalanced" applied to them, sadly enough.

Alter Kocker

Have this disgusting excuse for a human arrested and thrown into prison for threats to a member of the judiciary. F**king nerve.

Jeff

"Sorry Jeff, but my experience is that some of the old-line Chabad chasidim are just as off the wall as the BTs, if not more so."

I don't disagree. My point is simply that Chabad has relied upon a steady influx of lost, lonely, unbalanced people to increase its numbers to their present level. Also, not all of the old-timers were crazy (I'm told quite a few of them are distressed by the current state of Chabad). Most of the BT's are (or at least have some form of psychiatric issue).

Rebitzman

This seems less a threat - and more of a "God will strike you down" ramble. I am guessing (by virtue if the fact that the woman is not in jail) that the authorities saw it that way as well.

That makes it no less insane.

Lawrence M. Reisman

Sorry Jeff, but my experience is that some of the old-line Chabad chasidim are just as off the wall as the BTs, if not more so.

Isa

He-Shem does not like hearing the lamentations of animals and humans who were in agony in Rubashkin's 'slave plantation'

BEHOLD! the 'hand' of Ha-Shem smote evil!

Abracadabra

Barry - LOL!

Jeff

Mentally ill with a religious obsession and delusions of grandeur - in other words, a typical Chabad BT. If it weren't for them, Chabad would be a just another run-of-the-mill Hasidic sect restricted to Crown Heights.

Eddy

Unfortunately some ultra-orthodox Jews are not developed enough to be citizens of the civilized country with equal rights and obligations. They need be governed the way Nicolas I of Russia or Friedrich the Great of Prussia did, because it is the only language they understand.

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Yankel Dovid

@Janscibacsi: I never said he shouldn't be rotting in jail, just that he is.

Rebitzman

@Yankel

He pretty clearly states it was released by the government as part if their response.......

jancsibacsi

Yankel Dovid-He is rotting in jail because he wants to rot in jail,let him pay back what he stole so he can free himselfs from rotting in jail,he rubashkin is a masochist.

WoolSilkCotton

You don't have to be mentally ill to be a BT, but it helps.

And she stupidly thought that an email cannot be traced.

Yankel Dovid

This was from 4 years ago. Judge Reade is alive and well, while Rubashkin is rotting in jail, and will continue to do so for at least the next 10 years, even if he gets a compassionate release down the road.

My question is how this fell into your hands.

Barry

You thing that was bad! You should have seen the email she sent to God Almighty the day after Purim, threatening and berating Him for His tardiness.

Abracadabra

That was a great laugh! A fun read!

With all her claims of super-powers with prayer to force God's hand at her will, she wasn't all that successful with Judge Reade, was she? Maybe she forgot to put on her cape that day.

Poor deluded BT.

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