Haredi Lev Tahor Cult Stopped From Fleeing To Rural Guatemala By Quebec Warrants

Attempts by the haredi Lev Tahor cult to flee Canada for Guatemala have been temporarily halted because the Canadian Province of Quebec’s child welfare agency still has outstanding warrants for all 129 Lev Tahor children.

Above: A file photo of two unidentified Lev Tahor girls

Haredi Lev Tahor Cult Stopped From Fleeing To Rural Guatemala By Quebec Warrants
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

Attempts by the haredi Lev Tahor cult to flee Canada for Guatemala have been temporarily halted, the Stratford Beacon-Herald reported, because the Canadian Province of Quebec’s child welfare agency still has outstanding warrants for all 129 Lev Tahor children.

The cult’s lawyer, Guidy Mamann, claimed they did not know the warrants existed until two weeks ago when, Mamann claimed, some Lev Tahor families made passport applications for their Canadian-born children.

Mamann also reportedly claimed that no Ontario court had been told of the existence of the Quebec warrants.

However, the first report of the warrants for removal of all 127 Lev Tahor children was in March, and existence of the warrants was confirmed by Blackburn News on April 11.

The actual removal order and the warrants that would accompany it was reportedly issued in November 2013.

Just before that removal order was issued, more than 200 Lev Tahor members fled rural Quebec as Quebec’s child welfare agency and the province’s youth court were about to remove 14 of the cult’s children.

The cult fled to Canada’s Bible Belt in rural Ontario, where unsophisticated law enforcement and a weak judiciary that favors fundamentalist religious practice allowed Lev Tahor safe haven.

But after months of alleged deception by Lev Tahor, a judge issued an order forbidding some members of the cult to leave the province in preparation for what most assumed would be a removal order for at least 13 of those 14 Lev Tahor children.

Those children, their parents, and a few other Lev Tahor then tried to illegally flee Canada. Two were caught in Calgary. Nine were stopped in Trinidad and Tobago and were deported back to Canada. Another eight to ten cult members successfully fled to rural Guatemala where they have allegedly been joined by perhaps 30 others. All are allegedly living in one two or three room dirt floor shack.

Last month, Ontario Superior Court Justice Lynda Templeton ruled that it wasn’t in the best interests of the children for them to be sent back to Quebec and put into foster care – although she did express grave reservations about how the children were being treated by their own families. So instead of upholding the Quebec court’s order, she chose to order the 13 Lev Tahor children be placed in temporary foster care in Ontario.

Mamann believes all those children will be reunited with their families by the end of the month.

Despite a clear report of 30 to 40 Lev Tahor members living in rural Guatemala and evidence that others are attempting to leave Canada and join them there, Mamann says the cult her represents is not planning on fleeing Canada.

Mamann reportedly said true two Lev Tahor leaders, Mayer Rosner and Uriel Goldman, are in Guatemala now, but he claimed the purpose of their visit primarily for trip there by the two men was for the birth of a grandson.

But he also reportedly admitted the two plan see if Guatemala is a suitable place for the anti-Zionist cult to live.

Most Lev Tahor parents are American or Israeli and are in Canada on temporary visas that will soon expire. But they can’t leave the country with their children because of the Quebec warrants.

There isn’t “a shred of proof that [the children] have been neglected. It’s a question of politics,” Mamann said, adding that if there was any real concern for the children’s welfare, Quebec authorities would defer to Ontario child welfare.

Ontario has refused to honor the Quebec warrants or to rely on any evidence against the cult amassed by Quebec child protective services – even though Ontario has no evidence to show the Quebec court was biased or that the evidence amassed there is invalid.

The Lev Tahor cult allegedly practices forced child marriage and severe emotional and physical abuse. It also allegedly fails to give any of its children secular education in violation of the law.

Lev Tahor is being supported by some haredi leaders who now fear that if Quebec is successful and removes the cult’s children, all hasidic schools (and some non-hasidic haredi schools) which illegally refuse to teach secular subjects will be closed by the government and that children from families who refuse to have their children educated in math, science, history and other required secular subjects will be removed from their homes and placed in foster care.

Comments

[The fullovshitter rov]

This is not news. I saw these people getting the kids birth certificates authenticated in the last few weeks they obviously did so to attempt to obtain travel documents.

[anchell]

obtaining a certification of birth is a tactical error. what this means is that the lev Tahor's children will be deemed citizens of Canada rather than being Indigenous to Canada. As i understand it old Common law treaties prohibits the restriction or limits to indigenous travel or trade. Consequently, to ask for and be granted Citizenship ensures that you are given the rights of citizen protected by the charter of rights and freedom. But you also loose your independence, which will in turn allow the government a wider range of power to control or dictate your choices as they will.

[Atheist Anarcho-Capitalist]

These people have the right to travel wherever they choose.

Absent conviction for an actual crime (thought crimes don't count - sorry Shmarya), the government has no right to hold them in the hostile environment of Canada against their will.

[lori]

Chatham Ontario is certainly not Ontario's bible belt, nor is our law enforcement unsophisticated. Please do not try to place blame on this small area of Ontario where this cult tried to hide. I would suggest that the majority of people in this community would love to see nothing more than those children saved from their destined fate.Certainly more must be in the works as it is doubtful so many can sit back while this travesty incurs.

[Jeff]

These people have the right to travel wherever they choose.

Absent conviction for an actual crime (thought crimes don't count - sorry Shmarya), the government has no right to hold them in the hostile environment of Canada against their will.

Posted by: Atheist Anarcho-Capitalist | May 14, 2014 at 12:42 PM
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I don't participate here any more, but I look in from time to time, and felt I had to respond to this.

In the eight or so years I've been commenting on this site, I've seen trolls of various orientations and levels of egregiousness come and go. You are, without question, the worst piece of garbage I have ever seen foul these pages. The drek you've posted in relation to this situation is inexcusable.

Every moment you draw breath is an offense against God (if s/he exists) and humanity. If you've reproduced, that in itself is a crime against the human genome. I sincerely hope you come to a bad end, having seen your children disavow everything in which you believe - the sooner, the better.

[Atheist Anarcho-Capitalist]

Dear Jeff,

There isn't a more blatant way to admit that you cannot make a coherent argument, than to resort to personal attacks.

I was actually quite amused to see you descend into a fit of rabid rage, because it showed me that my words are really provoking you to think - and that makes you uncomfortable.

Like any ultra-religious person, you cannot handle that your deeply ingrained worldview is being challenged, so you lash out with hate and violence.

You see, there is little difference between those that worship god and those that worship the state. They behave quite similarly most of the time, including the persistent rejection of reason and scientific evidence.

[Jeff]

I am not in a state of rage. To the contrary, you have to tell yourself that to satisfy yourself that my criticism *isn't* legitimate.

Nothing you've posted here has made anyone "think" anything, apart from what an inexpressible piece of garbage you are. "Reason and scientific evidence"? Please. You and reason aren't even on speaking terms.

Again, you really are the worst person I've come across here - and this site has been a magnet for the dregs of humanity from the day Shmarya opened up shop.