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the sickest part is that the parents probably approve. and wait till they catch the kid who taped and uploaded/shared this.....
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | March 18, 2014 at 09:35 AM
If I did that, it would be the end of my career (and rightly so; not that I would even if I could).
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | March 18, 2014 at 09:40 AM
Apologies to the Ramones (Beat on the Brat):
Beat on the kid
Beat on the kid
Beat on the kid till he drops his lid
Oy vey, oy vey, gevalt.
Beat on the kid
Beat on the kid
Beat on the kid so he'll be a good Yid
Oy vey, oy vey,gevalt
Oy vey, oy vey, gevalt.
What can you do?
What can you do?
With a kid like that always talking back
He's a bad Jew
What can you do?
What can you do?
With a kid like that always talking back
He's a bad Jew
Oy vey, oy vey, gevalt.
Nu?
(Repeat verses)
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | March 18, 2014 at 09:51 AM
Wonder if he beats his wife like that too.
Posted by: Reese | March 18, 2014 at 09:51 AM
"Corporal punishment in school has been outlawed in Canada, Kenya, Korea, South Africa, New Zealand and nearly all of Europe..... In the U.S. it is legal in public schools in 19 states, and in private schools in 48 states. Only the U.S. states of New Jersey and Iowa explicitly prohibit corporal punishment in private schools."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | March 18, 2014 at 09:52 AM
It ain't legal in NYC, thank goodness.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | March 18, 2014 at 10:06 AM
Prison time for sicko
Posted by: asnotsa | March 18, 2014 at 10:07 AM
wow.so this isn't illegal?
wonder what happened to whomever taped this.
Posted by: typadder | March 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM
Listen to what is being said -- the rebbe orders him: "Heib oif dein hent du" And the kid reluctantly but immediately follows his orders and then immediately gets the shock of his life -- WHAM! You hear the whack on his ear/head and wonder if it broke his eardrum as he coils into the corner in pain. And then they wonder why the kid grows up and doesnt want to have anything to do with them. Not enough its corporal punishment. But the humiliation in front of all the classmates who are looking on and terrified they may be next.
Do you really think the phone was pulled out immediately, or do you think this was going on for some time already and then the phone was pulled out. And don't think there wont be a calculation made of who was sitting in that position to be recording -- and he will pay a dear price.
That rebbe is sick. A murderer of souls of innocence. He needs a Rabbi Epstein treatment.
Posted by: sue the rebbe and the yeshiva | March 18, 2014 at 10:09 AM
The administration will only do something about it when it will cost them deep in their pockets or the high holy grand rebbe is about to sit in jail himself. (Then they'll FORCE the rebbe to admit to guilt, and do the prison time instead.)
Posted by: sue the rebbe and the yeshiva | March 18, 2014 at 10:12 AM
To me this is nothing new i was treated worse i was hit with a stick on bare skin and with slappings to this in europe in the 1950 s and realy 60 s,theese rebbes techers are morons animals they act like wild animals not like civilized teachers,this is the satmer condition beat the kid into submission.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | March 18, 2014 at 10:12 AM
The satmers skvers and the other hassidik groups are very similar to each other,they have this god complex they think using violence is a duty to get the child doing what they want
Posted by: jancsibacsi | March 18, 2014 at 10:19 AM
Hopefully, the family will remove the boy from this situation, sue and in the meantime home school him, because no other New Square yeshiva will accept him if they contact authorities. Very sad that the family will be ostracized and possibly have their house burned down.
Posted by: Devorah | March 18, 2014 at 10:22 AM
This has got to stop!! This is heart-breaking and so damaging. Then we wonder why the kinder stray. I say send this to the DA. At least there is evidence this time so the parents don't have to worry about being pressured, unlike that Gestetner termed "slap happy" incident at UTA in Spring Valley a few years back. The DA will have no excuse not to react to child endangerment.
Luke.
Posted by: MonseyLuke | March 18, 2014 at 10:35 AM
I bet they have already moved the teacher out of New Square to protect him.
Posted by: Devorah | March 18, 2014 at 10:40 AM
Devorah:
Yup. I want to see Zugibe wiggle with this one.
Luke.
Posted by: MonseyLuke | March 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM
So what is surprising?
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2014/01/haredi-rabbis-advocate-beating-children-so-they-learn-to-accept-torture-with-love-345.html
The boy's father would have been brought up in the same abusive manner and yet he knowingly submits his child to the same abuse
This Be The Verse
BY PHILIP LARKIN
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.
Posted by: Barry | March 18, 2014 at 10:51 AM
המנוול ברשות התורה
איז מחלל דעם שם הבורא
ער האקט און ער קלאפט מיט א רציחה
דאס קינד לויפט אוועק מיט א קפיצה
דער רבי איז א שייגעץ א פראסטער
פון אידישקייט איז ער קיין גוטע מוסטער
דער אויבערשטער זאל אים פאטשען
זאל יענער א גוט'ן פראסק כאפען
Posted by: sambatyonerchosid | March 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM
Barry< one of my favorite poems!
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | March 18, 2014 at 10:56 AM
from a perfunctory search, hits to the head might be considered child abuse even in NY where corp. pun. is allowed in private schools.
if this was NS i suggest the families of the victim and the boy who taped it install fire alarms and buy extinguishers. That evil place knows no limits.
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | March 18, 2014 at 11:06 AM
Remember that these abusive monsters spend all day studying a Torah that mandates LASHING as a punishment for violating some commandments and DEATH for many others (even picking up sticks on the wrong day) in the “good old days” when the Temple stood and rabbis ran the “justice” system.
Is it any wonder that years of studying these bronze age concepts of punishments, and believing god approves of them, has the effect of desensitizing these people to violence ?
Posted by: Allan | March 18, 2014 at 11:16 AM
Despicable. Since it is New Square, the boy and whoever shot this video are in grave danger. Beware of black hats with gas cans. That apparently is justice in New Square.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | March 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM
Well that did not take too long to get the video taken down? Good job. D#mn the kinder and protect the abuser.
Luke.
Posted by: MonseyLuke | March 18, 2014 at 11:22 AM
Surely someone should be able to ID the teacher...
Posted by: sifter | March 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM
Hopefully, someone copied it from You Tube before they removed it. Zugibe wouldn't have the guts to subpoena it from You Tube.
Posted by: Devorah | March 18, 2014 at 12:20 PM
This same behavior was going on in Yeshiva Toras Emes in Borough Park in the 60s and it was not Chasidic.
Those who hit children are just another version of child molesters.
Posted by: Wigmore | March 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM
the video is 6 years old, and the boy is B"H already freying out.
Posted by: plus.google.com/102564142430289890995 | March 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM
Glad to hear it "plus.google". The sooner he leaves this primitive cult, the more chance for a normal decent life he'll have.
Posted by: RWisler | March 18, 2014 at 12:42 PM
Wigmore--You mean rabbi wolf who used to beat kids?
Posted by: jancsibacsi | March 18, 2014 at 01:10 PM
Jancsi,
Yes, Rabbi Wolf, may he continue to burn in hell, as well as Rabbi Schwartz, may he soon follow.
Posted by: Wigmore | March 18, 2014 at 01:50 PM
So awful....poor kid squeals in pain. Since there is video proof, there is no excuse for this not to be prosecuted. I would literally take this guy apart if he touched my kid.
Posted by: Pearl of Wisdom | March 18, 2014 at 02:47 PM
probably that's why chasidim want to see smartphones destroyed. no iphones, no evidence!
Posted by: Yosef ben Matitya | March 18, 2014 at 02:47 PM
Wigmore--I went to torath emes in 1961 for about 2 months i remeber them well the kids used to talk about wold bending a quarter with his finfers i even saw him once hitting a kid i was a new commer in this country he never ever touched me so i never had any bad experience with him but one of the rebbi teachers gave me a slap because i could not write in hebrew scripts since i came from a communist country and did not learn how to write well after the slap he had a change of heart he saw me crying and asked forgivness from me he got scared,i can tell you in europw in heder from our satmerer rabbi we got much moch wrose beating and humiliation,i had to contend with him and also some beatings in the publich school we went since there were no yeshivas there on a small heder in the town ,i will never ever forget my uncle who came here to usa in 1950 mothers brother he told if ever my rebbi hits me here in usa you go right away to the police it is exactly what he told me.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | March 18, 2014 at 02:48 PM
>>the video is 6 years old, and the boy is B"H already freying out.
Unfortunately, that isn't the way it usually works. He'll most likely internalize the abuse, repress it or rationalize it as his fault, then go on to abuse others.
If the Toyreh lifestyle is so joyous and they're all so deliriously happy, why is there so much child and spousal abuse? But oh, you can't ask them that question, chos v'sholem. If you do, you're just a filthy apikoros who's trying to destroy their way of life.
Meanwhile, according to Jekyll, he and his friends are reading our comments and laughing over how bitter and miserable we are.
Posted by: Jeff | March 18, 2014 at 03:26 PM
Mental illness is rampant among these people who pass themselves off as Torah followers. They are abusive, violent, filled with rage...and they take it out on children. It's beyond criminal; it's sadism.
Posted by: EGAR | March 18, 2014 at 04:26 PM
:...The satmers skvers and the other hassidik groups are very similar to each other,they have this god complex they think using violence is a duty to get the child doing what they want..."
It's similar in equivalent non-Jewish sects. I've cited the book by the Pearls, devout fundamentalist Christians, titled "Training Up A Child" which advises beating children randomly to make them suitably submissive. Someone should take a loaded (with lead) baseball bat to that teacher. Or brass knuckles.
Posted by: S M L | March 18, 2014 at 05:11 PM
YL, that was fantastic, and Jeff (Joey Ramone) Hyman would be pleased. He was so bullied as a boy.
Posted by: Head of Broccoli | March 18, 2014 at 05:46 PM
This is what happens whem you allow uneducated, unqualified people to become "teachers".
Posted by: David | March 18, 2014 at 06:38 PM
@David "This is what happens whem you allow uneducated, unqualified people to become 'teachers'."
Yet another reason to oppose school vouchers.
Posted by: Nigritude Ultramarine | March 18, 2014 at 07:23 PM
Sambatyonerchosid: אמן
I feel your pain. Wish you all the best.
Posted by: Fleishike Kishke | March 18, 2014 at 07:41 PM
Scum. Nothing but scum. If someone did that to my nephews or niece, I'd break their bones.
Think this animal - and others like him- understand lawsuits, criminal charges, etc? I don't think so. I don't think they understand anything more than brute force.
Scum. Nothing but scum wrapped in a supposed cloak of holiness.
Posted by: Robert J. Barron, Attorney-at-Law | March 18, 2014 at 08:34 PM
Robert J. Barron--"Scum. Nothing but scum wrapped in a supposed cloak of holiness"
I lived trough this myself,can you beleive my rebbi lives near me here in brooklyn my childhood rebbi from europe who used to torture us he is 90 or so years old would like to punch him out but hold myself back havent seen him in over a decade even though he lives about 10 blocks from me and he was my rebbi in heder for over 6 years everyday.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | March 18, 2014 at 08:58 PM
Jancsi,
I'm glad you were there for only two months. Sadly, I was there for many more years.
Wolf was a sadist and a child abuser. (You can abuse children in ways other than sexual.) Schwartz was unquestionably a SHPOS and Wolf's enabler and apologist. In his own right, however, he too, smacked around defenseless children and humiliated and embarrassed many.
I am eagerly awaiting him to croak and look forward to being one of the dissenting opinion when he is inevitably called a great figure in Jewish education.
Posted by: Wigmore | March 18, 2014 at 10:21 PM
Wigmore--I wrote before about my rebbi for 6 years in europe who beat us mercilesly so i went through similar experience as you did by the way our shohet used to come also to tech us he was the who molested me maybee other kids in mikva since those days in the 50 s in a town there was no indor plumbing and we went to the pre war mikva in the summer time what can i tell you theese ultra religious animals have no souls worst then any nopnjew i have ever encountered at least they have some respect for us as human beings.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | March 19, 2014 at 11:17 AM
Wigmore
I went there from late 60s to 1980.
I beilive Rabbi Shwartz passed away.
Posted by: stom | March 19, 2014 at 03:15 PM
Stom,
I haven't heard that. What details do you have?
Posted by: Wigmore | March 19, 2014 at 04:26 PM
Wigmore,
I remeber reading it maybe 2 years ago and of course everyone was praising what a great Rabbi and teacher he was.
Many good teachers, but some really bad ones.
Stom.
Posted by: stom | March 19, 2014 at 05:02 PM
"content rejected"? What happened to the video?
Posted by: Head of Broccoli | March 19, 2014 at 10:03 PM
I taught english in satmar
There was a hall monitor who carried a stick and if a teacher would send out a child from the room for misbehaving, he was quick to smack the crap out of the kid. I would always have to tell the monitor to please not hit the kid when I would send him out. I couldn't handle that. Left after a few months.
Posted by: Y S L | March 20, 2014 at 12:48 PM
Big tough guy slapping around a scared little kid. What do you call this species. Surely they are not human.
Posted by: Hal | March 21, 2014 at 01:48 PM