Likud Member Of Knesset Says Haredi MK Contributed More To Israel Than Yair Lapid, Says Haredim Should Not Be Drafted
"When MK Eichler reached the age of 18, he did not bother anybody. The State of Israel did not have to take care of him for three years in exchange for zero security output. Eichler did not rob Israel’s resources at the expense of its security." [I.e., Eichler did not serve in the IDF. Lapid did. The money Eichler got from the state when he should have been serving in the IDF but was not did not come out of the defense budget. Lapid was paid, fed and clothed out of the defense budget – just like like all other IDF soldiers. But Lapid was not in a combat unit so his time in the IDF was "extraneous" and did "nothing for Israel’s security."]
MK Moshe Feiglin
Likud Member Of Knesset Says Haredi MK Contributed More To Israel Than Yair Lapid, Says Haredim Should Not Be Drafted
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com
Likud Member of Knesset Moshe Feiglin claims that the attempt to craft a draft law that shares the burden of defending Israel equally between all sectors of Israeli society is “ridiculous.”
Writing on his faction’s website today, Feiglin attacked the new proposed law and Finance Minister Yair Lapid’s personal army service:
“The debate over ultra-Orthodox service in the army is ridiculous.
“Tell me something: Who has contributed more to Israel’s security? Yair Lapid or Torah Jewry’s ultra-Orthodox MK Yisrael Eichler?
“I do not intend to write about the importance of Torah learning. I absolutely believe that Torah study is crucial for Israel. But let’s say that Eichler has spent his life learning Chinese. Who has contributed more to Israel’s security? Lapid or Eichler?
“Eichler, without a doubt.
“Why?
“Because when MK Eichler reached the age of 18, he did not bother anybody. The State of Israel did not have to take care of him for three years in exchange for zero security output. Eichler did not rob Israel’s resources at the expense of its security. [i.e., Eichler did not serve in the IDF. Lapid did. The money Eichler got from the state when he should have been serving in the IDF but was not did not come out of the defense budget. Lapid was paid, fed and clothed out of the defense budget – just like like all other IDF soldiers. But Lapid was not in a combat unit so his time in the IDF was "extraneous" and did "nothing for Israel’s security."]
“Most of the soldiers in the IDF today are Yair Lapid. [i.e., most IDF soldiers serve in support roles. The same thing is true in many armies worldwide.] They serve in extraneous positions that do nothing for Israel’s security. Drafting the ultra-Orthodox against their will increases the amount of soldiers in the army who do absolutely nothing. It will deepen our deficit and worst of all – will be detrimental to Israel’s security.
“What Israel needs is a professional volunteer army, not political populism."
Many of Feiglin’s views closely mirror the positions of the late extremist Rabbi Meir Kahane, who Feiglin and his faction have repeatedly refused to denounce or distance themselves from.
This guy looks weird , he has the looks of rasputin .
Posted by: jancsibacsi | February 11, 2014 at 02:46 PM
Lewis Carroll, call your office.
Posted by: Sarek | February 11, 2014 at 03:01 PM
He's right. It's not like the military needs and encompasses many different positions other than combat. It's also not like draftees are trained in the event that they do need to be put into combat during a war or an offensive
Oh wait
Posted by: (The other) Eli | February 11, 2014 at 03:07 PM
I see his face & -I don't know why - I hear the hissing of a female cobra.
He is trying to sell himself for next elections. Religiously, to haredim, he is totally worthless.
However, his judeo-fascist (not allowed to use the epithet Nazi any longer in Israel) views have some appeal among some haredim & those he is trying to please/reach.
Posted by: Yosef ben Matitya | February 11, 2014 at 06:59 PM
I wonder whether these Haredi leaders realize how offensive many American Jews find their comments to be. As more and more American Jews disengage themselves from the Jewish community, often marrying non-Jewish spouses, it means less support for Jewish charities in the US and in Israel. When a list of the country's top 50 philanthropic donors for 2013 was released yesterday, a number of Jewish web sites tried to claim Mark Zuckerberg as a Member of the Tribe. In reality he would be best described as a Jewish atheist (Wikipedia) who has been a large supporter of the Silicon Valley Foundation and the Newark, NJ School District. Most large scale American Jewish donors these days support medical centers, colleges, symphony orchestras, pubic education and/or public museums. I can think of only two billionaires that identify with Jewish and Israeli charities and they are both around 80 years old.
Posted by: rocky | February 11, 2014 at 08:15 PM
I think his cynicism has been lost on some of you.
He is basically saying that Hareidim are worthless and about as useful to Israel as if they learned Chinese.
He is also pointing out lapid's hypocrisy but in no way supports the Hareidim.
He is an extremist in all ways and his ultimate aim is a state based on Halacha but absolutely not haredi Halacha but rather national religious Zionist Halacha.
Posted by: shmuel | February 11, 2014 at 11:04 PM
"Most of the soldiers in the IDF today are Yair Lapid. They serve in extraneous positions that do nothing for Israel’s security."
Are they really honest-to-God this stupid?
Posted by: Jeff | February 12, 2014 at 06:23 AM
Jeff,
In answer to your question, yes.
Posted by: shari | February 12, 2014 at 07:56 AM
He is an interesting character
He supports medical marijuana
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4284110,00.html
and hangs out in Gay bars
http://awiderbridge.org/moshe-feiglin-walks-into-a-gay-bar/
Posted by: Franklin Clinton | February 12, 2014 at 09:57 AM
Feiglin repeatedly distanced himself from Kahane's ideology, from Kahane, and even from Meir Kahane's murdered son, Benyamin Kahane and denounced them. He is now well enough known in Israel that no one here would lob such an accusation against him, let alone put him in a category with Kahane's party or ideology.
It is also incorrect to state that he's gunning for a halacha state. I wish he was, but he believes in the purity of democracy and does not believe that any social value (this is how he considers halachot) should ever be imposed on anyone unless it matches the level of a "national value," which he regards as "a value observed by 80% or 90% of the population" - and only then, he says, would he consider legislation to enforce it by law. The fact that many people who would like to see a halacha state support him is irrelevant to who he is. At least 50% of these people support Bennet, and not all the other 50% support Feiglin.
Posted by: Maskil | February 13, 2014 at 04:28 PM