Cell Phone Allegedly Found Strapped To Murdered Slumlord's Car
A cell phone was reportedly found strapped underneath murdered hasidic slumlord Menachem "Max" Stark's car. It was apparently being used as a tracking device.
Menachem "Max" Stark
WABC reports:
…Sources tell Eyewitness News a cell phone was found strapped underneath Menachem Stark's car that was apparently being used as a tracking device. Police are trying to find the phone's registered owner.…
interesting.
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | January 11, 2014 at 09:46 PM
In these days of pre-paid phones, not likely that they'll find an owner (unless they are VERY stupid).
This whole case is baffling. One moment it seems like a hack job, the next a professional hit. Even this.......using technology to track him, but rather crude (there are more efficient GPS devices that can be used to track vehicles) technology..................
Posted by: rebitzman - $101 to read my posts | January 11, 2014 at 09:51 PM
Either they only needed to track him for a very short period of time --or-- they needed to be able to call that phone.
Why would they need to call that phone?
Perhaps to detonate explosives also attached to the car.
Posted by: Shmarya Rosenberg | January 11, 2014 at 09:56 PM
More than meets the eye in this crime. This wasn't no random murder. Its obvious Stark was dealing with the wrong people and Imdon't mean the Goyim
Posted by: avrom B | January 11, 2014 at 10:11 PM
I am not seeing professional hit here, it all looks like amateur hour. If the phone was used as a detonator then (A) I think that would have leaked out with news of the phone and (B) the hit-men would be no where near the car (the whole purpose of using a phone as a detonator is that you can be miles away).
I am also not buying the "imported" Russian hit-men theory. Why would the Russian mob have to fly anyone in, they have plenty of local talent and better than what we see going down here. Professionals would be embarrassed with how this went down (they are on surveillance, they left the phone, etc, etc). Also I find it hard to believe that in that neighborhood strangers could go unchallenged. This all smells like a smoke screen to hide the fact that someone in the community is involved.
Posted by: David Foreman | January 11, 2014 at 10:16 PM
Shmarya - short term is right.
Detonator makes some sense, but hard to believe that it wouldn't have been reported or (if they'd gone to the trouble to plant one) why they wouldn't use it over a hand to hand, knock down fight..
This us just weird.........
Posted by: rebitzman - $101 to read my posts | January 11, 2014 at 10:23 PM
i don't think its related to bomb. just a way to find out where he was when they wanted to find him. the battery could last a number of days if just "on" . and theres a free app that can track your phones whereabouts from any computer or smartphone. that would only use the battery for the few seconds necessary to find the current location if thats all you wanted to do.
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | January 11, 2014 at 10:44 PM
It's obvious that these killers watched "The Godfather" where Michael Corleone's new wife gets blown up. This story gets more and more ridiculous every day.
Posted by: RWisler | January 11, 2014 at 11:12 PM
this case is getting stranger by the day
Posted by: seymour | January 11, 2014 at 11:55 PM
To David F
You can start by talking to his haraidi partner Mr Perlmutter. If you can find him, he mysteriously went into hiding.
Ywah we know he is scared...
Yeah he is scared that Starks family will find him.......
Do you remember the movie A stranger amongst us? Prepare for the real life version.
Posted by: put a square into a hole | January 12, 2014 at 12:01 AM
Doesn't this prove that cell phones are hazardous to hairydim?
By the way, you can get much cheaper and better gps tracking devices, with batteries which last much longer.
Posted by: BeenThereDoneThat | January 12, 2014 at 12:13 AM
Was it an iPhone?
Posted by: (The other) Eli | January 12, 2014 at 05:48 AM
Wow Sherlock Shmarya you got it all figured out, don't you think it's time you dropped the Slumlord from his name already, it seems very repetitive and when that happens you sound stupid
Posted by: ShmaryaSux | January 12, 2014 at 06:52 AM
It's obvious that these killers watched "The Godfather" where Michael Corleone's new wife gets blown up. This story gets more and more ridiculous every day.
Posted by: RWisler | January 11, 2014 at 11:12 PM
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He sleeps with the fishes.
Posted by: Philadelinquency.com | January 12, 2014 at 07:12 AM
ShmaryaSux--Its a free country not like north koread here you write things that you feel pertains to this incident who are you to tell others what to write,go to iran if you dont like it here maybee there you will learn a lesson about freedom,you are afraid of the truth arent you.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 12, 2014 at 07:41 AM
Jamcsi
You too, when you keep repeating your silly mohel/shochet nonsense time and again, look very stupid. Repetition is something bored stupid people do when they write or talk.
Posted by: JekylJ | January 12, 2014 at 08:32 AM
JekylJ--You are brain damaged, you repeat it much more then i do besides we are not talking about repeating something just about trying to dictate others what to write ,as they say in yiddish,di bist a farrikter shoite.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 12, 2014 at 08:41 AM
And d bist a Ingerisher ferd
Posted by: JekylJ | January 12, 2014 at 08:46 AM
Jancsi
"Murdered slumlord" had a name. Only Bastards like Shmarya and co. will refrain from using his name in favor of the worn-out title.
Posted by: JekylJ | January 12, 2014 at 08:51 AM
Crooked Slumlord + Financial Fraudster = Successful Businessman
This, according to the Jewland dictionary
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | January 12, 2014 at 09:23 AM
WoolSilkCotton=shtik drek in plain old Yiddish.
Posted by: JekylJ | January 12, 2014 at 10:16 AM
jekylJ you sure love to defend Stark. Are you his brother or brother in law? Cause you are defending a criminal. You must be a member of his family! Shame on you.
Posted by: MosesMalone | January 12, 2014 at 10:20 AM
Jekyl, wasn't it you, or one of the other frumma apologists here, who said that we are attacking Stark because we are jealous of his being such a successful businessman as well as a frum yid?
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | January 12, 2014 at 10:21 AM
""""Murdered slumlord" had a name. Only Bastards like Shmarya and co. will refrain from using his name in favor of the worn-out title."""
You are right! need to get a better name... How about 'cockroach'
After all, don't the Satmar regard goyyim and us even to MO Jews as cockroaches
Posted by: Isa | January 12, 2014 at 10:26 AM
Fighting Jewish landlords isn't anti-Semitic:
http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thinking/190660/fighting-jewish-slumlords-isnt-anti-semitic/?picks_feed=true&picks_feed=true
Posted by: Philadelinquency.com | January 12, 2014 at 10:40 AM
Menachem Cockroach Stark has a nice ring to it.
Posted by: MosesMalone | January 12, 2014 at 10:54 AM
Max Stark was a slumlord. Nobody can erase that no matter how hard they try. It's in the public record for all to see. The evacuation of the Sweater Factory lofts by the NYDOB was that bad.
Posted by: Philadelinquency.com | January 12, 2014 at 11:00 AM
JekylJ--"-And d bist a Ingerisher ferd"
Still much better then a farbissene farrikte shoite:)
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 12, 2014 at 11:06 AM
I have never defended Menachem Stark. Au contraire, I believe that he was a crook. Nevertheless, the fact that it is party-time at FM and the vile headlines again and again says a whole lot about you rather than about Mr. stark.
MO and lower denominations have their fair share of crooks. Had it played out that the 'slumlord' had been a reform or conservative person, sone decency would have been portrayed by Shmarya regardless of the intensity of that person's criminal history.
You know it as well as I do.
Posted by: JekylJ | January 12, 2014 at 11:08 AM
Jeckyl,
Save your breath on WoolCotton,the guy , who claims to be a medical doctor, is a heartless, cynical and arrogant person.
I"m sure he has been sued for malpractice numerous times
Unless he is a pathologist.I"m sure he would enjoy carving up cadavers
Posted by: jimmyInBkln | January 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM
"Had it played out that the 'slumlord' had been a reform or conservative person, sone decency would have been portrayed by Shmarya regardless of the intensity of that person's criminal history.
You know it as well as I do".
Posted by: JekylJ | January 12, 2014 at 11:08 AM
But that's because the more RELIGIOUS one portrays himself to be,--and it doesn't matter what the religion is -- the more HYPOCRITICAL their unethical, immoral and illegal actions are. Don't you get it???
Posted by: Flatbush Gal | January 12, 2014 at 11:43 AM
WSC, you can be my physician any time.
Posted by: dh | January 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM
MosesMalone,
You must have overdosed on crack.
Not one word you say makes any sense.
Tell the attending psychiatrist that your meds have to reevaluated
Posted by: jimmyInBkln | January 12, 2014 at 02:19 PM
"...heartless, cynical and arrogant..." Hooray! When a frum troll hates me, I must be doing something right.
DH, thanks for the kind words. Stay healthy so you don't need any doc.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | January 12, 2014 at 03:43 PM
The cell phone is more likely for tracking than for detonating a bomb (in which case you'd need a bomb and the knowhow for turning a cellphone into a detonator).
This leads me to a few hunches:
1. Stark (who had no criminal record, but seemed to be mixed up in things that may not have had a "hisachdus" hechsher) was suspected of being an informer. The people he had information on wanted to track him down and see where he goes and who he sees.
2. Stark (rumored to have had an affair) was being tracked by his wife's family or the family of the woman he was seeing (if such an affair was happening or suspected).
Nevertheless, I want to emphasize that regardless of how Stark did business or what he did he did not deserve to die "like a dog". His family did not deserve to lose him. When we speculate about this (admittedly fascinating) mystery and point out the hypocrisy of Stark's community in their reactions, let's not get carried away to the point where we imply that Stark deserved to be killed.
Posted by: Meir | January 12, 2014 at 07:10 PM
CNN is reporting that a small GPS was found in Starks anus.
It was embedded in a gefilte fish which he consumed (with chrein of course ).
Fuxker got what he deserved.
Can't screw over all the people all the the and expect to get away with it. Even if you are a heiliger satmar sack of shit
Even if you pass up $ to aron and Zalman - two fat ugly nasty sons of bitches.
Posted by: Primetrades | January 12, 2014 at 08:34 PM
Thank you, Primetrades, for "keepin' it real".
Whether or not he 'deserved' his fate, he certainly lived a life style where such an ending was entirely predictable.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | January 12, 2014 at 09:53 PM
This find lends some credence to the theory of imported killers from eastern Europe, where they would rather jury-rig a stolen cell phone as a crude trackng device than fork over $200 for a real GPS device that would last up to 30 days. (I googled GPS tracking device battery life.)
How could it have been a cell-phone detonator. Even frum gangsters would have enough brains (if not education) to realize that it would need to be attached to a bomb before being installed....
Posted by: Eli, what me messiah? | January 13, 2014 at 12:37 AM
News papers been quiet past few days about stark.
Something's up. Permutter & mendleowitz still crappong their pants.
I'm thinking they contacted their main debtor and figuring out a payment plan. Not so cocky now perlmuter (who didn't even attend his nephews wedding this past Thursday night - groise beesha),& mendleowitz (think he's been Mia from adorama on w18 st).
All the tehillim saying and the funds smuggled to aron / Zalman - not helping so much .
My advice - pay back all the $ you owe people and pray to Buddha that they still won't get u in a few years when this dies down.
And most Importantly, learn from this. Don't fuk people over - even though it's in your nature. Fight it. Hard
Posted by: Primetrades | January 13, 2014 at 06:10 AM