Racist Anti-Obama Emails Allegedly Circulated By Chabad Followers From Crown Heights

"…He'll mess up our streets from Nostrand to Troy But what do expect from a goy We will be stranded by the dozens He wouldn't do this to his Muslims But remember halacha And say a brocha When you see him, to bless a king But me, boruch dyan emes [blessed is the True Judge, the blessing said when someone – in this case, the implication is President Obama – dies or is killed], I'd rather sing…"

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My family is getting extremely racist for the Obama visit to Brooklyn (self.Judaism)

submitted 3 hours ago by canigetathrowyeah

This is half rant, half advice seeking.

So the President is coming to/through Crown Heights today and it has sparked a disgustingly hateful and racist email chain from my local cousins and grandfather. There have been allusions to James Earl Ray, "His Royal Blackness," and the following poem:

    It was a beautiful day in our neighborhood But he wants to mess it up because he could

    He will clog our cars and our busses He wants to destroy our oneg Shabbos

    He'll mess up our streets from Nostrand to Troy But what do expect from a goy

    We will be stranded by the dozens He wouldn't do this to his Muslims

    But remember halacha And say a brocha

    When you see him, to bless a king But me, boruch dyan emes, I'd rather sing

How do I react to this?

Comments

[Yochanan Lavie]

Whether you like Obama or not, he is the president and the office should be respected. I said the same thing about George W. Bush. And racism, whether anti-black or anti-gentile, always sucks.

[RWisler]

Where did anyone get the idea that Obama was a Muslim?

[Account Deleted]

RWisler,I guess because his second name is Hussein.

[Jeff]

Of course, if a big shot Chabad rov came through, they'd clog the streets themselves and not complain.

Meanwhile, they have contempt for Obama, yet they feel entitled to ask him for a pardon for Rubashkin.

Their hubris is unbelievable. Haredim may be the most arrogant, condescending, utterly self-absorbed fundamentalists on earth.

[WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed]

This should be reported to the FBI, like any threat against an elected official.

[m]

chabad are crazy . this statement proves it .

who could write such a crazy statement ?
only a chabad with a cha-bad mind , brainwashed to the core .

and they want to use Obama for a pardon after they wrote such a crazy statement .

this statement should be sent to Obama , to the white house to show him who cha=bad really are . and it has to be sent fast before Obama might make a decision regarding pardoning sholom rubashkin .

[RWisler]

Abu Jihad wrote in response to my question about the president being a Muslim:

I guess because his second name is Hussein.

I reply:

I think that his mother simply named him exactly the same name as his Kenyan father had (ie: Barak Hussein Obama Jr. -- a common African name). I believe that his mother was kind of a beatnick non-conformist who married an African man displaying this non-conformity. I would think that he was raised without any religious affiliation by her and then started attending church when he married.

I don't think that one can judge a person's religion by their name unless you're Rush Limbaugh or one of his followers.

[Jake]

Obama was born into Islam. His father was Muslim.

Though he has chosen to be heretic and practice Christianity.

[rebitzman - $101 to read my posts]

@Jake

According to Islam - YOU were born a Muslim.

The Prophet Muhammad said, "No babe is born but upon Fitra (as a Muslim)." Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6426

[Jake]

@Rebitman yup.

[Account Deleted]

Bunch of ignorant bigots. Who cares if he was born of a Muslin father or mother? does he profess Chrsitianity as his religion? Yes. Is he a closet Muslim? We don't know, and frankly shouldn't care, since his actions so far demonstrate that he runs a pretty decent seular agenda.

Get it over with your inferiority or superiority complex (whatever the case might be), fools.

[Maskil]

Posted by: RWisler | October 25, 2013 at 02:09 PM

Like Jake said: He was born to a Muslim father, that makes him a Muslim, even if he doesn't know it. It doesn't make him a believing Muslim, or a practicing Muslim, but it makes him a Muslim. If I had any evidence that I were a male-line descendant from a Muslim then I would accept that reality as well (and it would grant me a few extra rights in Jerusalem).

Where did anyone get the idea that Obama was Black?

[Western Jew]

Let the ChaBaD burn their own wardrobe!!!!!!! Good luck!

[Western Jew]

I think that ChaBaD is preparing for doomsday.. Of their own social agenda! Never Again.

[Fireandwater40]

I think it's funny how many people here are so anti-racism or anti-goyim, yet are willing to bash Chabad or Charedim in general based on the actions of a few. There was an article a few days ago about s Charedi rabbi wanting to increase education in Jewish philosophy and he was attacked by so many posters here. Are you no better than a person who judges all blacks because of the tremendous amount of black criminals?

[Yosef ben Matitya]

No wisdom, no understanding and no knowledge. Keep them away from Judaism.

[Yosef ben Matitya]

Islam isn't the problem. Problem is skin colour. They prefer tall und blond gentiles like what they consider themselves to be. Though as an outside observer they look more like short ridiculous bearded trolls in dusty black suits with their shirts outside their pants.

[Frum but normal]

Shmaryah,I guess racism is only ok when it is targeted against Orthodox Jews,this sewer of a blog is the most vile racist antisemitic blog on the World Wide Web,
No wonder almost all of the extreme white power anti jewish sites,have links to your site

[RWisler]

Just to clarify....

Barak Hussein Obama Sr. (the late father of our president) was born a Muslim but converted to Anglican Christianity at age 6 and later became an athiest. He hadn't been a practitioner of Islam since age 6.

Thus.... Barak Hussein Obama Jr. (our President) was NOT born to a Muslim father.

[Fireandwater40]

by the way, when I said anti-goyim... I meant those who are disgusted by those Jews who are anti-goyim.

[Maskil]

RW,

Thanks. I didn't know that Obama St. had officially unidentified with Islam long before Jr. was born. I was misinformed.

Still, where did anyone get the idea that Obama was black? His mother's not black. Fred Armisen isn't black. It seems like another one of those legends spread by Fox news.

[Account Deleted]

Like Jake said: He was born to a Muslim father, that makes him a Muslim, even if he doesn't know it. It doesn't make him a believing Muslim, or a practicing Muslim, but it makes him a Muslim.
Scritto da: Maskil

That's not correct.Being a Muslim is not an ethnic thing like being french or swedish.You are a Muslim ONLY if you believe in Islam;people born from a Muslim father but who don't believe in Islam are kefar(pagans).It's not like in Judaism,where you are Jewish if your mother is Jewish even if you don't know it.

[Maskil]

Yes. I corrected myself after RWisler's clarification. Had his father been Muslim when Obama was born he would have been considered a "cultural Muslim" who is expected by Islam to study and come closer to his Muslim heritage. But, given that he was not been born to a Muslim father, he would have to convert to Islam to be regarded in any way a Muslim

[Account Deleted]

Ok, mistery solved, can we let Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage know about our discoveries and put the whole issue to rest?

[Maskil]

They know. They obviously know. They make a living from perpetuating myths like these (not that to the people here a technical distinction of whether or not the Islamic faith considers Obama a Muslim or not makes any difference... but to Limbaugh and Savage listeners it's like Sheikh Obama initiated the great jihad against America).

[WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed]

Whatever religion you are is strictly a belief that exists in your mind. It does not matter who or what your father or mother were. You do not 'inherit' religion. Nothing physical is passed on via genetics when it comes to religion, politics, or favorite sports team.
It all exists in your head. If your belief system insists on a Jewish mother, or a Moslem father, etc. that exists strictly in your mind as a belief, as well as in the minds of others who also feel that way.
If I decide tomorrow to become a Republican, or an Episcopalian, or a Kansas City Royals fan, it's all the same thing. It's whatever I want to believe I am. If others doubt me and and question my new loyalties, that's their problem.

[Fireandwater40]

WSC- I get it! So, if tomorrow you want to become a British citizen, then you are because you believe you are? Gotcha.

[WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed]

Fire, you are referring to a matter with legal requirements, including documentation, recognized by all civilized nations, and serious penalties for forging such documents.
Religious belief, political inclination, and sports fan clubs do not involve any requirements enforced by law. Maybe membership dues, not much else. It's whatever you want it to be, as long as you're happy with it.
If I decided today that I'm British, I can enjoy it all I want, and the British government won't mind unless it involves passports, legal documents, paying taxes, military service,and such.
Religions, political parties, and sports teams can't put me in jail for my thoughts. Neither can a government, unless I interfere with their operations, such as forging a British passport.

[Fireandwater40]

No one is putting anyone in jail for membership... but religion has rules just like countries have rules. I didn't realized that you in your infinite power had the power to dissolve all rules of religion because you don't like them. The fact is, is that if a person wants to be Jewish he has to fulfill certain requirements, and a person is Jewish if he has fulfilled certain requirements, and that's the fact. It's your choice to care whether you are Jewish or not, but it doesn't change the fact whether you are or not.

In addition, I can't speak for other religions, but Judaism is a nationality as well as a religion (Islam wants all nations to be Islam, Christianity wants all nations to be Christian, Judaism is comfortable being one of the many nations in the world and view their role as being a light unto the nations). To the best of knowledge, you can't relinquish you status as part of a nation, and the same thing applies to the Jewish nation. If you're Jewish, you're Jewish for life, and if you want to be Jewish, you have to fulfill the requirements that the nation (in this case, also dictated by G-d) demands.

[Fireandwater40]

I guess I think of Judaism as being born into a royal family of sorts. If a person is born into a royal family (at least in the days when royalty meant something- but I guess it still exists in the United Kingdom), it automatically came with certain rights and responsibilities. Could a person run away, choose to ignore is royal heritage, not take advantage of his rights and not fulfill his responsibilities? Sure. But does that mean he is no longer part of the royal family? No. And if this person ever decides to return to his roots, he probably good (unless there would be some rules). The same is true is with Judaism. A person is a Jew if he or she is born a Jew. He can choose to ignore it, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a Jew who can return to his royal heritage if he chooses.

[Fireandwater40]

*he probably could (unless there were some rules against letting a runaway back in to the royal family).

[WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed]

You've been reading too much Chabad 101 propaganda.

99.99% of people on the planet say your beliefs and concept of God is wrong. A sizable number of those people think you should be killed.

'Royalty'? What a load of hubris. Tell your nonJewish friends- if you have any. And you wonder why there is so much hatred of Jews.
Your version of Judaism exists entirely in your imagination. The vast majority of Jews want nothing to do with your version of Judaism.
The entire infrastructure of orthodox Judaism is corrupt and repugnant. As Yogi Berra said, "include me out".
Previous generations of Jews fled eastern Europe for a lot of good reasons, not the least of which was the religious tyranny of the orthodox.
People of all religions fled countries to escape religious tyranny. Civilized nations prevent religions from having any meaningful or official power.
Every religion, including orthodox Judaism, would love to take over wherever they are, and start imprisoning and slaughtering all opposition. Fortunately, you and your holy rabbis are prevented from doing so.
I was not 'born a Jew' any more than I was 'born a Yankee fan'. Get over your idiotic nonsense.

[Fireandwater40]

Don't get me wrong... I completely understand where you're coming from. You believe that Judaism is just some made up fantsay, which allows you to assume that people can join and leave as they please. You are entitled to that belief. I, and many others, believe that Judaism is something real. A non-Jew can't just one day decide to be Jewish, he has to go through a process. And if a person is born Jewish, he is Jewish whether he wants to admit it or not. Unless you accept that assumption that Judaism is something real, than nothing I say is going to convince you and nothing you say will convince me. We're working under completely different assumptions.

And I only meant royalty as a metaphor, I did not mean that Jews are kings and non-Jews are their subjects. I do believe that Jews are G-d's ambassadors to mankind as a whole and should live their life based on a higher moral standard to serve as (what Isaiah calls) a light unto the nations.

And also, if you look at the Torah itself, it recognizes that Judaism is just one nation among others... no where will you find a source that Judaism wants to impose its religion on the world. Any rabbi who you claim would love to take over the world is not working within the guidelines of the Torah- written or oral.

[Yosef ben Matitya]

I do believe that Jews are G-d's ambassadors to....(what Isaiah calls) a light unto the nations.

sure thing. trouble is, the subjects of this posting, like to represent themselves as a light to the nations and what not, many of them however are crooks, they also don't even realize that they stink and ought to change their spiritual diapers. a shunde into the nations. that's what they are.

[Fireandwater40]

Yosef- I agree with you... many frum Jews aren't doing such a good job. Though, many are... it's just that there's a lot more publicity for the criminals and child molesters among the frum than on those who do good.

[Account Deleted]

If we could get rid of chasidut and expecially chabad,I'd not have anything against ortho Judaism.
As a matter of fact,I don't consider chabad Judaism at all,since they indulge in idolatruos practices,pagan rites and worship a dead Jew believing he is G-dly.

[Yosef ben Matitya]

As a matter of fact,I don't consider chabad Judaism at all,since they indulge in idolatruos practices,pagan rites and worship a dead Jew believing he is G-dly.

Hear, hear, Abu Jihad

[Account Deleted]

Thanks,Yosef ben Matitya!