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October 14, 2013

Rabbi Norman Lamm's Son Used Front Man To Hide Plans For New Satmar Hasidic Village

Shalom Lamm and Rabbi Norman LammIn May 2006, a developer with deep political and business ties to this eastern Sullivan County village of about 400 signed a secret agreement to be the front man for a development of "at least 400 units of town houses" on some 200 acres. That's the same development that is now the target of virulent protests because it is slated to become a new Satmar village that will dwarf the existing 420 residents of this small New York State town.

  Shalom Lamm and Rabbi Norman Lamm

Shalom Lamm is a son of Rabbi Norman Lamm, the former chancellor of Yeshiva University. In 2006 when Shalom Lamm started this scheme, his father was still active and healthy – although there is no indication that he knew what his son was doing.

The Times Herald-Record reports:

In May 2006, a developer with deep political and business ties to this eastern Sullivan County village of about 400 signed a secret agreement to be the front man for a development of "at least 400 units of town houses" on some 200 acres. That's the same development that is now the target of virulent protests and outright fears, in part because it and its proposed private girls' school may become Hasidic.

But in that same month, that developer and former Mamakating Supervisor Duane Roe — who signed that "Confidential Retention Agreement" with developer Shalom Lamm and his partner, Kenneth Nakdimen — told a completely different story to the Bloomingburg Village Board, and whomever would listen.

It would be a development of 125 second homes, Roe recalls saying today. Scores of others also recall him saying that.

"The proposal is for upscale second home town houses in a golf course setting," says Roe in the minutes of that May 2006 Village Board meeting. "A gated community of upscale seasonal homes" with a golf course, pool and pond.

For the first time, a member of the Hasidic community has confirmed that the Villages of Chestnut Ridge will be a Hasidic development - and he wants to assure Bloomingburg that its residents will be good neighbors.

Joseph Waldman, a leader of the dissident community in Kiryas Joel, called the development "a golden opportunity" for Hasidim in Brooklyn, where rents are steep and apartments are crowded.

When they discovered that the development was already approved and under construction, the Brooklyn residents considered it an "ideal'' place to settle, said Waldman.

He - and members of that Hasidic community - are aware of the controversy often surrounding Kiryas Joel.

"These people (coming to Bloomingburg) are the most law-abiding citizens and never create problems," said Waldman, who was part of an unsuccessful lawsuit to dissolve Kiryas Joel. "They don't want anything to do with KJ.”…

"They (the locals) shouldn't worry. Everything they do, they will do in a peaceful law-abiding way.”…

[Roe] did not say he would be paid $1.4 million when the project was approved — money that was never paid when, in 2009, Lamm sued Roe for some $10 million and their partnership dissolved.

"He had credibility, authority," says Lamm, explaining why he chose Roe to be his front man.…

"The massive, overwhelming inquiries have been from the religious community, and we wanted to prepare for it," [Lamm] said about that proposed school last week, adding no homes have been sold.…

An examination of available official documents and interviews with scores of residents tell a more complex story of how and why the project was approved – a story not only of apparent deception, but also of citizen apathy and, perhaps, the lack of attention of officials.

It begins with Roe, who freely admits he told anyone who would listen that he wanted to be build 125 homes with at least one golf course, even though he had that signed agreement with Lamm for those 400 homes.

Questioned last week, Roe said at first that he didn't really read the contract as well as he should have. He also mentioned how the project changed when the golf course was nixed because of wetlands and endangered species. Plus, even though he only mentioned those 125 homes, he now says, “There was always going to be the expansion (from 125 homes) from Day One. Why would you build a 325,000-gallon sewer plant for just that?”…

The piece goes on to show that Lamm and Roe deceived town officials (except, most likely, for one or two key officials) got the number of houses raised to 395 and didi the deal with Satmar's Zalman faction.

Read the much longer investigative piece here.


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Is Lamm's son Satmar? An ally of Satmar? An opportunist? How did this happen?

Wait'll these pigs open a chicken slaughtering operation with the sewage and rotten chicken waste dumped raw into the sewer system or water supply. Dangerous non-zoning compliant structures, dangerous drivers, disturbing the peace.... All legacies of the rasha ga'mor Joel Teitlebaum (may the son-of-a-whore's name be soon forgotten).

I pray that the good people of Bloomingburg are spared the hell of having these rotten and perverted people invade their town.

Yochanan asked:

Is Lamm's son Satmar? An ally of Satmar? An opportunist? How did this happen?

I answer:

No, he just learned from his father that lots of money and being seated in the place of honor is more important than their fellow human being's welfare. The father smiled in satisfaction as young men were being raped at his institution and the son used deception and dishonesty to bring suffering to the hard working people of Bloomingburg.

The senile father and the high-living son both have a lot to answer for.

RWisler, why are you so pathologically anti-Chassidic? Have you lived among them?

I did - for 20+ years - and most of your ranting is patently false, based on my experience.

I am no longer part of that community (gevezener means "former" in Yiddish) but I really take umbrage at your vicious and mostly false ranting.

Which is not to say that there is nothing to criticize.

Gevezener Chusid --I am also a gevezener chusid and i agree 100 per cent with rwisler he is more then 100 per cent right,and i am an immigrant who lived next to satmar in romania its not only the satmerers i live in bp and a visznitzer neigbor and other hassidik setcs are similar but the satmerers are the pits.

I forgot the reason theese hassidim are so despised is because they make a mockery of the jewish religion and they are mocking civilazation they act like they are it, the world is a joke to them

There is no shortage of anti-Semites here in America, especially when it comes to the Hasidim.

Posted by: Berel | October 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Of course, the Chassidim love everybody who is not like them. They bring it on themselves by their despicable behavior. America is the "medina shel chesed," and the least antisemtic country ever. Israel exists not because of the largely apathetic American Jews, but because of the support of American Christians. But then again, the Chassidim would rather live under Hamas than the "Zionists" (if living under Hamas was possible).

Puts me in mind of an Ogden Nash poem but with less bowing and smiling

The Japanese (1938)

How courteous is the Japanese;
He always says, “Excuse it, please.”
He climbs into his neighbor’s garden,
And smiles, and says, “I beg your pardon”;
He bows and grins a friendly grin,
And calls his hungry family in;
He grins, and bows a friendly bow;
“So sorry, this my garden now.”

Too late for the anti-semites now. Of course if they new it was a Jew project they'd opposed it on some other context than their being anti religious Jews. Now the new community will constitute a majority of the town population and just vote the anti-semites out.

Law abiding?

Except when rioting, beating people up, violating building code, vandalizing, et al.

Posted by: Berel | October 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM

one cannot act like an jerk and worse (KJ) and then when people complain cry anti-antisemitism.
satmar is hated simply because of their unethical behavior and thinking everybody should comply with their wants like the bike lanes

Anti-Satmarism does not equal antisemitism unless you figure most Jews are like the Satmar which is of course patently absurd. They stand out even among the Hasidim for their nasty arrogance. I attended a Jewish camp in Bloomingburg many years ago (too many...) and don't have the least recollection of there being problems with the locals. This assault is something else again. They should incorporate it as a separate political entity so that the long-term residents of the village aren't disenfranchised.

In a way it might turn out for the better no sec.8 medicaid or food stamps for them, lets see how long they will survive there if they have to fend for themselfs.

"They (the locals) shouldn't worry. Everything they do, they will do in a peaceful law-abiding way."

Yep, took over the school board in Ramapo in a perfectly legal manner. They they decimated the public school system.

And anyone who complained was an antisemite.

Apparently no one told them that many years ago the good people of Bloomingburg woke up one morning to find flyers on their doorsteps asking them to join the KKK. Do you suppose the people behind the flyers left after an anti KKK demonstration! Apparently no. That the property was a dumping ground for pig carcasses was also not told. Luckily, the water testing facility is near their property! This town wants to maintain it's rural nature, and will do everything,hing in its powers to keep it that way! Aware of East Ramapo& Lakewood,nj....they are prepared to fight this!

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