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August 22, 2013

Take Down Jesus Statue, Ukraine’s Haredi Chief Rabbi Says

Rabbi Yaakov BleichThe large statue of Jesus on the cross recently erected by Ukrainian locals near the grave of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov in the Ukrainian town of Uman and which was subsequently defaced with anti-Christian Hebrew graffiti, apparently by Breslov hasidim, is a “clear provocation,” Ukraine’s haredi Chief Rabbi Yaakov Bleich said, adding that the statue should be removed.

Rabbi Yaakov Bleich
Rabbi Yaakov Bleich

Take Down Jesus Statue, Ukraine’s Haredi Chief Rabbi Says
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

The large statue of Jesus on the cross recently erected by Ukrainian locals near the grave of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov in the Ukrainian town of Uman and which was subsequently defaced with anti-Christian Hebrew graffiti, apparently by Breslov hasidim, is a “clear provocation,” Ukraine’s haredi Chief Rabbi Yaakov Bleich reportedly said, adding that the statue should be removed.

“Ukraine is not a Jewish country and Ukrainian Jews respect Christian symbols like crosses. However, the cross raised in Uman, in the immediate vicinity of the tomb of Rabbi Nachman, is a clear provocation,” the New York born chief rabbi reportedly told the Ukrainian news site Еvreiskiy.kiev.ua.

Haredim have for years repeatedly spit on and otherwise abused Christian clergy in Jerusalem’s Old City – incidents that were well-publicized worldwide – and routinely spit when passing churches there.

In Uman, hasidim visiting for their annual pilgrimage have repeatedly clashed with non-Jewish locals and have run roughshod over local laws and customs.

The recent Hebrew graffiti defacing the Jesus on the cross statue reads in translation: “To exact vengeance on the gentiles” and “Stop desecrating the name of God.”

Bleich complained that the visiting hasidim “will not be able to pray [at Rabbi Nachman’s grave] this year” because the hated statue is visible. It will stop them from performing the tashlich prayer in which one’s sins are cast into water, Bleich told the JTA, adding that the installation of the statue was not endorsed by the leadership of various Christian churches or by local civil authorities, who he thinks should intervene on behalf of the hasidim.

The statue was ostensibly erected to commemorate the conversion of what is now Ukraine and Russia to Christianity more than 1200 years ago.

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they didn't erect the statue in a shul, did they?
are these morons paving the way to the first pogrom in the 21st century?

Oh My. What an ass.

Would the Rabbi think he would look better on that cross?

do they want the whole world to comply to them they are really starting to piss everybody off in Israel the USA and now the Ukraine.

If these lunatics continue to disrespect their host Ukrainians, soon they'll be refused entry to the country.

Perhaps if they actually behaved in a decent manner in Uman the locals might be more willing to negotiate a solution. More than likely, this statue was erected in response to the bad behavior of the Chassidim and their attempts to claim ownership of the town.

Really, the body of their Rebbe (and the surrounding block of earth) should be excavated and relocated to Israel. Their are Halachic leniences which allow this and it was done when the Gush Kativ Jews were ethnically cleansed from Gaza and graves were relocated.

Don't the Chassidim realise that the Ukrainian peasants are even more backward and primitive than they are and their constant bad behavior is setting the scene for a major pogrom?

these guys are really setting themselves up for a serious ass whoopin'

"Don't insult our dead messiah by honoring your dead messiah."

He's right. How dare Ukrainians erect a statue which imposes on the sensitivity of pilgrims? Especially a statue of someone who actually tried to emphasize the moral values of Judaism, something which these buffoons ignore altogether

Oy vey, Mommy. The goyim are picking on us again.

Ukraine is about a beetle's dick away from pogroms, especially against the Breslovers. Ukraine is a Christian country. What the hell is he hoping to accomplish?

Maybe the Jesus statue will serve as inspiration for their rebbe to come back and challenge Schneerson for the moshiach job.

Allow me to preface by saying that I despise Hassidim. Their morals, values, scent, business ethics and a host of other items.

Regarding this Uman business, allow me to clarify some things. This Rabbi should not be blamed for his PR attempt. He is chief Rabbi of Ukraine and is bored most of the year. He's chief rabbi of a literal shit-hole. The one time a year when people may listen to what he has to say is Jewish New Year time when throngs of disturbed individuals gather in Uman. Uman is a hot topic now for its news content. I'm sure we'll be hearing more from this rabbi.

I don't understand why a cross erected atop a hill overlooking the tashlich ritual should be cause for a relocation. The cross was erected three or four months ago. Why no hoopla then? They had ample time to sort things out.

From where the rabbi is buried, one cannot see the cross. In fact, it's about a ten minute to get to where the cross is standing. A five minute walk to even be able to see the cross. Many of these clowns wear a necklace with the letter of a dead rabbi called the "na nach" letter and they have issue with a cross?! As mister rosenberg is fond of saying... puhleeeeze!!!

Breslov is a disjointed hassidus and one in which disarray is a way of life. I've been attending the rosh hashana festivities for many year and know all in's and outs of what goes on. I admit that i attend as an escape from reality and the boring shuls in the states. I'm not married and see this as a form of vacation. It's fun. I encourage others to check it out in the same way i'd recommend watching a movie or attending a specific festival.

This is my first post in about two years and want to tell all the regulars here that i really enjoy your comments and witty banter. It's great reading and food for thought.

These Chassidim clearly don't have the balls of these Ukrainians. (Do not watch if offended by the use of machinery without using proper protective kit)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af7e-sfdsC0

Maybe the Jesus statue will serve as inspiration for their rebbe to come back and challenge Schneerson for the moshiach job.

reminds me of the celebrity boxing match with Tanya harding and paula jones (original choice was amy fisher - a nice jewish girl from li) I thought it was a promo for Saturday night live. great match - dueling messiahs, deliverance on mandolin and squeeze box and st peterrefs

they should just explain to the ukrainians that the god they (breslovers et al) worship is so jealous and petty that he wont listen to their prayers if theres a geometric shape nearby with 2 perpendicular lines. i'm sure they'll understand. religiously deluded folks tend to be quite reasonable and accomodating...cough cough.

or they can explain that their imaginary sky friend can beat up jesus. this whole thing is like 2 groups fighting over whether a batman mask must be removed before one can properly worship superman.

Barry | August 22, 2013 at 01:16 PM

The Pussy Riot clip is cute. Of course the young lady is prettier than any of all rabbis I know.
A couple of remarks however. The clip seems to be a Russian affair.
Although the maiden with the chainsaw could be jailed, and although she seems totally atheistic, she is not semitic and her and her relatives do not run the risk of being exterminated (even if she did what she did in Ukraine i/o Russia).

And get blamed for crucifying him a second time.

(Thank God the Pussy Riot protester had on goggles).

barry-

thanks for that. the HBO doc on them was good.
its ironic that someone decided its Ok to show her cutting down a religious symbol sacred to billions but not her breasts. that would be too offensive.

maybe if he would help find the perpetrator who desecrated the cross he might get some action.

did he even condemn that action?

It is ONLY a matter of time before the Charedim start making statues of their Holy dead guys. I predict Chabad will be first.

"It is ONLY a matter of time before the Charedim start making statues of their Holy dead guys. I predict Chabad will be first."

They already have portraits.

"It is ONLY a matter of time before the Charedim start making statues of their Holy dead guys. I predict Chabad will be first."

They already have portraits.

Posted by: Jeff | August 22, 2013 at 06:59 PM


I have even seen Rebbe portraits in Chabad shuls - in full view of the people davening there.

Chabad can't make a statue of Shneerson. Don't you know it's rude to make memorial statues of living people? What if he doesn't like it? Then he'll take even longer to return.
Plus, it's against halachah to make graven images of gods. Especially one as holy as the Rebbe. That's why they use photos instead....or maybe it's because they're too cheap to pay for artists and sculptors

The portraits of Shneerson are creepy. When my girlfriend became a BT, she moved in with 3 other Chabad girls. I counted 10 frames pics of the rebbi in the apartment including a huge pic above each bed. My hubby wanted to know what happened when they married - if the rebbi would watch over the relations.

That being said, when in Rome respect the Romans, who are catholic and have crosses above the grave. You may not like it but you have to respect it. An utter embarrassment to normal jews


Ukraine is a very anti-Semite country and also has very bad soccer teams. They can make up for their Jew hatred by being Shabbos Goys for the Shabbos after Rosh Hashana.

Zayin, there are two cool fun event in September, one is Rosh Hashana in Uman and Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco. Hard to choose which one to go.

"one is Rosh Hashana in Uman and Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco. Hard to choose which one to go"

No contest - gay people respect others' property and clean up after themselves.

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