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August 18, 2013

Haredi Thugs Threaten, Harass Haredi Leader Over Alleged Graves Desecration

Rabbi Moishe Sternbuch 2Haredim associated with the Edah Haredit subsidiary Asra Kadish allegedly harassed and threatened the head of Edah’s biet din (religious court) Rabbi Moshe Shternbuch, prompting the first response from any Edah Haredit leaders to the week of riots by Asra Kadisha in the Jerusalem bedroom suburb of Beit Shemesh.

Rabbi Moishe Sternbuch 2
Rabbi Moshe Sternbuch

Updated 9:20 am CDT 8-19-2013

Haredim Thugs Threaten, Harass Haredi Leader Over Alleged Graves Desecration
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

Haredim associated with the Edah Haredit subsidiary Asra Kadish allegedly harassed and threatened the head of Edah’s biet din (religious court) Rabbi Moshe Shternbuch, prompting the first response from any Edah Haredit leaders to the week of riots by Asra Kadisha in the Jerusalem bedroom suburb of Beit Shemesh.

The harassment took place after that week of rioting failed to stop construction.

Asra Kadisha, which fancies itself as an organization that protects ancient Jewish graves, claims ancient Jewish graves are being desecrated at the site.

Shternbuch previously ruled the construction was not desecrating ancient Jewish graves and could continue – a position that is also held by many non-Edah haredi rabbis.

But many other Edah Haredi rabbis, including its Chief Rabbi Yitzchok Tuvia Weiss, either disagree or have remained silent.

Rabbi Amram Ofman and Rabbi Simcha Hanun, who are both prominent in Edah Haredit (although not in its most senior leadership), came out strongly against the Asra Kadisha rioters this week, Arutz Sheva reported – but only after Shternbuch was threatened and harassed.

Ofman reportedly publicly condemned the riots in a letter that accused the Asra Kadish rioters of “taking the law into their hands and making a mockery of the Torah.” He also reportedly wrote that anyone who says there are Jewish graves at the Beit Shemesh site are lying because “there are no graves at the [Beit Shemesh construction] site.…

"There is a disagreement between the wise men of the generation, and kings are holding discussions with each other,” he wrote. “What do we care? This matter is up for them, and only them, to decide. It is, therefore, my duty to write a protest over the fact that our rabbi, the Minister of Torah, the Head of the Beit Din[,] shlita[,] is being defamed. This is an unforgivable crime, and he who defames a great scholar will rot in hell,” Ofman wrote.

Asra Kadisha allegedly extorts both developers and archaeologists, protesting alleged graves desecration but stopping their protests after being paid off by developers and, sometimes, by archaeologists. The organization also physically threatens its targets and occasionally uses violence against them, as it allegedly did less than two weeks ago when a gang of thugs allegedly associated with Asra Kadisha savagely beat the elderly developer of the Beit Shemesh project. leaving him hospitalized.

Police made approximately 40 arrests of Asra Kadisha rioters at the Beit Shemesh construction site last week alone.

Even so, Israel’s police and courts have done little over the years to reign in Asra Kadisha or to punish its violent members.

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As I have said before....savages. And now they are turning on each other. What do their leaders expect?

You raise people to respect NO authority; you teach them that violence is how to settle disputes...and then you are surprised when they turn on the sect/leaders that raised them to live like this?

Savages. Unfit to live in ANY civilized society.

RJB-

good point.

RJB-
Good points.
These thugs are thugs are righteous in their eyes only.
Yesher Koach to the Rabbis who have courage to speak publicly against the thugs, putting themselves and families at risk for violent attacks.

Tough guys - harassing greybeards. A person could recruit a dozen kids on any street corner in Brooklyn outside the Orthodox and Haredi areas who could go over there with baseball bats and clean up the lot of these Asra a-holes and all the others in very short order. Would be a mitzvah to do it, too.

+++esher Koach to the Rabbis who have courage to speak publicly against the thugs, putting themselves and families at risk for violent attacks.

Posted by: Bas Melech+++

i wouldnt go that far. they are part of the leadership of the group which is itself extreme , terroristic and violent. they arent speaking out now due to their courage but out of abject fear. the lawless monsters they helped create are becoming uncontrollable. its more like the owner of a pitbull that has trained his dog to be highly aggressive and now the dog has begun to snarl and snap even at him. so he raises his hand at the dog to try to show him he's still the master. no kudos are deserved.
i didnt hear a peep out of any of them until one of their own was threatened.

As Eidah Charedeit Rabbis go R Sternbuch is a good guy.

He has clearly ruled that if a parent suspects that a child has been abused the parent must go directly to the authorities.

Don't ask your rabbi, don't go to a Beit din, but go straight to the police or social services etc. this applies in Israel or the US.

Jake –

He did NOT rule that if you suspect abuse, you should call police.

I exposed Sternbuch's BS years ago.

Shmarya
Your information is years old.

No, Jake, it is not.

Perhaps if you used your head – something you rarely do – and looked, you'd see that.

Rabbi Sternbach is the odd man out of the badatz, from his refusing to have his wife covering her head when he joined the badatz ( she was wearing a shaitel) to the times that he, Shmarya and UOJ brought down Tropper the Shtuper.

He is reasonable and moderate compared to other lunatics of the Badatz but to call him a good man is way out of line....

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