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ZW stop this stupidity already. Are you just looking for some attention!' Please read the posts on this (your favorite site) start a breakaway minyan leave the childish stupidity to others Your weekly leaks to FM is getting sick.
Posted by: put a square into a hole | August 03, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Joseph, Every time an article on this topic is posted someone asks the same question. Take a look at the other articles for the answer. Aside from that, the fact that you would expect the victim to retreat and cave into the evil in this community and the bullying from this sick individual is troublesome.
Posted by: singlemalt | August 03, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Here he is again !!!
He is like a lump of dry shit that when it gets poked starts smelling up the place.
Potz!! Go elsewhere!
Singlemalt, he is not a victim. His son(s) yes,for a variety of reasons, but ZW? You gotta be kidding. ZW is an attention seeker and a parasite to boot.
It's really sickening how he is always complaining on how he is being treated.
You are not wanted, nor liked, ZW, go away!!
Don't you get that loud and clear message?
Posted by: Orion | August 03, 2013 at 11:06 PM
Wow, the sickos pop up like the moles in the arcade game "Whac-A-Mole". One disappears and one pops right up! Crawl back into your pathetic sick hole "put a square...".
Posted by: singlemalt | August 03, 2013 at 11:11 PM
Awwww, feeling intimidated little man?
Because some people doesn't see things as you do, that makes them a mole?
You must be related to ZW !!
Please, post a picture of yourself on here... probably look a lot like him.
Posted by: Orion | August 03, 2013 at 11:28 PM
Orion, Curious what your view is of the situation there.
Posted by: Bob Greene | August 03, 2013 at 11:41 PM
Orion, I think readers of this site have worked out who the "lump(s) of...shit" are. But I understand your frustration. Defending the cesspool that Yeshivah Centre Melbourne is being exposed as is becoming more and more difficult. But keep trying. Your comments reveal very clearly what's wrong with the place.
Posted by: Emanuel Newgant | August 03, 2013 at 11:42 PM
Orion, I don't know Mr. Waks but have been following the chillul Hashem that uneducated Chabad boors like yourself are making. I can tell you one thing, if you pulled that kind of crap on me in shul, I'd pull you out back and give you the beating your father never did. You little punk.
Posted by: singlemalt | August 03, 2013 at 11:54 PM
Welcome the the mental asylum that is Melbourne and Sydney. You don't have to look very hard to see insanity everywhere, but most people are happy to stick their heads in the sand and carry on regardless.
Molesters can doven in shule but not victims' families. Let's see what the Vaad Haruchni do. Please pass the sand.
Posted by: Edith | August 04, 2013 at 01:13 AM
Hi Bob,
One can tell when one is right by the response they receive.
Take Singlemalt, who must be a sot, and Emannuel Newgant,who is probably ZW.
Their come back with their drivel is so poor and vulgar that it begs the question if they are in fact sane individuals.
You see, I don't pull crap on anyone, SMalt and in any case for you to take me out the back and give me a beating, well you would have gotten lessons on how to do that from ZW, but let me assure that I am big and strong enough to give you a hiding.
But this ain't gonna happen so why dwell on it.
Bob, the situation is simple, ZW is a despised person because of his parasitical persona. Instead of being silent he persists in being out there and confrontational. It has absolutely nothing to do with what his sons went through and the justice they seek.
ZW has been like that from Bereshit.
That's it.
Smalt. How is going to the media and presenting his crap on here not a chilul Hashem?
Edith, I am not a subscriber to the vaad ruchni, they don't represent me, so I make no comment regarding them.
Posted by: Orion | August 04, 2013 at 02:05 AM
Orion, so if some people don't like ZW for whatever reason, then it's ok to nudge and push him in shmona esrah? Idiot.
Posted by: Edith | August 04, 2013 at 02:20 AM
No Edith. I didn't say that.
Does the word intelligent mean anything to you?
Calling me names doesn't make you look good. People who descend to that level are those who have nothing constructive to offer and out of frustration they resort to name calling.
You are a perfect example of that, as are a few other here.
If you can't conduct an intelligent conversation then you continue with your insults and name calling. I am not interested.
Posted by: Orion | August 04, 2013 at 03:40 AM
No Edith. I didn't say that.
Does the word intelligent mean anything to you?
Calling me names doesn't make you look good. People who descend to that level are those who have nothing constructive to offer and out of frustration they resort to name calling.
You are a perfect example of that, as are a few other here.
If you can't conduct an intelligent conversation then you continue with your insults and name calling. I am not interested.
Posted by: Orion | August 04, 2013 at 03:41 AM
You want to see how intelligent Orion is, just look at this post that he wrote on a different thread:
Hey! Did you know that ZW wears no underpants? His beard is there only to disguise his true self, and he definitely is no chassid.
Just changing the subject, but unfortunately it is still about him :(
OY!! Where's the aerosol????
Posted by: Orion | July 29, 2013 at 12:28 AM
Posted by: singlemalt | August 04, 2013 at 04:18 AM
Orion, even if you repeat yourself, you did say that. The post is about ZW getting elbowed by someone and if that is a good thing or bad thing. You said nothing about that and instead put the boot into ZW. Have a look at what you wrote. Calling you an idiot is an insult to real idiots. Can't even call you a moron or embicile as they are smarter that idiots.
Tell us more about ZW undies, idiot.
Posted by: Edith | August 04, 2013 at 04:31 AM
This event took place in March?
Posted by: rebitzman - $101 to read my posts | August 04, 2013 at 07:36 AM
As the post says, there were TWO events, one in march, one on this past Shabbos morning.
Posted by: Shmarya Rosenberg | August 04, 2013 at 07:52 AM
by now, I would say that he is an idiot and asked for it!
I think mr Vaks should realize by now that chabad of Australia is a treife place where normal people have nothing to look for.
Posted by: Yosef ben Matitya | August 04, 2013 at 08:41 AM
To Mr. ZW:
You are a baal tshuvah. Chabad never has, and never will, accept you as one of their own kind, no matter how hard you have tried over the years. They have always ridiculed you behind your back, as they do with all baal tshuvahs.
You made the penultimate sacrifice in the name of acceptance by that group- you gave up your freedom to think, to live and make decisions like a normal person, and you had many children and turned all of them over to the evil education system known as Chabad.
Chabad/Lubavitch is your enemy. While part of me applauds your insistence on standing your ground (you'll pardon the expression), you need to decide "do I want to be right, or do I want to be happy?".
Go away from that evil place. Start your own minyan. Or better yet, you need to take a look deep inside yourself and realize that you have been living a lifestyle based upon beliefs that are false. God does not want us to wear ridiculous clothes from 18th century Eastern Europe. God does not need you to grow a ridiculous beard, or most of the other idiotic 'customs' of Lubavitch.
Free your mind, and the rest will follow. I wish you nothing but the best in your quest for spiritual and physical freedom and justice.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | August 04, 2013 at 09:57 AM
+++Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | August 04, 2013 at 09:57 AM+++
Beautifully said, Wool.
Posted by: David | August 04, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Thanks David, and best regards.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | August 04, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Mr Waks
Put a few thumbtacks on the seat next to you. I'm sure the bully would love to spend shabbat yanking your little messages out of his tuches.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | August 04, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Many years ago, when I was a student in a Chabad yeshiva in Israel, I remember how a mob of Chabad thugs assaulted a young man named Avraham Leader, the son of a very respect Modern Orthodox LA Rabbi, along with several of his friends for the crime of studying Bratzlav Hassidut in the after hours. Someone stabbed his head (really!) with a knife on Shabbat because of his heresy.
BTW, nobody was ever punished for the event. Avraham left the yeshiva and went to ITRY in Jerusalem. My only personal regret was that I did not join him.
The one responsible eventually became a leading Chabad Shiliach in San Diego, before he went someplace else. If I were ZW, I would definitely have left the Chabad movement years ago.
The movement unfortunately has very little to show for its lack of humanity. Conformity and kissing the ass of the Rebbe and Alter Hasidim are considered their highest values.
They do not worship God, but they do worship a man named Schnersohn.
Chabad is a cult, and it is time that thinking and ethical people stop supporting their organizations.
The time has come for us to put an end to the insanity caused by Chabadanity.
Posted by: Chicago Sam | August 04, 2013 at 03:01 PM
As my friend Wooly correctly put it, it is time for ZW to take this experience as a message from Above, for him to find a new and healthy spiritual space to worship.
Kudos go to Wooly.
Posted by: Chicago Sam | August 04, 2013 at 03:03 PM
If my kid was abused...
I would be very humble and bow my head and say in effect "yes master, yes boss"
At the same time I would hire thugs that know how to thump
and wonder what happened ( out loud )that someone finally makes it to shul after weeks in the hospital missing teeth etc.
Yes sir i would get me a golem
Posted by: Isa | August 04, 2013 at 06:03 PM
While WSC's comments are well-meant, if Waks leaves, who will take the fight up to Yeshivah Centre to help root out the other pedos and enablers there? Just his presence there gives them a headache. As long as he can take it, good luck to him.
Posted by: Emanuel Newgant | August 04, 2013 at 06:48 PM
Chaim Glick....errrr....I mean Orion....
You are pathetic....
Posted by: Aussie | August 04, 2013 at 09:23 PM
EM or ZW whatever your real name is, If ZW leaves the shul for another, he doesn't have to give up his fight. In todays day and age ZW and family can go back to benai brak from where they came and fight from there. The Zohar family will accept them anytime.
Posted by: put a square into a hole | August 04, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Aussie! I'm pathetic? that's so laughable coming from you. Chaim Glick? is he who I am?
Well then, lucky Chaim.... he could have been accused of being you.
You need medical attention, and I mean that in a very kind and caring way. Go and see a psychiatrist and follow his instructions very carefully.. There is yet hope for you.
Posted by: Orion | August 04, 2013 at 11:05 PM
From other blogs it seems the recent 'attack' may have been an accidental push.
Posted by: Edith | August 05, 2013 at 12:33 AM
EM/ZW, I agree with Put a Square 11:03. A much more effective campaign nowadays can be waged through the media, internet, protest demonstrations, etc. Those protests can be held in front of the Australian Embassy in Israel, too. Retain a publicist. Start a website. Learn how to target an audience.
Become acquainted with reporters from newspapers and news websites in that area. You can submit essays to them for publication on their editorial/opinion pages.
If you continue to attend that evil synagogue, things can only escalate. Someone will be tempted to bring a weapon with them to shul, an altercation will occur, and two more lives will be ruined.
Is G-d present in that shul? If you were G-d, would you accept prayers from such an evil congregation?
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | August 05, 2013 at 07:55 AM
What happened to Isaac Balbin's post about this affair in Shul?
It seems to have disappeared from his blog!
Posted by: Bobby Basrah | August 05, 2013 at 08:58 AM
God told Moshe to separate himself from such a wicked congregation.
Posted by: Chicago Sam | August 05, 2013 at 01:39 PM
Chicago Sam, indeed.
And thanks for the 3:03 above.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton; I must be seen to be believed | August 05, 2013 at 04:19 PM
what the hell is the matter with you people, its about time that kids should be allowed to grow up and stay innocent instead of being abused by sickos and then having people like Telsner and others allow him to be beaten in shul, shame on you sickos and it would not surprise me if your heads are on the block soon. SEXUAL ABUSE HAS HAPPENED AND THE VICTIMS ARE ENTITLED TO GET JUSTICE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN LEAVE BUT DONT YOU DARE STOP THE VICTIMS FROM GETTING JUSTICE OR YOU ARE AS BAD AS THE ABUSERS IN FACT WORSE!!!
Posted by: debz | January 31, 2015 at 01:52 PM