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August 17, 2013

Breslov Hasidim Allegedly Deface Statue Of Jesus On The Cross, Ukrainian Observers Fear Retalitory Violence

Breslov KippaA statue of Jesus on the cross in Uman, Ukraine, reportedly erected to honor the 1,025th anniversary of the mass conversion to Christianity of the medieval Kingdom of Kievan Rus, was defaced with inflammatory Hebrew-language graffiti late last week, apparently by hasidim who had come to celebrate Rosh HaShana at the grave of the founder of the Breslov hasidic movement, Rabbi Nachman of Breslov.

 

Breslov Hasidim Allegedly Defaced Statue Of Jesus On The Cross, Ukrainian Observers Fear Retalitory Violence
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

A statue of Jesus on the cross in Uman, Ukraine, reportedly erected to honor the 1,025th anniversary of the mass conversion to Christianity of the medieval Kingdom of Kievan Rus, was defaced with inflammatory Hebrew-language graffiti late last week, apparently by hasidim who had come to celebrate Rosh HaShana at the grave of the founder of the Breslov hasidic movement, Rabbi Nachman of Breslov, according to a JTA report.

“To exact vengeance on the gentiles” and “Stop desecrating the name of God” was painted across the statue’s body.

The statue is reportedly located across from Rabbi Nachman’s burial site.

Three years ago, hasidim visiting Uman for their annual Rosh HaShana pilgrimage rioted after two local non-Jewish men were allegedly caught stealing by hasidim. Hundreds of hasidim fought with police. Calm was restored only when two uniformed Israeli policeman who had come with the pilgrimage interceded. Also that year, a drunken hasid stabbed a non-Jewish local allegedly caught stealing.

In 2009, hasidim rioted when police tried to shut down unlicensed food stalls that also violated local health codes. A police officer was bitten by a hasid and television news cameras were smahed by hasidim during the melee.

Local non-Jewish residents have long complained about the annual influx of hasidim who, they say, strew their town with trash, ignore local laws, damage apartments they’ve rented, make large amounts of noise late into the night, and otherwise run roughshod of the locals.

In return, Breslov leaders have pointed to anti-Semitism, rather than hasidic malfeasance, as the root of locals’ dissatisfaction with Breslov.

Hasidic publicly leaders asked locals to move the statue.

“We respect other religions, and don’t wish to damage symbols of other religions. But, unfortunately, not all of our coreligionists understand this. They could break or destroy the cross. That would lead to a genuine war between hasidim and Christians. We cannot allow that, so we request that the cross be moved to a different location,” Shimon Busquila of the Rabbi Nachman International Fund reportedly told the Russian news site Korrespondent.ru.

Uman’s deputy mayor also reportedly asked locals to move the statue.

They refused.

Breslov has taken some steps to reduce points of friction with locals and to control the behavior of those hasidim who come on the pilgrimage.

But this newest point of friction may make that moot.

“If they touch the cross, we will retaliate on the grave of their tzaddik,” a non-Jewish Ukrainian local reportedly told the Vzglyad newspaper.

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Hmmm...

."...Local non-Jewish residents have long complained about the ... hasidim who, they say, strew their town with trash, ignore local laws, damage apartments they’ve rented, make large amounts of noise late into the night, and otherwise run roughshod of the locals..."

Ukraine or Monsey, did anyone note..or maybe Jerusalem? Sounds mighty familiar.

These are not Ukrainian citizens, right? Let Ukraine refuse the Breslovers admission and be done with them, boors that they are.

+++“If they touch the cross, we will retaliate on the grave of their tzaddik,” a non-Jewish Ukrainian local reportedly told the Vzglyad newspaper.+++

seems like a predictable retaliation. why cant the breslovers foresee this? or do they assume their dead rebbe or god will somehow prevent this?

the Vzglyad newspaper should spend $250 and buy a vowel .

As a reader to the JTA suggested, why not rebury Rabbi Nachman's remains in Israel?

What exactly is being alleged ? That the status was defaced or the the perpetuators were Breslov?

On another note, I once was on the bus in Israel and the cute girl next to me was reading the Tikun Klali ( Breslov text for masturbators), I looked at her eyes and thought if she has this issue it could be the beginning of beautiful friendship....

Don't these ignorant peasants realize that in a backwards sh*thole like the Ukraine this could lead to a full scale pogrom, just like back in the day?

Apart from that, don't they realize how utterly inappropriate it is to attack the icons of someone else's religion?

David, they would see a pogrom as validation of everything they've been taught about the real world

Oh, that's right. It's nearly time for the annual Trash Uman Festival. The Ukranians must be thrilled.

"Apart from that, don't they realize how utterly inappropriate it is to attack the icons of someone else's religion?"

Oh, David! Seriously?

The fanatical Breslovers are the trailer park trash of the Jewish people. The Ukranians, if they haven't already, need to sit down and figure out how much money they bring into the economy each year, vs. the cost of cleanup and repair afterward. I strongly suspect they'll find they're lucky if they break even.

just plain stupid...
they come to pray...
they come to hopefully be holy...
they act like a bunch of wayward schoolboys with real mental
problems...
so sad and disappointing...
hopefully my anger will not surface...

If their that not happy about the situation why rent out their homes to them obviously they are gaining more then losing. And kid yourself not the Ukrainians are not really best of friends to the Jews.

P.S @jeff. Very original on your part to copy paste word for word what a reader commented on the JTA website

"P.S @jeff. Very original on your part to copy paste word for word what a reader commented on the JTA website"

Look at the timestamps, genius. That was me.

You really are a goddamn idiot.

James Deen LOL! Very Woody Allenesque

It's entirely possible that some Ukrainian antisemites did this.

"..James Deen LOL! Very Woody Allenesque..."

Well, very woody at least.....

SkepticalYid - Any time a Jew does something bad we hear this lame, threadbare excuse "It wasn't us. It was an antisemite who made it look like a Jew did it."

i, for one, am all for it

Ukrainian Observers Fear Retalitory Violence

should one say that 'they asked for it'?
they would be lucky if the only retaliation is Ukrainian nationalists merely spitting on the na. na.. na... grave, or on some of their ugly faces.

Posted by: anuran | August 18, 2013 at 09:00 AM

Please, you know I'm not an apologist for Haredim. In this case it wouldn't surprise me if a Ukrainian Gentle was responsible. They were, and remain, virulent antisemites.

if a Ukrainian Gentle was responsible. They were, and remain, virulent antisemites.

not really, skeptical. this is written in decent flowing cursive modern Hebrew.
the fact that Ukrainian gentiles could be virulent etc... doesn't teach them Hebrew.

SkepticalYid
if u haven't seen yet the picture in the JTA link provided, check it out and tell us your honest opinion on the chance that a gentile skin head defaced the statue:

http://www.jta.org/2013/08/16/news-opinion/world/hasidim-deface-cross-in-uman-stirring-up-local-controversy

Ruthie,
Help me understand what you wrote here,k?

"so sad and disappointing...
hopefully my anger will not surface..."

What will happen if your anger "will surface"?

Will you do something bad? To other people, to yourself?


This was despicable. If they really wanted to effectively promote their claim that
G-d is a Unity and not a trinity (which I absolutely agree with them that G-d is a Unity) they could have peacefully walked around with signs in Ukranian and Hebrew. But no, they had to deface a statue. Really bright, guys. Way to shoot yourselves in the foot.

It's funny they object to the Christians worshipping a dead guy but the very reason they are in Uman is to.....worship a dead guy....

"Local non-Jewish residents have long complained about the annual influx of hasidim who, they say, strew their town with trash, ignore local laws, damage apartments they’ve rented, make large amounts of noise late into the night, and otherwise run roughshod of the locals."

Just like frumma communities everywhere, then....

"It's funny they object to the Christians worshipping a dead guy but the very reason they are in Uman is to.....worship a dead guy...."

"Like"!

they could have peacefully walked around with signs in Ukranian and Hebrew.

I am not sure, Dave.
Imagine Ukrainian skinheads will conduct peaceful marches to protest the killing of their Christ in Yavneel of Breslov in Galilee.
Such peacefull protests wouldn't be tolerated in Singapore. :-)

looks like they really want to start a fight. Unfortunately they will most likely get one and fortunately they will get the shit kicked out of them.

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