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August 17, 2013

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old time brooklyn

looks like they really want to start a fight. Unfortunately they will most likely get one and fortunately they will get the shit kicked out of them.

Yosef ben Matitya

they could have peacefully walked around with signs in Ukranian and Hebrew.

I am not sure, Dave.
Imagine Ukrainian skinheads will conduct peaceful marches to protest the killing of their Christ in Yavneel of Breslov in Galilee.
Such peacefull protests wouldn't be tolerated in Singapore. :-)

Jeff

"It's funny they object to the Christians worshipping a dead guy but the very reason they are in Uman is to.....worship a dead guy...."

"Like"!

David

"Local non-Jewish residents have long complained about the annual influx of hasidim who, they say, strew their town with trash, ignore local laws, damage apartments they’ve rented, make large amounts of noise late into the night, and otherwise run roughshod of the locals."

Just like frumma communities everywhere, then....

David

It's funny they object to the Christians worshipping a dead guy but the very reason they are in Uman is to.....worship a dead guy....

Dave Marshall

This was despicable. If they really wanted to effectively promote their claim that
G-d is a Unity and not a trinity (which I absolutely agree with them that G-d is a Unity) they could have peacefully walked around with signs in Ukranian and Hebrew. But no, they had to deface a statue. Really bright, guys. Way to shoot yourselves in the foot.

jimmyInBkln

Ruthie,
Help me understand what you wrote here,k?

"so sad and disappointing...
hopefully my anger will not surface..."

What will happen if your anger "will surface"?

Will you do something bad? To other people, to yourself?


Yosef ben Matitya

SkepticalYid
if u haven't seen yet the picture in the JTA link provided, check it out and tell us your honest opinion on the chance that a gentile skin head defaced the statue:

http://www.jta.org/2013/08/16/news-opinion/world/hasidim-deface-cross-in-uman-stirring-up-local-controversy

Yosef ben Matitya

if a Ukrainian Gentle was responsible. They were, and remain, virulent antisemites.

not really, skeptical. this is written in decent flowing cursive modern Hebrew.
the fact that Ukrainian gentiles could be virulent etc... doesn't teach them Hebrew.

SkepticalYid

Posted by: anuran | August 18, 2013 at 09:00 AM

Please, you know I'm not an apologist for Haredim. In this case it wouldn't surprise me if a Ukrainian Gentle was responsible. They were, and remain, virulent antisemites.

Yosef ben Matitya

Ukrainian Observers Fear Retalitory Violence

should one say that 'they asked for it'?
they would be lucky if the only retaliation is Ukrainian nationalists merely spitting on the na. na.. na... grave, or on some of their ugly faces.

ira

i, for one, am all for it

anuran

SkepticalYid - Any time a Jew does something bad we hear this lame, threadbare excuse "It wasn't us. It was an antisemite who made it look like a Jew did it."

S M L

"..James Deen LOL! Very Woody Allenesque..."

Well, very woody at least.....

SkepticalYid

It's entirely possible that some Ukrainian antisemites did this.

Account Deleted

James Deen LOL! Very Woody Allenesque

Jeff

"P.S @jeff. Very original on your part to copy paste word for word what a reader commented on the JTA website"

Look at the timestamps, genius. That was me.

You really are a goddamn idiot.

VoiceoftruthOf

If their that not happy about the situation why rent out their homes to them obviously they are gaining more then losing. And kid yourself not the Ukrainians are not really best of friends to the Jews.

P.S @jeff. Very original on your part to copy paste word for word what a reader commented on the JTA website

ruthie

just plain stupid...
they come to pray...
they come to hopefully be holy...
they act like a bunch of wayward schoolboys with real mental
problems...
so sad and disappointing...
hopefully my anger will not surface...

Jeff

Oh, that's right. It's nearly time for the annual Trash Uman Festival. The Ukranians must be thrilled.

"Apart from that, don't they realize how utterly inappropriate it is to attack the icons of someone else's religion?"

Oh, David! Seriously?

The fanatical Breslovers are the trailer park trash of the Jewish people. The Ukranians, if they haven't already, need to sit down and figure out how much money they bring into the economy each year, vs. the cost of cleanup and repair afterward. I strongly suspect they'll find they're lucky if they break even.

anuran

David, they would see a pogrom as validation of everything they've been taught about the real world

David

Don't these ignorant peasants realize that in a backwards sh*thole like the Ukraine this could lead to a full scale pogrom, just like back in the day?

Apart from that, don't they realize how utterly inappropriate it is to attack the icons of someone else's religion?

Manuel Ferrara

What exactly is being alleged ? That the status was defaced or the the perpetuators were Breslov?

On another note, I once was on the bus in Israel and the cute girl next to me was reading the Tikun Klali ( Breslov text for masturbators), I looked at her eyes and thought if she has this issue it could be the beginning of beautiful friendship....

rocky

As a reader to the JTA suggested, why not rebury Rabbi Nachman's remains in Israel?

ah-pee-chorus

the Vzglyad newspaper should spend $250 and buy a vowel .

ah-pee-chorus

+++“If they touch the cross, we will retaliate on the grave of their tzaddik,” a non-Jewish Ukrainian local reportedly told the Vzglyad newspaper.+++

seems like a predictable retaliation. why cant the breslovers foresee this? or do they assume their dead rebbe or god will somehow prevent this?

S M L

Hmmm...

."...Local non-Jewish residents have long complained about the ... hasidim who, they say, strew their town with trash, ignore local laws, damage apartments they’ve rented, make large amounts of noise late into the night, and otherwise run roughshod of the locals..."

Ukraine or Monsey, did anyone note..or maybe Jerusalem? Sounds mighty familiar.

These are not Ukrainian citizens, right? Let Ukraine refuse the Breslovers admission and be done with them, boors that they are.

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