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July 03, 2013

Updated With More Shocking Video: Scandal-Plagued Haredi-Controlled School Board Reaches New Low

Christopher KirbyChristopher Kirby (right), an attorney for the scandal-plagued, haredi-controlled and almost certainly corrupt East Ramapo school board, baits, smirks at and insults a parent who is politely addressing the board during a public meeting, telling them about her special needs son who is a student. After the meeting, Kirby threatens to fight one parent and calls the parent who spoke in the meeting a "cunt." Kirby's behavior is truly atrocious – and so is the behavior of the haredi-controlled school board.

 

Watch the whole video. The behavior of Chris Kirby, an attorney for the scandal-plagued, haredi-controlled and almost certainly corrupt East Ramapo school board, is atrocious, especially during the last minute or so of the video.

He is insulting, baiting, threatening and rude to a parent who is politely addressing the board during a public meeting.

(Yes, that parent is also an activist working to end the haredi reign over East Ramapo's schools, but she is being polite, is well-spoken, and is not agitating or ranting and raving when Kirby starts to bait her.)

But more than that, the haredi and Orthodox board members and their two non-Jewish proxies sit there and do nothing to intercede.

These people are truly, truly beneath contempt. This, my friends, is haredi Judaism and New York State Rockland County corruption laid bare for all to see:

 

Update 7:42 pm CDT – After the meeting in the parking lot, Kirby called a parent a "cunt" and challenged another parent to a fight:

 

Related Post: Attorney For Scandal-Plagued Haredi-Controlled School Board Shouts Profanities At Student And Activist.

[Hat Tips: Ruthie, Jake, etc.]

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After reading all available accounts of this on various news wires, I stand with Ms. Hatton ! For the Board not to admonish the attorney during the meeting for his grotesque behavior is an abomination. For the Board not to immediately fire the firm after the "parking lot" incident , a travesty. For the Board President to say today that the Board will hold a special meeting to discuss the latter but makes no mention of the former shows just how insincere this clueless, undereducated buffoon is. Not that this illiterate dweeb actually wrote his own press release. What a a complete embarrassment this Board is to the community.

So, Ms. Hattan,I stand with you.

Luke.

This needs to be on one of the NY TV stations' evening news. What a total freaking asshole - and the Haredim are just as bad for allowing it. They have no morals and no standards.

Only in Rockland...

Be sure you view the "parking lot" video that occurred after the meeting. You can find it on You Tube. It is truly disgusting. The attorney appears to have Roid Rage, big time.

I stand with Ms. Hatton!

Luke.

Let Google do its magic. FM is on the top level of the search results, beating out NY Daily News and JN.

I bet you that this will have national and international coverage by Thursday morning.

The video will have gone viral and will garner 100k's of views. He will lose EVERYTHING!!

Moshe:

It has already taken off and is being covered by all major NYC media outlets. Once in the NYC arena the next stop is international.

My question is, even if Europe and Asia react, will Albany?

I stand with Ms. Hutton !

Luke.

And in defense of Peggy Hatton, you have to watch this video. She is poised, professional, articulate, and knowledgeable.

If anything, this incident will catapult her activism and raise her profile.

Mom in East Ramapo altercation: 'I feel abused' http://www.lohud.com/videonetwork/2525152623001

Great going Peggy!!

BTW, this all could have been avoided if all of you would have listened to me a few months back and put Gestetner up for one of the vacant Board seats. The clueless dweeb would have been referring to people as schvartzes all this time and thus inciting riots. That would have left little opportunity for the attorney to act up. I guess we learn from our mistakes.

Luke.

I stand with Ms. Hattan !

Isn't a kirby a small cucumber?

Hatton. D@mn autocorrect

"Isn't a kirby a small cucumber?"

Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | July 03, 2013 at 05:47 PM

Phenomenal ! I guess "we" are compensating for something. :)

Luke.

I stand with Ms. Hatton !

Wow. If she files a grievance against the Atty, it will be interesting.

ABC NEWS carried it on the evening news.

absurd!
For the Board President to say today that the Board will hold a special meeting to discuss this!!! c'mon they're not going to have a meeting for the benefit of this lovely woman.

this is just unreal.
and they just sat there and did nothing. so typical monsey.
MRS. HATTEN - warm hugs.
that lawyer should be fired. but the haredim are probably applauding their attorney...they don't like her because she stands for JUSTICE
FOR THE STUDENTS OF EAST RAMAPO.

luke,
ABC NEWS covered the parking lot most of all.

luke,
ABC NEWS covered the parking lot most of all.

Posted by: ruthie | July 03, 2013 at 06:13 PM

Ruthie:

I missed the six o'clock hour. Hopefully, it's on at eleven. BTW, I love when you get riled up :)

Luke.

I stand with Ms. Hatton !

luke,
I was in one of the kosher stores today and one of the jewish workers
needed a cart/pulley moved. it was in the way of the customers true. the hispanic man was working down the aisle stocking shelves...LUKE!! i was shocked....he clapped his hands stomach level
at the guy to call him. as.if.he.was.calling.an.animal.
i was so embarrassed for this hispanic worker.
who the fuck do they think they are??????
i always try to find a good side but they're so full of entitlement it's mind boggling.

i always try to find a good side but they're so full of entitlement it's mind boggling.

Posted by: ruthie | July 03, 2013 at 06:27 PM

Ruthie:

It's their Pavlovian conditioning which starts at birth and continues for 120 years. If the rav says it, it is true. I have witnessed similar interaction with janitorial staff at their school and at construction sites. There is no value in people other than their own. The South Americans truly suffer. Be it a janitor at a school, a cleaning "girl" or a day laborer. The worker is dependent on the low wage so he/she accepts the indignity. Meanwhile the worker thinks this representative of all Jews.

Luke.

I stand with Ms. Hatton !

the hasidim had this planned for mrs. hatten. they own that lawyer. he's probably getting more than his salary under the table and after this will probably receive a bonus.

for the readers of this blog that don't know:
mrs. hatten is a very articulate and well known advocate who often speaks out in favor of the students of east ramapo.
she is a lady and there is NO excuse to what occurred at that meeting. but truly it's a PERFECT example of how monsey works. pure perfection.

Peggy, we all have your back. NY stands behind you. No one deserves to be called vulgar names and this was the worst name he could have used.

I know this will not deter you and will make you even stronger in your fight to help public school children.

Thank you.

"Peggy, we all have your back. NY stands behind you. No one deserves to be called vulgar names and this was the worst name he could have used.

I know this will not deter you and will make you even stronger in your fight to help public school children.

Thank you.

Posted by: Devorah | July 03, 2013 at 07:28 PM"

I stand with you Ms. Hatton !

Luke.

Daily News online has the whole thing.

Amazing. It's online in Maine, Alabama and who knows where else by now. Kirby's got his 15 minutes of infamy. Are we accepting nominations for sexist pig of the year here?

The haredi "peacemaker," Rothman, tried to calm Kirby down, saying "You'll regret this in the morning." The understatement of the century.

Albany still won't step in and I am willing to bet nothing will happen to this attorney. D'Agostino's investigation by the State is taking years and still no outcome.

We all know that haredim don't respect women, so this is no big deal to the school board either.

Maybe someone can send this video to Michelle Obama...I'm sure her hubby would never use the "C" word at a parent trying to protect her kid. (Sigh)

This needs a major fuss to be made by women's organizations in NY. NOW already has weighed in. Even tone-deaf Cuomo should hear about this from them and from his wife and pay some attention.

He ain't scum. Scum wouldn't stick to him.

And I'd be more than happy to let him take the first punch. Hell, I'd want to make sure he hit first and that everyone saw my hands were down at the time. Wouldn't want there to be any doubt whatsoever that he was the aggressor.

If the Board had anything resembling decency they'd fire his worthless ass.

I give Mr. Rothman credit for trying to calm things down. A few months ago the senior citizen, D'Agostino, wanted to fight with a student and now this. The lawyers at this firm should use some of the money that they received from the East Ramapo taxpayers for anger management classes. If the Board acts properly and releases them they will have time on their hands to take the classes.

"Has he already been fired? I don't see him here:
http://mindaglaw.com/attorneys.html "

from NYDN comments..

Well, it takes a lot for me to be at a loss for words. But that is pretty much where I find myself today. To think that a lawyer and a former Marine would disgrace both professions using the worst name anyone could conger up against a woman is unforgivable, unprofessional, unethical and despicable.

That said, it will not silence me! Instead, it will serve as a reminder that no matter the abuse I and others have suffered at the hands of those in power, it is nothing in comparison to the suffering of our downtrodden, beleaguered public school students. I plan to pursue every legal option that I have at my disposal. I come from tough Irish stock and I will not be intimidated by Kirby or any other bully that crosses my path.

I want to thank Shmarya for keeping this story alive. I also want to thank all of those who follow, comment and support the public school students in ERCSD. I do believe that the righteous will prevail and there is nobody on earth more righteous than an innocent child. Thanks for the support. I feel buoyed and I am heartened by the outpouring of well wishes and support!

Thank you, Peggy, and thank you, Shmarya who always holds anyone abused by Haredim close to his heart.

Well Kirby has without doubt violated the rules of professional conduct. He is in a world of trouble.

They are all idiots. The lady is over-reacting too. Classy crowd up there.

Hal,
she is NOT over-reacting.
he went far beyond any border.

Peggy Hatton is a royal pain in the ass. She injects herself in every controversy and does not have a nice word for anyone except herself. She is a boring drone and does not hesitate to trash anyone, while playing the victim role. Her inane bleating, and the taunting from the other parents, who blame "the Jews" for all their problems, obviously drove the poor young lawyer over the line. The lawyer was unprofessional, but sometimes the incessant bleating of a group of idiots can drive even the strongest man to lose his cool.

The actions of Atty Kirby violates the ethical demands of the Bar. Ms. Hatton should file a complaint; the Bar will deal with the violation very aggressively and their actions will become part of Mr. Kirby's permanent file.

If you lived in Ramapo and could witness how these parents lace the Jewish community daily with dripping sarcasm and hatred, and blame them for problems that are clearly years in the making, and having nothing to do with Jews, or private schools, you'd have a better context to understand what happened at the school board. The parents are a bunch of leering goons for the most part and have free reign to say the most horrible things about "Jews" whom they blame for everything. I guarantee you they are very happy this incident occurred.

iron maiden,
put your head in the toilet and flush many many times.
thanks!!

ruthie, no thanks, don't want to get too close to you.

Is Iron Maiden the new handle for Daniel Schwartz? It can't be some Chussid, because the English is too 'educated' sounding.

Here's a word that hasn't been used yet in the context of what Kirby said/did.

He is a classic misogynist.

The definition fits him to a 'T'.


mi·sog·y·nist
[mi-soj-uh-nist, mahy‐]
noun
a person who hates, dislikes, mistrusts, or mistreats women.

I don't know Ruthie, all of those hysterics over smirking. Certainly, the post-smirking fit by the attorney was foolish and the rage in the parking lot too. But was his smirking so far over the line? It's not appropriate I'll grant you. But I wouldn't call it a high crime. I'm sure the lady felt she could bare her soul about her child. I wish should could. But a board meeting is not a therapy session. And what's with this calling of the police. Was anybody violent? As I said, they are all idiots. Just very low class and angry and New York.

Mrs. Hatton seemed to conduct herself professionally at the board meeting. The attorney acted like a scumbag.

However, in the parking lot incident, the parents overreacted, in my opinion. And the attorney ultra-overreacted.

The attorney should be reported to the New York State bar association, for all the good that would do.

Peggy, you deserve every commendation coming your way. I had to stop watching the parking lot video, as it was just too disturbing. That you keep going and treating this board with a level of respect they clearly don't deserve is just incredible.

I also agree that Kirby's misconduct should be brought to the attention of the bar. He was at the meeting in his official capacity as an attorney. After he is fired (which he must be...it would be an even worse scandal for the corrupt board if they gave him a pass), future clients and others should be warned of his potentially dangerous behavior.

Maybe that will prompt him to get the counseling he needs. He should not be around schools, and especially around children.

Is Christopher Kirby a Vizhnitzer or a Belzer?

Frankly, Ms. Peggy does sound like a raging maniac, and there is no law against smirking. That said, Mr. Kirby should be dismissed as the district's lawyer because he clearly does not know how to comport himself. One would think that a lawyer would have a better choice of vocabulary words and not resort to profanity.

And the Hassidic man did try to calm him down and shut him up in the parking lot, so I don't know why the article says that the Haredim did nothing.

Peggy and her quest for equal protection (education ) has been galvanized. To those who insult her I ask - if that was your wife/mother/sister you would not have called the police in a heartbeat. The smirking some of was the most unprofessional it if your doctor started smirking?

btw - I am not a violent person at all (make love not was at least three times a week lol) but if someone called my wife/sister/mother a c-nt there would be a chance I would be arrested but I would still have all of my teeth as opposed to a certain officer of the court.

I am not sure that the police have any power to arrest someone for using bad language. Freedom of speech and all that.

Ms. Hatton, etal:

Wow, just wow! Read the VIN Editorial posted at 2:48pm today (the 4th.)

Finally acknowledging that the ERCSD situation is reflecting badly on all NYC area Jews and demanding the Board act immediately and not wait until Monday. Wow! Thank you VIN. I and many others have been stating this for years .

(Back to poolside activities.)

Luke.

I just want to clear something up, Kirby left the building 5-10 minutes before I and the remaining parents left the building. We were all shocked to see Kirby laying in wait for us alone in the parking lot. Was I scared to see him? Yes! He is a former Marine, who knew what he was capable of? Obviously, he stayed to fight, so I immediately called RPD.

Last point, I was not using the podium to 'bare her soul'. I was explaining that parents were not aware of options to appeal a test score and parents were not aware of summer school options. Kirby was not just smirking at first, he was actually laughing as I said my son failed by one point, then he began taunting me. It's all on video.

@ah-pee-chorus "Has he already been fired? I don't see him here: http://mindaglaw.com/attorneys.html"

Kirby's name and bio does not appear in the Google cache version either. The timestamp is Jun 25, 2013 03:03:52 GMT.

According to its website, the law firm has four associates, but it only lists three on its 'attorneys' page.

@PH "He is a former Marine, who knew what he was capable of?"

Libeling former Marines -- military veteran as the troubled and misunderstood hothead incapable of integrating into society. Nice.

Gotta run, they're showing First Blood on the T.V.

"I just want to clear something up, Kirby left the building 5-10 minutes before I and the remaining parents left the building. We were all shocked to see Kirby laying in wait for us alone in the parking lot. Was I scared to see him? Yes! He is a former Marine, who knew what he was capable of? Obviously, he stayed to fight, so I immediately called RPD.

Last point, I was not using the podium to 'bare her soul'. I was explaining that parents were not aware of options to appeal a test score and parents were not aware of summer school options. Kirby was not just smirking at first, he was actually laughing as I said my son failed by one point, then he began taunting me. It's all on video."

Ms. Hatton:

Yes, it is on video. Thank G-d for that. As I said in another forum even Mr. Rothman felt he was off. His rage modeled roid rage or a mental breakdown. His antagonistic approach to you was textbook. Something was going on with him and hopefully your attorney will flesh that out.

I stand with you and I am sorry for what occurred on Tuesday night. Your delivery to the Board was eloquent and heartfelt. I am sorry no one stopped the insanity in the Board room before it escalated to the horrific parking lot scene. However, Mr. Rothman's VIN interview shows he is bucking the system since no Board member is permitted to speak to the press, especially after the "rebbes help us decide" comment in the September exposé in the JNs.

Your podium speech was not a "bare your soul" soapbox. It came across as a genuine concern that the District is failing to inform parents of options available to them and in fact is failing to notify them of anything at all-no newsletter. Yet I receive one for private schools each month.

Stay strong and continue to fight.

Luke. An appalled private school taxpayer.


"According to its website, the law firm has four associates, but it only lists three on its 'attorneys' page. "

OMG-d. First the newly elected Board member disappears off the face of the earth and now him? Ruthie, are you behaving ?

Luke.

Well I am coming from my perspective which is to never call the police because that's like inviting a Cossack into your life. They only cause more trouble.

But I'm not a woman and maybe a cursing marine would freak me out if I were.

I imagine also that you have a long history of being frustrated by these people.

"Still no answer! Trivia: There's a street in Spring Valley that has parts of it in 3 different Election Districts & 2 zip codes. What is it?"

This is from mayoral hopeful Town Councilman Friedman.

Yes, Mr. Friedman. Still no opine on your thoughts on last Tuesday's events at ERCSD's meeting. I guess electoral trivia trumps under served school children. Good job! Pander for your votes.

Hoping you enjoyed the weekend at the stadium you voted so blindly on.

Luke.

Luke.

Mr. Friedman : Is one awaiting the decision of the Rebbis before one can opine on the horrific events of last Tuesday's ERCSD meeting? Do tell. BTW, How is the financial statement for 2012 looking for the ballpark? Can't wait to share in the success!

Luke.

Oh, and Mr. Friedman, you commented here before so we know you access the blog. So please give us a ERCSD update and a stadium financial update. How cool is that!

Luke.

As a complete outsider and attorney, I was appalled at Mr. Kirby's behavior, but I will also say that it is soooo obvious to an outsider that this district has major problems and both sides have allowed it to get so personal and emotionally charged that in the end the children are the ones that will continue to suffer. Not only does the school board look bad but the parents standing around taking pictures, calling the police, etc. didn't look completely innocent. Who would want such a story to be publicized. It's embarrassing for all involved!

"…Who would want such a story to be publicized. It's embarrassing for all involved!

Posted by: Mary | July 07, 2013 at 11:18 AM "

Um, maybe people who have been abused by the board and by Kirby in the past and wish to make sure it can't happen again?

Maybe people who are concerned that a thug like Kirby is paid with public funds?

Maybe people concerned with justice and truth?

In other words, not an attorney like you.

Shmarya:

"Maybe people concerned with justice and truth?"

That is exactly what is all about.

Luke.

Hmmm..... Interesting. Still no public response from Councilman Friedman. "Gotta" be tough being a puppet, you know someone has their hand and arm up you 24/7. "Kinda" stifles original and honest thoughts.

Luke.

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