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July 16, 2013

Satmar Synagogue Bans Hebrew, "The Impure Language Of The Sectarian Heretics"

Satmar Synagogue Bans Hebrew 7-16-2013A Satmar synagogue bans worshippers from speaking in Hebrew – which it calls the "impure language of the minim [sectarian heretics]" – in the synagogue.

Satmar Synagogue Bans Hebrew 7-16-2013
[Via: BaOlam Shel Haredim.]

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And screams of joy rang out among the children........

Is the irony not lost on them that the request is written in Hebrew !

Are they going to start davening in yiddish now?

"Sinat chinam for $500, Alex?"

@Seymour, Ira
The sign is written in Hebrew (לשון קודש) not עברית.modern day עברית is not regarded as holy in the least bit as it was originally created by a maskil named Eliezer Ben-Yehuda who founded it based on the Biblical Hebrew and tweaked it to fit with then modern times.

The irony is that they say hebrew is tame... they insult their own holy language...

they could say it is to holy to be spoken as a vernacular... but no, they chose to say it is tame...

VoT-
Why is it that 25 years ago children in Mea Shearim refused to answer visitors in Hebrew, but now they do?

@bas melech
Huh? Ur point is?

but yiddish is ok a mix of german and polish

Riiiiight.... Because our forefathers spoke Yiddish

logic=fail

@seymour, reuven
It has nothing to do with what was or is spoken it has to do with the origin of the language, Yiddish was not founded by a maskil and eventually embraced and made popular by some of the worst Jews ever to exis.

Who are you or anyone else to decide who "the worst Jews to exist" are ?

On Tisha B'Av no less!

Its not i-phones holding up the geulah!!!!

"Yiddish was not founded by a maskil and eventually embraced and made popular by some of the worst Jews ever to exis."

And once again, Oh Lord, I must ask you - when you were designing the Haredim, why did you, in your infinite wisdom, see fit to leave out the irony gene?

VoT-
It is interesting that you don't mention the more important reason for not speaking Ivrit daily. If we speak it, it loses its importance a s the holy language. But, actually there is a difference between modern Hebre and Lashon HaKodesh in pronunciation and vocabulary. Those critics of speaking Hebrew daily and making mundane realized that Lashon Hakodesh has a place in settings devoted to Torah.

And once again, Oh Lord, I must ask you - when you were designing the Haredim, why did you, in your infinite wisdom, see fit to leave out the irony gene?

Yes Jeff:
And one further thing, he saw fit to connect the large intestine to the skull cavity, and replace the intended contents with the contents of that intestine.

Voice of Trolls: Many Maskilim, Bundists, Jewish Communists, and secular writers embraced Yiddish as the national language of the Ashkenazic branch of the Jewish people. They too, modernized Yiddish, just like EBY modernized Hebrew. Maybe your kind should speak Polish or Hungarian.

YL-
Shouldn't they be speaking Aramaic instead of Yiddish for authenticity?

the gemara says the torah was re-given to ezra in assyrian script and aramaic language.

above- Sanhedrin 21b


what would happen if a child rapist like weberman was heard speaking hebrew in shul?
on one hand he must be respected and have money donated on his behalf, but on the other hand how can they welcome a good man like him who dares to violate the community's morals by speaking hebrew?

this is why we need 2 satmar gedolim. its a difficult shayla.

but satmar hasidim, as do all hareidim (or almost all, with few exceptions) in israel actively speak fluent modern hebrew, with the sephardic pronunciation (just the same as all isrealis)

It has nothing to do with what was or is spoken it has to do with the origin of the language, Yiddish was not founded by a maskil and eventually embraced and made popular by some of the worst Jews ever to exis. Posted by: VoiceoftruthOf  | July 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM

This not true. The Teitelbaums, Shneur Zalman, YY Shneerson and other hassidic Rebbes fully embraced and popularized Yiddish

the funniest thing is to hear ashkenazi hareidim prononuce certain words in impeccable modern hebrew (when in conversation), and then a few minutes later, when davening, pronounce the exact same words with a yiddishized pronunciation !

i love it (honestly)

If four people walk into the Satmar place speaking Hebrew, are they the arba minim?

The Voice of Trolls claims people like Ben Yehuda, who helped restore dignity to the Jewish people, are the worse Jews to ever exist. Worse than the Kapos? Worse than the Jewish mafia? Worse than NK, which gives aid and comfort to out genocidal enemies? Worse than Yoelie Entitled Bum, who let the Zionists save him while his followers burned, and then blamed the Zionists? Rav Kook said that Ahavat Chinam is the cure for Sinat Chinam. But I am only human, and I cannot love the Voice of Trolls and those like him.

Yiddish was not founded by a maskil and eventually embraced and made popular by some of the worst Jews ever to exis.

Posted by: VoiceofLies | July 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Yiddish is based on a goyishe language-German. It's the language of Crusaders and Nazis. But why let facts interfere with your bulls--t?

@Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | July 16, 2013 at 02:38 PM

excellent.

>>@Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | July 16, 2013 at 02:38 PM

>> excellent.

Seconded.

Thanks, guys.

It could be that they allow the words of sidur and Torah reading, but not conversing in "Ivris". There could be some great halacha implications. For instance, if a person had a slightly different nusach, would he be allowed on grounds that it is in that sidur, or is it considered "speaking Ivris" because the words are extra? If a person is speaking, but uses vocabulary from the sidur, is it holy Hebrew or Min Hebrew, since he is speaking with non-holy kavana? Are you allowed to try and resolve these issues logically, or do you require a source from previous Rabanim, rather difficult since the ban itself did not exist previously.

Taiku.

YL

ROTFL-AGMCAD
(and getting my clothes all dirty)

Yiddish is a pidgin German, and one of the most profane languages in existence. It was used by secular Jews in the famous "Yiddish Theater" of the turn of the century.

fuck you satmar !

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