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July 19, 2013

Another Baby Forgotten In Car During Heat Wave

Crying babyPassersby on Thursday evening …saw a child inside a closed parked car on David Yellin Street in Jerusalem [a haredi neighborhood]. A crowd gathered quickly as efforts began to get into the car….

 

Yeshiva World reports:

Another Baby Forgotten in a Vehicle, This Time in Yerushalayim

Passersby on Thursday evening 11 Menachem Av 5773 at 18:10 saw a child inside a closed parked car on David Yellin Street in Jerusalem. A crowd gathered quickly as efforts began to get into the car, efforts that succeeded after a short period of time.

Baruch Hashem in this case, the toddler was still conscious when taken out and rescuers quickly gave him water as well as cooling him down with ambient temperature water. It was not known just how long the child was inside the car. Ichud Hatzalah was on the scene a short time later.

The crowd in the frum neighborhood near Geula held on to the child as they began searching for a parent.

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It doesn't take much effort to smash a window.

Baruch Hashem is right. My size 11's would have made short work of that window.

i DO NOT GET IT i DON'T EVEN LEAVE MY DOG IN THE CAR IN THIS HEAT

As bad as those parents are, you have to give the surrounding crowd credit for getting the baby out of the car in time. In many neighborhoods, the people passing by would have done just that - passed by without acting.

Where did you get that picture of me?

when will they realize that just to have sex does not mean they
have to have another baby!!!!

How one can be meticulous on chumra after chumra yet leave an infant in a car is beyond me.

This is shows how disfuntional their thinking process is,it is filled with so much nonsense learning that they are incapable of realizing the basics in life,of not leaving an baby in a car that is sitting in the sun,their brains are anesthesized by too much toireh learning and not much of anything else.

I would like to see how this case turns out. It will be interesting to see if the parents of this baby will be prosecuted and have custody taken from them.

Did the parent(s) have anything to say for themselves and, if so, did they even care?

Or is not leaving a baby alone in a hot car (or anywhere alon at any time) Goyishe nonsense (just like educating children or teaching them to swim)?

I'd like to know if any of the outraged commentators have themselves ever left their kids behind somewhere, sometime. If, however they were off gambling etc that's another story.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/mother-charged-with-manslaughter-over-baby-left-in-car-20130717-2q3pr.html

Uh, no Edith, I've never left my child or my dog, or anyone else in the car when I left it. Kind of a dumb comment. Are you trying to justify the parents in this case? Do you condone this action? You are a very, very stupid troll.....

Edith of course there was outraged she was charged with manslaughter.

the question is will there be outraged in the frum community about this? and I do not mean riots if the parents gets arrested

Posted by: Edith

did you read the article this was one of as few cases in the last few days.

maybe he went to learn torah, and he thinks if torah can protect the whole nation from enemy missiles it can protect my baby from the heat

You're an idiot if you think I or anyone would condone it. I am saying that it sometimes happens that you leave a child behind for a short time, could be in a shop or supermarket, usually without terrible results. You don't know the circumstances of what happened here, he might have thought she had the baby and vice versa. Deliberately leaving a child in a car is different. Chill.

Actually, it's easier then you think to just forget a kid in the car. Even a very good parent could just be having a very busy day, juggling a thousand thing in their heads, and "Left the baby in the car" just slips their minds. I don't know if that's the case here, but it dose happen.

Posted by: Audrey T Benjamin | July 20, 2013 at 12:33 PM

oh please no matter how busy I am cannot imagine leaving MY DOG ion a hot car. r

I'm very "chilled" Edith. Your cutesey "pop" language shows your uneducated ignorance and low culture. There is absolutely no excuse or justification for leaving a living being locked in a car while you're going about your "important" business. Of course, you're going to have to get the last word, so I'll expect more "chilled" and "be cool" comments from you. The important fact is, there's NOTHING that justifies the actions of leaving that baby in the car. In the U.S., the parents would have been prosecuted despite your little reminder to "Chill".

Defending the irresponsible behavior of frumma is a full time job.

Edith and Audrey must be exhausted from so much stretching and bending on behalf of Jewland.

It's amazing to see such a large group of complete idiots all posting in one place. You all make it sound like it never happens to anyone but frum Jews while the facts actually prove otherwise. http://www.ggweather.com/heat/
No one is condoning or defending the parents but do realize that it does unfortunately happen and not just to frum Jews and yes not one of these cases in all probability deliberately did it purposely. Get it through your thick skulls once and for all accidents DO happen to everyone nothing to do with race religion or gender.

True but this is one story of many. and when goyim do it get arrested and no one defends them. Lets are what happens if they get arrested. will there be riots to?

Thanks voiceoftruth. Some people are so rabidly anti-frum they twist everything to suit their agenda.

Ever rear-ended someone in a car accident? And what if there was a child between the two cars? That would also be manslaughter.

All accidents are really not 'accidents', because had the person been paying more attention, the accident would't have happened (unless it was mechanical failure). Shame all people are human and make mistakes.

Here too, pay more attention and the child won't get left behind.

Car seat belts are already linked to the cars computer so will know if a car is locked with the car seat belt in use. What is needed is an electronic link between the baby seat buckles and the car's computer so that the car will know if a baby seat is fitted and whether the buckles are open or closed. This can be achieved by way of a short cable and rj45 connectors built into the car's safety belt stalk and baby seat) so that the car knows when a baby seat buckles are closed. The car computer will then act as follows:
1. Car seat belt operated and baby seat buckles closed - Baby on board. Sound car alarm and open electric windows should car's locking system be operated from outside.
2. Car seat belt operated and buckles open - Baby seat fitted but baby not in car.
3. Car seat belt operated but cannot detect baby seat. Assume the worst and that parent forgot to plug in rj45 socket. Sound alarm when car locked from outside.
4. Car seat belt not operated and cannot detect baby seat. Assume baby seat not fitted.
All this can be achieved using current components very cheaply

"Another Baby Forgotten In Car During Heat Wave"

Damn those haredi - killing their own children! This wouldn't happen to a secular family!

WoolSilkCotton, I'm an atheist, and have about as much interest in defending frumbags as I do in elbowing crocodiles. I'm just pointing out that sometimes even good parents make terrible mistakes, and sometimes very important things slip their minds. Honestly, when have I even given the impression of being a haredi apologist?

Audrey, ok, I apologize for lumping you in with Edith.

There are some mistakes in life you just can't afford to make, like packing your parachute correctly.
It takes a particularly stupid person to leave a child in a car by mistake, or to decide to leave the child in the car for 'just a minute or two' while they run in to buy something in the store.
Ok, it can happen, because of so many stupid people out there. It doesn't just happen because they are 'too busy', it happens because they are too stupid.

Barry 2:53, it would be most helpful if a cable was connected from the car battery to the driver's genitalia. When there is still a child or other living creature in the car, and you are trying to walk away, a strong shock would be delivered, thus reminding the driver.

"Barry 2:53, it would be most helpful if a cable was connected from the car battery to the driver's genitalia. When there is still a child or other living creature in the car, and you are trying to walk away, a strong shock would be delivered, thus reminding the driver."

WSC:

OMG-d. This slayed me. :)

Luke.

"Audrey, ok, I apologize for lumping you in with Edith."

woolsilkcotton, I am an athiest too, so now Audrey and I are saying the same thing. Are you ok with me now?

++ Edith | July 22, 2013 at 03:34 AM++

No, because you are frum. Your track record here screams frum. Go sit in the corner.

I remember reading one story where a guy left his kid in the car by mistake. What happened was that his wife asked him to break from routine and drop the kid off at school instead of the wife. He said yes because it didn't seem like a big at the time. The problem is if you try to do something different from your normal routine during your normal routine, the new thing might end up forgotten. I'm not suggesting that people should shrug their shoulders and say "Oopsie daisy", or that parents shouldn't try their best not to make such mistakes, only that even very good parents can sometimes make them, particularly if they're off schedule. I also don't have much doubt in the general form consensuses that ultra-Orthodox often have families that far out-pace their resources in terms of time, money, and sometimes basic parental skills. I simply feel it's important to point out the while it's very easy to blame this kind of irresponsible parenting (and sometimes it is the culprit) it also might not be the case.

I consider myself a responsible parent and I one time accidentally left a child in the car in front of my house for about 5 minutes until I realized. I felt terrible. Thankfully, it wasn't too hot or cold outside so the child was fine but this can happen to anybody. A sleeping baby can be very quiet in the back seat and you can sometimes forget that he/she is even with you. I'm not saying that it is not negligent but mistakes do happen. It is ridiculous to pin this on being Chareidi. As with any community, Chareidim are very family oriented and would never leave a child intentionally in a car. Does your hatefullness of Chareidim know no bounds?

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