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May 26, 2013

Chabad Synangogue Bans Alleged Abuse Victim's Brother After Assault On Rabbi

Chabad Yeshiva College MelbourneHaim Waks assaulted Chabad of Melbourne's head rabbi, Zvi Telsner, on Shavuot. Now Chabad has banned Waks from attending its synagogue. But when David Cyprys was accused of sexually abusing children a(fter he had already been arrested at least once for child sexual abuse and had pleaded guilty), Chabad not only did not ban Cyprys from its synagogue or it schools – it made Cyprys the head of security there. Is this a double standard?

Chabad Yeshiva College Melbourne

Originally published at 11:40 pm CDT 5-25-2013

Haim Waks assaulted Chabad of Melbourne's head rabbi, Zvi Telsner, on Shavuot. Now Chabad has banned Waks from attending its synagogue. But when David Cyprys was accused of sexually abusing children a(fter he had already been arrested at least once for child sexual abuse and had pleaded guilty), Chabad not only did not ban Cyprys from its synagogue or it schools – it made Cyprys the head of security there.

Is this a double standard?

You bet it is.

Haim Waks should be banned (at least until he signs an agreement not to be violent).

But Chabad did not take similar precations to protect children when it should have, and the man Waks assaulted, Rabbi Zvi Telsner, is by many accounts an obnoxious person who has done everything in his power to obstruct the police investigation into Chabad's misconduct and the into the crimes of Cyprys and other pedophiles.

Not only this, but Haim Waks father Zephania was assaulted by a leading shule member in shule the very next day.

All this is more evidence of Chabad's true motivation in this case – and that motivation does not seem to have much to do with protecting children.

Yeshivah Centre Shule letter banning Haim Waks 5-25-2013
Yeshivah Centre Shule Melbourne letter banning violent people from shule 5-25-2013.pg

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Chaim Waks, unfortunately, like many of his brothers, doesn't need a shul.
They have long given up any semblence of orthodoxy.

Attacking a rabbi and generally behaving like a vildeh chayeh has put a dent into Manny's campaign.

Bobby Basrah--You ARE TRULY A FOOL, THE REASON THE WAKS BROTHERS ARE NOT FRUM IS OF WHAT THEY EXPERIENCED FIRST HAND FROM THE FRUM PEOPLE THEY SAW THAT THEY ARE ABANDONED AND THEY PROTECT A RABBI WHO ENABLED THE MOLESTER WHAT WOULD YOU DO,THE RABBI IS TO BLAME FOR WHAT IS HAPPENEING NO ONE ELSE.

I said this after the incident, Haim handed Chabad the high moral ground with his actions here. Now, Chabad WILL lose that ground A) Because eventually the whole case falls into secular hands who are capable of realizing there is no moral equivalency between pushing someone, and raping a child. B) Chabad just can't help it.

There is a lesson here - if you are going to get physical and (albeit temporarily) give up the moral high ground - then freakin' get physical. Punch the guys lights out - break his nose - open what's closed and close what's open....... Don't just slap off his glasses.

To REB...

Your logic may be correct, however Chabad never addmitted any wrongdoing. On the other hand Chaim addmitted that he assaulted Rabbi T.
Mabey next time (I am sure there will be a next time) Manny shouldn't comment openly addmitting thathis brother Chaim assaulted Rabbi T.

What happened to the rabbi's glasses? Broken or just hurt feelings?

rebitzman, the moral high ground and what you or any decent and sensible rabbi would have done is to have picked up the glasses, brushed them off, and offered an olive branch. If i remember right, according to the gospel of Schneerson, one should give the other cheek to one who smiteth.

this is taking us back to an eye for an eye.

put a square into a hole: "Chabad never admitted any wrongdoing". I thought that was part of the problem, not a justification for anything. Crawl back under your rock.

TO Emanuel N

I was just saying that since Chabad didn't admit to anything and Chaim W did, makes it harder for Manny W to prove his case.
I am NOT justifying being molested.

"Under the auspices of the Lubavitcher Rebbe"

Lol

If Telsner said "Who gave you permission to talk to the police" etc from the pulpit as reported on this blog then surely that puts to bed the question of whether the leadership really support co-operating with the police in accordance with the law. Master tactician, he ain't.


jancsibacsi: THE REASON THE WAKS BROTHERS ARE NOT FRUM IS OF WHAT THEY EXPERIENCED FIRST HAND FROM THE FRUM PEOPLE

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Don't be such a tipesh.
Manny Waks went OTD long before he was molested. He admitted this in a lengthy interview in the Melb Age newspaper.

Why do you think his "loving" father threw him out on to the street as a youngster?

And as I hear, some of the brothers received the same treatment. And it was those nasty Chabadniks who took these kids into their homes and showed them what a normal Jewish household looks like.

And the fact that Zephania continued to send all 17 to YBR shows that either
a) He was satisfied with teh school
b) didn't give a damn about his kidsand their physical and mental abuses there
or c) that YBR was the only school that was willing to educate his 17 kids for zero tuition.

Whatever the true reason is, Manny and his brethren should consider suing their dad.

And the fact that Zephania continued to send all 17 to YBR shows that either
a) He was satisfied with teh school
b) didn't give a damn about his kidsand their physical and mental abuses there
or c) that YBR was the only school that was willing to educate his 17 kids for zero tuition.
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d) He was so brainwashed he didn't know any better and so desperate to belong that he blinded himself to the evidence.

@Eli

I'm pretty sure it's that other dead "messiah" and not the rebbe who made the big deal out our quoting Lamentations.......

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