Pedophile In Chabad Scandal Allegedly Offered Bribe To Plead Guilty

David Kramer, a convicted pedophile who was extradited from the US to Australia last year to face charges of sexually abusing children at Chabad's Yeshivah College in Melbourne, has allegedly been offered a bribe by prominent Chabad members. They want Kramer to plead guilty so he isn't put on the witness stand and forced to tell an open court about Chabad's alleged role in helping him flee looming criminal charges in Australia.

David Kramer, mug shot 2012

A source in Melbourne tells me that two leading members of the Chabad Yeshivah Centre community there have been visiting pedophile David Kramer in prison. They allegedly promised Kramer significant financial inducements to plead guilty to charges against him in order to keep Kramer – and several Chabad leaders – off the witness stand at trial.

What Kramer, who was helped to flee Australia by Chabad’s now-late-Australian-leader Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Groner, allegedly has a lot of incriminating evidence against Groner and Chabad that would certainly come to light in a trial.

This type of witness tampering is not new for Chabad.

When Pinchos Lew, the son and nephew of prominent Chabad emissaries, was arrested along with a co-conspirator for armed robber and attempted murder after he and his friend went on a robbery spree after finishing work on a late Friday afternoon at Agriprocessors in Postville, Iowa.

The pair drove on Shabbat and committed robberies in nearby towns, and Lew’s partner shot a woman working in a convenience store as Lew waited in the getaway car outside.

Chabad emissaries Rabbi Moshe Feller (Lew’s uncle) and Rabbi Gershon Grossbaum were overheard by a prison guard as they spoke Yiddish to promised Lew’s partner, promising him money, a job, a guaranteed place to live and new motorcycle if he would testify that Lew did not know the robberies were taking place and that Lew did not know about them or about the shooting until the pair were arrested. The guard spoke German and understood most of what was said, and told Stephen Bloom about it. Bloom reports it in his 2000 book Postville: A Clash of Cultures in Heartland America.

Bloom also reports a conversation he had with Lew’s partner, who admitted the crimes were Lew’s idea,and the guns were Lew’s guns. Lew’s partner says that Lew still had a chance to make something out of his life even though the partner’s life was ruined. So he decided not to tell the whole truth to police and prosecutors in order to save Lew, and in return he was being taken care of by unnamed people who promised to provide for him when he gets out of prison. He got a 50-year-sentence.

Lew got a slap on the wrist and served his sentence at Chabad’s Rabbinical College of America in Morristown, New Jersey in a program for criminal offenders that did not actually exist. It was invented by Chabad (apparently with the help of its prison missionary arm the Aleph Institute) in order to get Lew sentenced to into it.

Lew spent his time studying. He got married to a woman from a well-to-do Chabad family. And then he eventually served as a Chabad emissary in North Carolina until he was accused of sexual harassment and attempted sexual assault shortly after the local Jewish community accidentally found out about Lew’s recent criminal background and was outraged. Chabad stood by Lew then, but not after the attempted sexual assault, and he went on to live in Crown Heights, Brooklyn where his wife’s prominent Chabad family lived.

The woman Lew’s partner shot in the convenience store lives in near-constant pain. She has a bullet lodged against her spine that can’t be surgically removed.

Chabad did not pay her any friendly visits or do anything to help her before or after Lew’s trial.

When I spoke to this woman, a grandmother even at the time of the shooting, what bothered her most was that no one from Agriprocessors or Chabad ever apologized to her or showed any sympathy or empathy for her.

She was out of work for a long time after the shooting, and her family had trouble getting by financially because of it.

Did Agriprocessors or the Rubashkin family ever help you? Did they even give you a box of meat so you wouldn’t have to worry about going hungry?, I asked.

They had not – even though Agriprocessors had literally hundreds of thousands of dollars of frozen non-kosher meat in its freezers that it could not find buyers for, and it would have cost the Rubashkins nothing to do it.

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Comments

[Rebitzman]

I do not doubt your story, but I have to believe this will be a hard sale. From what I understand, the case against Kramer boils down to who the court chooses to believe in the end (he has a better than average chance to walk). Even with the plethora of unbelievably light sentences in these cases of late (notable exception being our recent Satmar case......) I can't imagine Kramer will drive himself off a cliff for mere chump change.

[Avrohom]

The people in N.C.wanted Lew out so they bribed the maid to make up story. The truth is the opposite of the headlines.

[Luke]

I can hear the argument now. "It wasn't a bribe. It was back pay." Or "maybe it was fundraising dollars ala Weberman, for his defense."

Denial, it isn't just a river.

Luke.

[Shmarya Rosenberg]

Rebitzman –

There are multiple witnesses against Kramer including multiple victims. He was convicted of pedophilia in the US after fleeing Australia, as well. He as no significant chance of acquittal.

[Reuvan Nuchem]

"The guard spoke German and understood most of what was said" I speak Yiddish and rarely understand when a German Ysv"z speaks.

[Shmarya Rosenberg]

Reuvan Nuchem –

I suppose you are not as bright as the guard or have less innate language ability than she has. Or maybe, just maybe, both explanations apply to you.

[jewishwhistleblower]

Another confessed/convicted pedophile on the run was been caught and awaits extradition:

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/pdfs/26091.pdf

Man arrested on extradition warrant,
Haim Amiram Cohen, 41
Broadcast time: 19:46
Friday, April 5, 2013
Fugitive Squad
416−808−5930
On Friday, April 5, 2013, the Toronto Police Service Fugitive Squad, with the assistance of Interpol Ottawa and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, arrested Haim Amiram Cohen, 41, under authority of a Provisional Arrest Warrant − Extradition Act.
Haim Amiram Cohen has been wanted by authorities in Israel for Criminal Sexual Assault on a minor. The offences occurred between 1989 and 1993 against a 14−year−old girl.

He pled guilty to all the offences with which he was charged before allegedly fleeing Israel to avoid serving his sentence.
He is currently being held pending his extradition to Israel.
“International cooperation between INTERPOL partners is crucial to supporting the Canadian law enforcement community and ensuring the security of Canadians at home and abroad,” said Inspector Glenn Martindale, Director of RCMP INTERPOL Ottawa. “The arrest of this individual would not have been possible without the help of our Liaison Office in Paris, the
Israel National Police, Canada Border Services Agency, Citizenship and Immigration Canada and the Toronto Police Service”.
Meaghan Gray, Corporate Communications, for Detective Andrew Lawson, Fugitive Squad

[put a square into a hole]

Shmarya

Why don't you get the TRUE story from Lew's father in law Yossi Laine?
You can call the printhouse and get the truth instead of starting out against David Kramer and finishing with your TRUE intended victim Agri and the Rubashkins.
Lew's acomplice in crime was a baal teshuvah kid that SMR helped time and time again. Tried to help him stay out of trouble until Lew showed up in Postville.

[put a square into a hole]

Shmarya
Rabbi Lew will be in NY this Wednesday as a guest speaker in the RASAG ballromm. Why don't you confront him face to face to speak the truth about his son.

[ShmaryLover]

1) This posting has several typographical errors. The scumbag was foaming at the mouth just writing it in some crazed frenzy.

2) How and why the whole Lew story comes up again in detail totally unrelated to the headline story other than the alleged bribe. Note how one is based on a supposed Yiddish understanding, German speaking guard and the other is 'some source.' That's shoddy journalism at its pathetic worst.

The dirtbag is running out of steam and just like to mix it up for the same back of losers who follow his every posting.

"News sources contact me!" "I have increasing followers." "Everybody lifts from my site."

Smart money says he will die of depression or kill himself before someone else puts a bullet in his head...and let us say Amen!

[ruthie]

luke,
i just saw CSL on tv.
omg.
pale
nervous
and looked like he hasn't
slept in days.
omg

[dh]

Shmarylover (sic & sick), approximately when did your last endorphin die?

[Shmarya Rosenberg]

put a square into a hole, et al –

The stupidity of you Lew defenders is really appalling. Let me help you process. I kew Pini Lew before and after the crimes. Ive known his uncle Moshe Feller and Grossbaum for at least 31 years. Ive known his father for close to 30 years. Lews accomplice was NOT a BT – he was adopted as an infant by a Jewish family, converted and lived mist of his childhood and young adult life in Crown Heights. The guns were Lews guns. Lew was a full participant in the crimes. And Chabad broke the law and lied to get him a get a out of jail free card. These are facts, not suppositions.

[Lakers]

Lew`s partner in crime, who has an Italian father does not even speak Yidish.

[Shmarya Rosenberg]

Lakers –

That is absolutely false.

[put a square into a hole]

To Shmarya
If you know Shmuel Lew and his gang of cronies, than why don't you confront him this Wednesday in NY????
I was not defending Lew, or the crime. I just wrote that you start off with Kramer and you end up writing about SMR and anyone in between. This time its Lew.
Come to NY and show us that you have some balls to stand up against Shmuel Lew and Yossi Laine. You scared of getting a gun to your face!!!

BTW
Lakers IS correct

[Shmarya Rosenberg]

put a square into a hole –

Does mental illness run in your family?

And, no, Lakers is not correct.

[Luke]

Ruthie:

Why was he on TV? What channel and when? (Waiting for Ruthie to come though.) And she always does !

Luke.

[devorah]

Must have been channel 12, but I didn't see him.

[ruthie]

oh! it was some local show...named something like.. meet your leaders...something down that avenue
he looked like a tractor ran over him. really bad.
really worried.

[ruthie]

it was on earlier this evening or late afternoon

[ruthie]

no, it wasn't channel 12.
maybe 20? i'm really not sure.
for sure not 12. i know 12

[ruthie]

what i found funny was i could just feel the guy interviewing CSL SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wanted to ask him anything but the mundane questions he was posing at that point.
he wanted to question CSL on the scandal. lol

[Luke]

Ruthie/Devorah: Would love to know where and when. Especially to see him sweating!

Let me know.

Luke.

[Jake]

I wish the prosecution would offer Kramer a lite plea deal if he cooperates and testifies against all of the chabadniks who want him to take a fall.

[devorah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzydI5liD9c

St. Lawrence is a chasid in disguise.

[fred]

All I can say is that you have a vivid imagination. What a load of B's!

[David]

It seems any witnesses - which would now not need to testify if he pleads guilty - would be given an impossible choice (in their own eyes). Either become mosers or perjure themselves in court.

[FormerPostviller]

Lew's accomplice was Phillip Stillman. A ger. He was troubled and trouble from the day he set foot in Crown Heights and then Postville. We were friendly but he was a thug. I knew them both. I worked at Agri when they were arrested and visited them both in prison. Phillip Stillman did not speak a word of Yiddish or Hebrew. The guns belonged to a supervisor named Cletus (spelling?) Everyone living in Postville had guns. It is all a lie. Stop picking on people and spreading rabid hatred. Rabbi Lew slept in my bed when he came to visit and bail out his son. Get your facts straight please.

[Shmarya Rosenberg]

FormerPostviller –

Please.

My facts are absolutely straight, and you are lying.

Bloom documented all of this in 2000. Its been in print and very public for 13 years. You say the guns were not belong to Lew, but a gun cleaning kit was found in room in one of his suitcases. Nothing was found in the room of Stillman.

All you Chabadniks ever seem to to is lie.

[Jake]

We seem to have f
Gone right off the original topic .
Who are the CHABAD niks offering Kramer a finsbciSl incentive for pleading guilty ?

[Steven]

You moved your left hand.

[Appalled]

Yes who are these Chabadniks? We all would like to know

[FormerPostviller]

I am not a chabadniker. I was there throughout. What I am saying is from experience not rumor or conjecture. Not from in 2000 when a disgruntled employee wrote a bitter memoir. Cletus ws terrified that he would get dragged in to the mess because the guns were his. He told me so himself. And there was another guy, a redhead whose name escapes me, that would go shooting practice with them. Kits and guns were there. I saw them. Every household out there had them. I am not defending Lew or his actions. I think he finally straightened out and did teshuvah and that is all anyone should really care about.

The first time I met Phillip Stillman when I arrived in Postville, he was bare chested, wearing a leather trench coat and had a shotgun underneath. Just for kicks. He was uncontrollablle and had no business working there.SMR knew this. I told him so. We all did. He just couldn't bring himself to firing this riff raff. We were all around the same age and luckily i happened to be away from Postville at the time (if i remember correctly, the arrests were around the yomim tovim). I could very well have been in that car with them. We all used that beat up jalopy (the whole town knew that car belonged to us - it literally had no front end). That's what made what occurred so crazy. The people they were holding up knew them.....

Why would I make this up or lie? It is ancient history, who cares? ( I heard Stillman got sick and died in jail. I never confirmed it so i cannot state it as factual).

As far as working for Rubashkin goes, and for all you Rubashkin bashers, they were the toughest bosses I have ever worked for. They were disorganized and ran the place like a boro park butcher shop. They were a frustrated bunch and took it out on their closest friends/employees. I loved working there but I hated working for them.

However,they all had hearts of gold. Looked after us. Truly cared. Paid us well and on time. I was single at the time and I was made to feel a part of the family. Even when I went to visit NY on a break, their parents and siblings took over. They worked hard and so did we. I don't condone what was done later etc. nor do I defend it. These guys had great ahavas yisroel. Helped us any way they could. They bought me a bed, warm clothing, food (there were no kosher. groceries there at the time), Invited us for shabbos meals and for dinner sometimes, paid for my ticket to go on a shiddach, etc. etc. the list is endless. Heshy's wife prepared foodfor us all the time and delivered it if we were sick. Thy were always giving an helping. But work was work. We were in the foxholes every day. But so were they.

And guess what: if you god forbid had a troubled child that needed hard work and a reality check, they'd have accepted them too. They tried with Stillman, Lew, me and others. Out of the goodness of their hearts. And it wasn't just the jews. SMR helped everyone there. He was a sucker. I told him so. They laughed behind his back when he'd lend them money, etc.

So there you have it.

Just, know who you are bashing and hating.

[Shmarya Rosenberg]

FormerPostviller –

Please.

Bloom is a journalist, not a a disgruntled employee. And I realize this is way beyond your pay grade, but Bloom has not one but two sources that for the bribe and multiple sources for the guns.

As for the Rubashkins, they were very generous and Ive reported that. But what you dont grasp is that they were generous with money they STOLE.

[FormerPostviller]

Shmarya,

Why the personal attack? Pay grade..... You have no idea who I am and what I earn today.

Is one not permitted to voice their opinion without your venomous and vituperous attacks? I have my opinions and you have yours? I believe that I have respected yours while voicing mine.

We can disagree without getting personal or offended.

SMR and Sr. were kind to me and my family long before they purchased the plant in Postville. Mrs. Rubashkin ran a free restaurant for poverty stricken families long before they purchased the plant. Yossi Rubashkin taught me the true meaning of brotherly love.

I worked there long before the slaughtered one chicken there. The chicken side had not even been built yet. It was a recent venture for them.

I know firsthand that they were doing chesed way way before whatever crimes were committed.

If you attack me in your response or are offensive in any way, you will never hear from me again. And trust me, you want to. I can give you documented information on a completely unrelated matter that will blow the roof off this town and sizzle your followers for many months.

I have been testing you to see how you respond and react. So far you are failing miserably. I simply do not trust you with the piles of documentation that I possess. You get too personal and people will not believe you because of same.

I am not a liar. You will soon come to know this if you can control yourself.

I believe you have my email...

[Shmarya Rosenberg]

FormerPostviller –

Aaron Rubashkin and his sons have long history of shady business dealings that stretch back before Postville.

[Aussie]

Why is just about every topic about the Melbourne Yeshivah child abuse scandal hijacked with off topic BS??....

It's an insult to us decent Australians who take this topic seriously....

[devorah]

"I simply do not trust you with the piles of documentation that I possess. You get too personal and people will not believe you because of same"

If you have "piles of documentation," spill the beans and let us decide if we believe you or not. Shmarya will research if your evidence is true and if so, will post it. As for Rubashkin's generosity, anyone can be generous with someone else's money. They probably were laughing at you when they took care of you.