Hasidim Try To Force “Immodest” Woman To Leave Town
Rabbi Zushe Horowitz, the rabbi of the hasidic community of Elad, Israel, has reportedly sanctioned and personally participated in a protest held outside the home of a woman hasidim allege has violated the community’s modesty standards.
Hasidim Try To Force “Immodest” Woman To Leave Town
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com
Rabbi Zushe Horowitz, the rabbi of the hasidic community of Elad, Israel, has reportedly sanctioned and personally participated in a protest held outside the home of a woman hasidim allege has violated the community’s modesty standards.
Dozens of hasidim joined Horowitz in the protest in what is only one part of an ongoing escalating campaign meant to force the woman to leave the community, Yeshiva World reported based on a report the Israeli haredi news website Ladaat.
This really fosters a great sense of community.
Luke.
Posted by: Luke | April 24, 2013 at 03:08 PM
If this is true then what about the prohibition of public embarrassing people?
What was her crime anyway? Did she show too much ankle?
Posted by: Garnel Ironheart | April 24, 2013 at 03:23 PM
So, if these ignorant bastards step onto her property, and obviously threaten her, does she have the right to use force? Lethal force? I fu**ing would! Horowitz would be the first on my list to have a brand new bris. This time from the nutsack up!
Posted by: Alter Kocker | April 24, 2013 at 03:42 PM
Elad has full Google StreetView coverage. It's fascinating. It's a large gated subdivision, all newly built. There's only one way in and out. (Google shows an additional dirt road leading north, but it runs into a locked gate in an electric fence.) Mostly apartments and condos, plus a mall and various schools and religious buildings.
Almost everyone is religiously dressed. The male adults all wear the white shirt and black pants uniform, but some let their suspenders down. The women wear below-the black knee skirts. Kids get to wear some color, but have to cover up just as much.
The only exceptions I saw were one guy in a T-shirt, jeans, and work boots, and another in a green reflective vest. They're probably keeping the place going. There was also one Asian woman waiting at a bus stop. She's wearing a plain long-sleeved grey top and a skirt that ends just above her knees.
Lots of buses going in and out. It's a bedroom town. No sign of business activity.
Posted by: John Nagle, Silicon Valley, CA | April 24, 2013 at 04:06 PM
I hope she is Video taping all these chazairim and sues their ass off, I would take these asses to court for defamation , slander, mental abuse , and what not. Assholes like this Horowitz understand only the language of money, sue their asses , get a $10 million judgement against him and then talk to him, it has to be done because Mamzairim like these have to learn a lesson the hard way, imagin a group of pigs standing in front of your house and demanding you leave town, and what with her kids? What's with her husband? These Mamzairim don't give a dam for nothing, sue their asses, all of them
Posted by: Moshe Aron kestenbaum, Williamsburg | April 24, 2013 at 04:28 PM
Posted by: Garnel Ironheart | April 24, 2013 at 03:23 PM
You're assuming that men who do nothing but sit on their asses and study Torah would have a basic knowledge of halacha.
Posted by: ger tzedek | April 24, 2013 at 05:50 PM
I hope she is Video taping all these chazairim and sues their ass off, I would take these asses to court for defamation , slander, mental abuse , and what not.
alas, msk, i suspect neither the police nor the legal system in israel, will bother to take any action to help a woman that placed herself willingly in sodom, oops, i meant in this case, elad.
Posted by: Yosef ben Matitya | April 24, 2013 at 05:56 PM
Ah, Elad, the old Hebrew word for "Salem". I wonder if rebbe Zushe has blood connection to Jonathan Corwin.
But seriously, since their loss at the election polls, the outright assertion to want to run all matters Jewish in Judea has ran amok among these extremist religious fanatics more than usual. Almost like a last ditch effort to overwhelm and grab as much power and territory as possible in case their political clout is permanently damaged.
Or they have already been this arrogant a long time coming now.
Posted by: Bob Guthrie | April 24, 2013 at 07:25 PM
If one was to do that to a woman dressing as a hooker in America, Canada or Britian the woman would cry physical assault #radical feminism
Posted by: Shankar | April 24, 2013 at 08:25 PM
Posted by: Shankar
"If one was to do that to a woman dressing as a hooker..."
Did you just made an oxymoronic non-sequitur point just to take a stab at feminists, instead of decrying an actual personal rights assault against a woman by extremist religious zealots?.
So, either you are either an Extremist Chareidim apologist, or a run of the mill Women hating misogynist,... or most likely, both. =/
...and it's "Britain", not "britian", Twitter like hashtags words need to be connected (#radicalfeminism), and, it still won't work here because this is BBCode based forum, which does not support Hashtags (#youuneducatedmisogynisticputz).
Posted by: Bob Guthrie | April 24, 2013 at 11:04 PM
It's a blessing in disguise. Who wants to live in a mini-North Korea slash theocracy?
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | April 25, 2013 at 07:10 AM
Posted by: Shankar | April 24, 2013 at 08:25 PM
Well, yes. Us feminists believe that women should be able to dress how they like without being harassed or shamed by society. I don't see how that's such a controversial sentiment.
Also, "radical feminism" doesn't mean what you think it means. Unless you're concerned about the academic theory that patriarchal oppression is the root of other forms of discrimination.
Posted by: ger tzedek | April 25, 2013 at 09:46 AM
. . . the business side of all things and the want to be appear to be busy doing what matters most is the business of the day. . . even in a selectively homogenous gaited community such as Elad, routine prunning and schlepping must be seen as important business of the day matters. . . and what else to prove one's mettle than to pick on the weakest and apparently most defenseless amongst us. . . hmm!
Posted by: anchell | April 25, 2013 at 10:31 AM
According to Dr. Margaret Singer two important items from a list that indicate a cult are:
1. Get people away from normal support systems for a period of time -> Gated community with severe social codes
2. Attack person's self-concept for non-conformity - Hanging outside this poor woman's home promising some sort of future violence
A group of cowards picking on one vulnerable mother merely belies the truth that the group is unhealthy and she'd do better to flee as soon as she is able. I hope she has the financial ability to do so and can find a new home as soon as possible. It almost feels like I'm talking about a wife who is beaten by her husband!
Posted by: Peanut Cavalry | April 25, 2013 at 05:06 PM
"It almost feels like I'm talking about a wife who is beaten by her husband!"
It's very much the same mindset. I've seen it frequently among evangelicals as well.
Posted by: Jeff | April 26, 2013 at 03:58 AM
I don't get it. OK, before you all ram this down my throat, I KNOW that this IS different, but conceptually....
Restaurants have a no tie, no jacket, no service policy...
so a dress policy can be understood. Of course I don't condone the public protest and humiliation, but I do understand the point of residents wanting a dress code in their neighborhood.
but isn't it ironic that the "frei" Israeli government want to impose their ideology on the Haredi be it in education or army service, but the Hareidi can't impose their dress standards in their own neighborhood...
Posted by: eli r | April 26, 2013 at 06:43 AM
Posted by: eli r
"so a dress policy can be understood."
This is not a "Dress Policy". Life is not a Restaurant where you can dictate what people should wear. This is a Extremist Religious Edit based on a Zealot Belief interpretation of Judaic law.
"But the Hareidi can't impose their dress standards in their own neighborhood..."
"Impose", first thing you got right. "Their own neighborhood..." Wrong again. Elad is not a private Haredi property, gated community, or compound, and there's no legal laws anywhere in Judea that said that they have the right to do so, bubbeh.
"The "frei" Israeli government want to impose their ideology on the Haredi be it in education or army service..."
Oh, give Haredim children the chance of learning such liberal knowledge as sciences, math, language, among others?. That is bad, isn't it, eli r?. and to ask them to contribute to the defense of Judea!. How dare they!.
Now go support a Haredi Pedophile. You apologists are good at that, no Government's teachings required. =/
Posted by: Bob Guthrie | May 01, 2013 at 12:34 AM