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March 13, 2013

Video: Orthodox Prez Of Scandal-Plagued Haredi-Controlled School Board Calls Parents, Activists "Miscreants" Who Are Part Of A "Cabal"

Daniel SchwartzThe haredi-controlled East Ramapo school board's president, Daniel Schwartz, notorious for finding ways to stop public comment at board meetings and for his lack of concern for the district's children, called parents and activists "miscreants" and accused them of being part of a "cabal." Schwartz did this as he introduced a motion to move all public comment to the end of board meetings rather than in the middle of them, making it difficult for students to stay late enough to comment. Schwartz was also previously been caught motioning to a board member to leave the room to break the board's quorum and end public comment.

 

 

In other East Ramapo school board news, the board chose two substitute members to replace the only non-Jewish board members. Those two non-Jewish members resigned after allegedly suffering through intimidation and shunning by the haredi and Orthodox board members (none of whom have children in East Ramapo's public schools).

Yossi Gestetner, the haredi PR flack, did not make the cut.

However, the board did choose one Orthodox Jew, Nathan Losman. The other substitute is Bernard Charles.

This means 8 of 9 board members are Orthodox or haredi.

In other developments, a grievance has been filed against the board's attorney, Albert D'Agastino, for swearing at a 17-year-old honor student and challenging the student to a fistfight. The incident took place at the end of the previous board meeting.

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This is pure and simple vengeful retaliation. Take a look at he body language, the rest of the Board is very uncomfortable, looking down while Schwartz mets out his punishment. The parents have pretty much given up talking to the Board, they obviously don't care what is said. I feel badly for the students. If the Board had operated respectfully last week and allowed the students 15 minutes to speak, after enduring an hour of executive session, none of this would have occurred. Instead of trying to ratchet down tensions, Schwartz fans the flames. What in the world is he trying to accomplish?

Maybe they should put their grievances on paper and present it to the board instead of acting like a mob.

"Miscreants", unbelievable! He states this as he purports to represent the entire community? Not! He is an absolute disgrace and an embarrassment to the community! Shanda fur die goy. Luke.

"What in the world is he trying to accomplish?"

Daniel stated at a previous meeting (UTube) that if the parents are not happy with the way he is running this board, the residents need to move. I think his ultimate goal is to rid the area of non chasids and have the chasids completely take over the area and turn it into a Mea Shearim.

As a parent and a business owner, Daniel, I am putting forth great effort to have you indicted for your fraud involved in running this school district. The disputed (by NYS) paid invoices for all the Yiddish textbooks sent to Brooklyn keep me up at night.

Signed, Miscreant, part of the Cabal

"Miscreant, Part of the Cabal"

Great name ! Luke.

At the state level, the makeup of the school board should be changed to reflect the makeup of student bodies in the public system. In other words, ONLY people whose children attend or have attended the public system should be eligible to present themselves as candidates for election to the school board. Inviting assholes such as DBSesq to sit on this board is an insult to every taxpayer everywhere.

I am confused, I was sure they would have opted for Mr. Gestetner given his honed public speaking and community building skills, his educational background and his knack for fundraising. Additionally, his motto, which he espouses everyday on his blog site: "My Opinions are Based on Facts; Not Ideology" would be so welcome on this Board.

I guess that frees him up to consider a run for Congress again. He would have my vote !

Luke.

Anyone know to whom at ERSD do I send the voucher for the books I need to purchase for my Hebrew tutoring class? I only need 14 books and figure since I am a District resident I should get priority over the Brooklyn yeshivas. Thanks. Luke.

Additionally, does anyone know when the next surplus school is being sold at below market value? A group of us would like to by it. We would also be interested in renting it but only if the District would not mind if we actually did not pay the rent after the first few month. Thanks. Luke.

Schwartz thinks the public school kids are too dumb to think for themselves, reminds me of slave master. If he wants to incite people in the community, he is doing a good job. If he wants to incite anti-semitism in the community, he is doing a great job! Meanwhile, there is no budget talks. This whole mess is being contrived to divert attention from the looming deficit and the fact that the District, under the direction of Schwartz, will not be able to provide even mandated services next year.

Shame on this Board!

I think DBEsq wanted his lawyer friend on the board is so that at least one other person on the Board will be able to understand his wondrous vocabulary skills! How many of the knuckleheads on the board understood what 'miscreants' and 'cabal' meant? Lol! Maybe they should look up the definition of pompous, I am sure there will be a photo of Daniel.

DBS is not just pompous--he is evil.

you get what you deserve-mark vs 6 hew testament, book of mark. the man looks like a nfruit cake but you are too weak to rid yourselves.

Besides for the the few kokker's with lot's of wisdom that hog this site, most of us - taxpayers - agree one hundred percent with Schwartz. I saw the video of how the kids behaved - and I applaud the board for not letting themselves be abused. I think the hoggers should move in to Minnesota basement so they can join Gossip Girl, in his misery and leave the rest of us out of it.

His behavior is not that of a mature man. No mature man would carry himself that way. His outbursts and his need to "punish" the public are more the sign of a sand lot bully. You know the kind, all tough and mean until you find and hit that "one" spot that sends him running home, flailing his arms, crying for his mummie. Hopefully, someone will find that spot soon. Pearl?

Speaking of Pearl of Wisdom, I so agree with your assessment of the other members of the Board. For me, it's all in the eyes and their eyes tell the whole story.

Luke.

"agree one hundred percent with Schwartz."

What do you think fellow "kokkers", I say we put Taxpayer Moishe in charge of Community Relations? We could use him in an effort to bring the community together. What do you think?

Just saying.... Luke.

Luke is offended that I didn't mention him - lol. Luke don't worry, I'm sure Gossip Girl will let you into his basement as well.

Perhaps you should take along the wonderful kids that were disrupting the board the other night.

just saying.....

Moishe:

"Luke is offended that I didn't mention him"

Not at all Moishe, just wanted to recognize another fellow taxpayer !

"I'm sure Gossip Girl will let you into his basement as well."

Why are your referencing a 90's chick flix? That a bit creepy.

"wonderful kids"

They are. As unfortunate as that situation was the fact the children stage their protest at the injustice foisted upon them by the supposed "grown" [sic] man, is notable. The fact that the had to do it, a disgrace.

Again, welcome Moishe and keep on paying those taxes!

Luke.

Luke:

"Not at all Moishe, just wanted to recognize another fellow taxpayer !"

Liar!

"Why are your referencing a 90's chick flix?"

Are you trying to demonstrate again that you know nothing about topics that you blog about? We already know that! You confirm this for us several times a day

"They Are" I'm sure you think so, you should definitely encourage your kids to emulate their behavior.

"just wanted to recognize another fellow taxpayer" I dont' belive you pay your taxes - otherwise you would have been on board with Schwartz. As simple as that.

Moishe:

"Liar!"

No Moishe you misunderstood completely. I truly welcome the sight of a fellow taxpayer. Sometimes I go weeks on end before I encounter one. So, welcome!

"Are you trying to demonstrate again that you know nothing about topics that you blog about? We already know that! You confirm this for us several times a day"

I usually do not demonstrate. I usually just opine on the topic at hand. I am so glad that someone is following me on this blog site. Thanks!

""They Are" I'm sure you think so, you should definitely encourage your kids to emulate their behavior."

Our country's history is rooted in civil disobedience to protect or gain rights. The children were only trying to secure their rights. Remember Social Studies 101 or Civics 101, or maybe not?

""just wanted to recognize another fellow taxpayer" I dont' belive you pay your taxes - otherwise you would have been on board with Schwartz."

Most taxpayers understand that it is their responsibility to support public schools. I have never utilized the services of the District but I do pay my tax bill promptly. I would never be on board with any entity the exhibits the behavior they do towards the community. A true shanda fur die goy.

"As simple as that."

I agree, I found your response simple too.

BTW, I hear as well a free book vouchers for all, the District is offering anger management classes for Board Members and hired staff. Maybe you to avail yourself to their services.

Luke.

Moishe so, you think the kids behavior is bad, but you condone the behavior of the lawyer and the Board? The kids only reacted to the way they were treated. What is your opinion of a 60+ year old grown man unleashing a verbal assault on an innocent student? What is your opinion of Schwartz calling that lawyer 'excellent'?

Luke...we don't need to push any buttons with Daniel...he pushes his own self destruct buttons and we just sit back and watch.

Yay! the kokkers are teaming up!!

" Sometimes I go weeks on end before I encounter one."

How about you come and visit Monsey for a change, and stop walking down the streets of the public school parents in the slums of
Spring Valley?

" I am so glad that someone is following me on this blog site" I follow gossip girl, stupid - not you. You just leech on to his site to kok with your kokker friends.

"Our country's history is rooted in civil disobedience to protect or gain rights" Exactly - as long as it's not heavens forbid Daniel Schwartz oran orhthodox jew.

now go back to your 90's chick flix. with your kokker friends that blog on this site without thinking.

This is democracy at work. When you impose public school tax on the population, the population gets to make the rules.

Do you really expect a population that does not get any benefit out of the taxes they pay to impose more taxes on themselves?

Pearl of Wisdom:

"Luke...we don't need to push any buttons with Daniel...he pushes his own self destruct buttons and we just sit back and watch."

From the videos, I see what you mean. Psst. I think Moishe is part of the Yossi Posse. :)

Luke.

Moishe:

"Yay! the kokkers are teaming up!!"

Sounds like fun. Where are you off to?

"How about you come and visit Monsey for a change, and stop walking down the streets of the public school parents in the slums of
Spring Valley?"

Visit Monsey? I live there. Whoa, "slums", wearing your bias glasses today.

"I follow gossip girl, stupid - not you."

I never watched that series but I hear you can get the entire DVD collection on Amazon. Enjoy!

"You just leech on to his site to kok with your kokker friends.""

Is that like she sells sea shells at the sea shore?

"Exactly - as long as it's not heavens forbid Daniel Schwartz oran orhthodox jew."

I know of Daniel Schwartz but I do not know Oran Orhtodox. What shul does he go to?

"now go back to your 90's chick flix. with your kokker friends that blog on this site without thinking."

I would have a truly difficult time diagramming this sentence. It could be just me though.

So in summation, I guess you are saying I would have to be a bias racist in order to support this Board. The problem Moishe, is I am not, so therein lies the problem.

Luke.

Mendel:

"Do you really expect a population that does not get any benefit out of the taxes they pay to impose more taxes on themselves?"

I know how you feel. I pay Social Security, Medicare, FED Unemployment and NYS Unemployment for myself and my employees and I have never benefited from one of them. I public school taxes, pay for Section 8 and Food Stamps and never benefited from them either. But I am sure you know it is not always about direct benefit, it is a matter of participating in a society called a democracy.

Luke.

Ok...I don't speak Yiddish...what is a kokker? Must be slang because it is not in the dictionary. Plz enlighten us.

Pearl of Wisdom:

ALTER KOCKER: An old and complaining person, an old fart.

The brain trust had spelling issues.

Luke.

From left to right: Sleepy, Bashful, Grumpy and Dopey.

Do either of the subs have children enrolled in the district?

Pearl of Wisdom:

BTW, have you noticed that the the quality of the Posse is a bit off today? More like ping pong than tennis. :)

Luke.

dh:

"Do either of the subs have children enrolled in the district?"

Pearl of Wisdom would probably know.

Luke.

He was right in eding the meeting early.
Most of the crowed were acting like wild animals.

Peope can use civil disobedience ,but it has it's consequences. Like ending a school board meeting early or arrest.

So Danny boy is afraid of listening to public school children speak. Maybe he needs the principal slapper from UTA to keep things in order.

BTW the "rumor" of Monday graduation started with Klein telling the Staff.

Can we get pictures of the chubby cheeks after he gets slapped around for being a bully?

"Peope can use civil disobedience ,but it has it's consequences. Like ending a school board meeting early or arrest."
Jake @ 03:31 PM

And racial segregation and wars.

Alter Kocker

The school board, even this one needs to act responsibly vis a vis the school district it controls. They need to be held accountable.

Your idea that only people who have or who have had children in the districts schools be permitted to be elected to the board won't work.

Ever here of taxation without representation?

or perhaps the following which treats everyone equally for many different things.

Pay as you go. You make a and baby your responsible for feeding it,housing it and educating it. No more Section 8,no more food stamps,no more Medicaid no more public schools,no more project head start( which hasn't worked in 50 years). Home school or pay someone else to teach your children. This idea applies to charedeim and everyone else.

We do need to help the needy.
But when needy becomes a acceptable norm we are in trouble.

Cabal Miscreant:

"Maybe he needs the principal slapper from UTA to keep things in order."

Oh right the one referred to as "slap happy" by the community PR guy. Slapping is permitted but "black and blue" is not. 'Kinda' like you can beat the %&%$# out of the children but just don't let anyone know.

I agree, he would make a great Board addition.

Luke.

Jake:

"But when needy becomes a acceptable norm we are in trouble."

Sage point !

Luke.

I totally agree that the school board should somewhat mirror the community and that includes representation by members who do not have children enrolled.

And I agree that we must help the circumstantial needy. But that is different than being bred to be needy.

I see. We gotta focus on typos otherwise we'll lose the argument. why focus on the real issues when you can focus on the typos?

Why focus on the real issues - that a large majority voted for Mr. Schwartz - when we can blame him for not playing nice in the sand box.

Why not look at the actual tax records of Rockland County and take each street separatly and see who really pays taxes in East Ramapo.

Because my name is:
Luke
Ruthie
Gossip Girl and the rest of the kokkers

BTW Luke: kokker is actually the correct spelling. It's from the old European yidish word Kakker. There was no "CK" in easten Europe.

But then again, we have already clarified that you type before you think. But go ahead, find more spelling errors and fail to respond to the actual argument.

I think Bernard Charles does have a kid in public school. Nathan does not. It doesn't make a fig of difference, Charles is only for show. Only in ER would you find an all white board, with a token AA guy willing to vote with the majority, females need not apply.

Luke thanks for the translation. So many names being called, hard to keep up.

Moishe:

"I see. We gotta focus on typos otherwise we'll lose the argument. why focus on the real issues when you can focus on the typos?"

I do focus on the issues Moishe. It is just that sometimes I get distracted when a poster goes off point and starts attacking with name calling or sometimes I am just too awed by the ignorance. :)

"Why focus on the real issues - that a large majority voted for Mr. Schwartz - when we can blame him for not playing nice in the sand box."

Me, I have never questioned the right of the Board to be seated. They were voted in and that is the voice of the people. It is the abhorrent and dismissive behavior I object to.

"Because my name is:
Luke
Ruthie
Gossip Girl and the rest of the kokkers"

Wow, you have similar names to a number of bloggers here. Cool.

"BTW Luke: kokker is actually the correct spelling. It's from the old European yidish word Kakker. There was no "CK" in easten Europe."

Whoa, East European Linguistics for $1,000.00, please. I actually got the $2,000.00 one correct yesterday. Oh, then why not write the entire post in Yiddish. :)

"But then again, we have already clarified that you type before you think. But go ahead, find more spelling errors and fail to respond to the actual argument."

I love the "we". Again, a bunch of men in black sitting around a single computer screen. Oh Moishe, you just don't get it. I have been responding to you all day but you do not get the essence of my responses. Try a re-read in a quiet room all alone.

Luke.

Pearl of Wisdom:

:)

Luke.

@DH

I love the way you phrased that circumstantially needy &bred to be needy. I wish I was so fascile in my wording.

I have to find the source again and it would explain it much better than I can but the equivilamt of 61% of GDP goes to benefit programs.

What will happen when it is 75%?

I often think at what point will I give up my American citizenship and take up my Canadian. Canada has a higher tax rate than the US and more restrictive gun rights but it is all different there. ( oh yeh the semi nationalized health care there stinks compared to the healthcare you get in the states as long as you have insurance.)

Luke, thank you for showing us your great debating skills. I think you and Ruthie should copulate so the world will not lose national treasures like the both of you. It's okay, you can leave Jeopardy on while you do it.

I'm done writing here. So go ahead Luke, finish it nicely with more brilliance, the board is all yours. and don't forget to find more typos.

Nathan Losman has no children in the public school system.

"The legal action requires board members Shlomo Pomerantz, Bruce Minsky, Nathan Losman, Shelly Karben, Jerald Wolfset, Seymour Ratner, David Resnick, Hanan Waizman and David Graubard to appear before the rabbinical court by March 9."

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2006/03_04/2006_03_02_Beg_ProminentRabbi.htm


I'm not sure about Mr. Charles but there is a conflict of interest with him regarding his wife.

If it makes you feel any better, I had to look up 'facile.' I'm superficial? Bummer.

No need to look anything up. I won't understand it anyway.

Moishe; you and yours - stay the f*ck out of Clarkstown.

Good job Luke, Pearl of Wisdom and

When will the East Ramapo School Board get a reality TV show?

Moishe:

"Luke, thank you for showing us your great debating skills."

Thanks man, I am a product of a really good Yeshiva. You?

"I think you and Ruthie should copulate so the world will not lose national treasures like the both of you."

Proves your point about staying on topic, NOT! If you were a true gentleman you would apologize to Ruthie. As I have said in other article blogs, when all else fails they debase to the vile. You proved it ! Thanks for the confirmation. Sorry Ruthie.

" It's okay, you can leave Jeopardy on while you do it."

I'd like to buy an F. Two words, use your imagination. :)

"I'm done writing here. So go ahead Luke, finish it nicely with more brilliance, the board is all yours. and don't forget to find more typos."

Say hello to Yossi ! Is he sitting around the computer screen or is he typing? :)

Luke.


"Good job Luke, Pearl of Wisdom

Thanks man.

Luke.

Sk...I know, there should be a reality show or a movie or a book. But I think Nathan Rothschikd was working on that. I am sure he has finished it by now with all that free time at club Fed. Should get more interesting around here when Nathan gives his testimony to the AG regarding the bid rigging on the Hillcrest and Colton schools.

Who would have ever thought we would look back at Nsthan's time on the board as the good old days! I would take Nathan over Daniel any day of the week...at least he smiled while he picked your pockets.

Pearl, Nathan Rothschild after picking your pocket would throw back some loose change so you wouldn't feel too bad for being ripped off!

As much as I disapprove of some actions by the president of the Board, I’m glad that public speaking from the students, my child included, will be removed, now Peggy, Steve and Tony will not be able to (ab)use the students of the district as pawns in their little ego fight.

Ill reiterate, Peggy Hatton has ruined this great district, first by triggering all the animosity, hate and mistrust, secondly and more importantly she and her minions have caused the district to spend millions of dollars on lawsuits and complaints, money that could’ve been spent for my child’s education in the class room.

Shame on them.

“Not in my name”…

Luke, for you I left some misspelled and grammatical mistakes so you can on what to comment.

Silent Majority or shall I say Wieder and minion Shaya. Look in the mirror for you destroyed the district. Wieder hired the Dog at double the price without even knowing the name of the firm or location of Dog's office. Both Wieder and Shaya campaigned to vote down every budget, even thought Wieder voted for it to bring to a vote.

Even the Bagel man told people to vote down every budget. Did they turn in the coupons for a free dozen bagels & lox?

We are sad not have Wieder anymore as President of the Board, at least his excuse was his yeshiva education or lack thereof for being so stupid. Wieder can still get a GED Diploma. Fill in your County Legislature information like all the others.

Silent, I wish you were silent. Peggy and Tony did not sign the lawsuit, that you say they started. The real issue here is that Schwartz and company threw the district into insolvency. The district chose the most expensive lawyers they could find. Are they getting a kickback? Stop insulting the ER kids, they speak for themselves and are not bring manipulated by anyone but the board. The board hatched the plot to prevent the kids from talking and then stormed off like petulant children when the kids reacted. Peggy and Tony seem to be your bogeyman...try to get out and take a deep breath.

Silent, stop masquerading as a public school parent. You are a Hasidic dude that likes to wear sweaters and drive the get away car for your friends. You do not speak for the public school community, not in our names!

If folks want an example why I’m advocating that we need a change in leadership for us, public school parents, the preceding comments are a perfect reason. Peggy, Steve Tony and others, yes even some in the PTA leadership have engaged in these kinds of rhetoric , now for a good few years. And what have they accomplished for us, ZERO. There is no trust, we have to face it we have no choice but to work with the current private school community and now there is no trust. Money that could have gotten into the public school classrooms is being spent on expensive attorneys (the board is wrong in hiring expensive attorneys, but it takes two to tango). I’ve heard from many parents that didn’t want to apply for the vacancies on the board for of fear of being vilified by Steve White, I’ve also heard that Suzanne Mercer resigned because she was pressured by the so called leadership, what a disgrace.

I’ll say it again, Peggy Hatton, Steve & Emilia White and Tony Luciano all don’t have children in our public schools. They are now on a little ego fight and my child is paying the price. Enough is enough.

“Not in my name”.

Luke, for you I left some misspelled and grammatical mistakes so you can on what to comment.

silent majority your just a wolf in sheep's clothing. Shaya, take off your sheep's clothing. Go back to Aron Wieder & Yossi (I'll defend the Hasadic Pedophile) Gestetner and get new material. Between the three of you can't you write better material?

This is why classical liberals (like myself) favor school choice.

Cabal Miscreant taxpayer :

I hear ya! The quality of the shills has been steadily declining in recent days. Silent Majority is by far the worst, not just for the lack of writing skills, but for the content. I am stressing though ;) She wants me to respond to :

"Luke, for you I left some misspelled and grammatical mistakes so you can on what to comment."

It might be me but, I think we are missing a critical verb here? Then again, what is a verb in the scheme of life?

Also, shill, I think responding here is a few days old. May I suggest a newer article. Good Shabbos !

Luke

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