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March 14, 2013

Israel’s Haredim Have Permission To Believe

Haredi man walking past soldiers at Kotel"…[D]on’t make the mistake of putting all the blame for this [haredi] delusion on haredim or on their theology, self-centered and exclusionary as it is. Some of it falls squarely on the often tiny and sloping shoulders of… " Whom?

Haredi man walking past soldiers at Kotel

To find out why haredim are delusional and to learn who shares the blame for it, you'll have to read the article I wrote for Newsweek/The Daily Beast's Open Zion blog today.

Link.

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great piece! yeyasher kochacha.

Excellent artical, it actually started when Ben Gurion exempted 400 yeshiva students and when Ben Gurion was kissing the kalusenberger rebbis ass by telling him that if you bring 100,0000 of your chassidim to make Aliya I will don a strimels on my head. Appeasement is faliure , bending over your ass and offering money to a segment in society to do just the oposite then the rest is a disastrous saga and now it exploded and the echo of this will be heard for years to come. I oppose welfare and I support the draft.

Jeez, you don't call, you don't write, we have to open the Newsweek to hear from you. Well, at least it's something.

Something good.

Great article Shmarya

The much bigger threat to Israel, to the Jewish People and to the Torah, are the settlers. Be'ezras Hashem the split between the haredim and the settlers (and their much more significant looting of the Israeli treasury) will end up in also stopping the suicidal and delusional utlra-nationalist politics of the past 40+ years.

About the settlers: there were no "west bank settlers" before 1967, yet Israel's regional problems predate the existence of settlers by many decades. The settlers did not cause the problem. Nor will the removal of the settlers solve any problems: the demands of the Arab neighbors will continue because the so-called West Bank is not the issue: all of Israel is the issue.

Bravo Shmarya!

Yashar Koach Shmarya. Good point, Yoel.

"there were no "west bank settlers" before 1967, yet Israel's regional problems predate the existence of settlers by many decades."

Right, because everything is totally fixed in time and no-one ever comes around to a different view.

It suits the settlers to (pretend to) believe that, all the while growing their enterprise and destroying any possibility of a Palestinian state and the move closer to apartheid.

Dovid, are you haredi who accepted the command of you leadership to attack religious zionists for "excluding haredi public from the goverment"?

You certainly are sounding like one - insencere, libelous and stupid.

Todah Rabbah, Shmarya.

"Dovid, are you haredi who accepted the command of you leadership to attack religious zionists for "excluding haredi public from the goverment"?
You certainly are sounding like one - insencere, libelous and stupid."
Posted by: Ben

No I'm not, idiot. But if I were, what difference would it make? Oh yes, it would lessen your ad hominem argument that consists solely of name-calling.

If you can do better, why don't you try telling me how what I said was "insencere, (sic) libelous and stupid."

In fact, you can start by explaining how the continuation of the settler enterprise will not culminate in either apartheid or ethnic cleansing? I'll be checking back after Shabbos to see what you came up with.

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