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March 14, 2013

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Dovid

"Dovid, are you haredi who accepted the command of you leadership to attack religious zionists for "excluding haredi public from the goverment"?
You certainly are sounding like one - insencere, libelous and stupid."
Posted by: Ben

No I'm not, idiot. But if I were, what difference would it make? Oh yes, it would lessen your ad hominem argument that consists solely of name-calling.

If you can do better, why don't you try telling me how what I said was "insencere, (sic) libelous and stupid."

In fact, you can start by explaining how the continuation of the settler enterprise will not culminate in either apartheid or ethnic cleansing? I'll be checking back after Shabbos to see what you came up with.

Jacob Mendlovic

Todah Rabbah, Shmarya.

Ben

Dovid, are you haredi who accepted the command of you leadership to attack religious zionists for "excluding haredi public from the goverment"?

You certainly are sounding like one - insencere, libelous and stupid.

Dovid

"there were no "west bank settlers" before 1967, yet Israel's regional problems predate the existence of settlers by many decades."

Right, because everything is totally fixed in time and no-one ever comes around to a different view.

It suits the settlers to (pretend to) believe that, all the while growing their enterprise and destroying any possibility of a Palestinian state and the move closer to apartheid.

Yochanan Lavie

Yashar Koach Shmarya. Good point, Yoel.

Harvey

Bravo Shmarya!

Yoel Mechanic

About the settlers: there were no "west bank settlers" before 1967, yet Israel's regional problems predate the existence of settlers by many decades. The settlers did not cause the problem. Nor will the removal of the settlers solve any problems: the demands of the Arab neighbors will continue because the so-called West Bank is not the issue: all of Israel is the issue.

Dovid

The much bigger threat to Israel, to the Jewish People and to the Torah, are the settlers. Be'ezras Hashem the split between the haredim and the settlers (and their much more significant looting of the Israeli treasury) will end up in also stopping the suicidal and delusional utlra-nationalist politics of the past 40+ years.

Ben

Great article Shmarya

dh

Jeez, you don't call, you don't write, we have to open the Newsweek to hear from you. Well, at least it's something.

Something good.

Moshe Aron Kestenbaum Williamsburg

Excellent artical, it actually started when Ben Gurion exempted 400 yeshiva students and when Ben Gurion was kissing the kalusenberger rebbis ass by telling him that if you bring 100,0000 of your chassidim to make Aliya I will don a strimels on my head. Appeasement is faliure , bending over your ass and offering money to a segment in society to do just the oposite then the rest is a disastrous saga and now it exploded and the echo of this will be heard for years to come. I oppose welfare and I support the draft.

ah-pee-chorus

great piece! yeyasher kochacha.

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