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March 24, 2013

Average Haredi Family Will Now Lose At Least $19,000 Per Year In Gov’t Subsidies, Haredi Mag Says

Haredi family 2The haredi newspaper Mishpachah reported this today that the new government’s coalition agreement will cost haredi families an average of NIS 6,000 ($1,641) every month in lost government benefits. Mishpachah reportedly estimates that the overall loss to the haredi community will be NIS 2.3 billion ($629,119,000) – the average haredi family will lose NIS 71,000 ($19,421) annually, Mishpacha reportedly claims.

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Average Haredi Family Will Now Lose At least $19,000 Per Year In Gov’t Subsidies, Haredi Mag Says
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

The Israeli business daily Globes reports that the haredi newspaper Mishpachah reported this today that the new government’s coalition agreement will cost haredi families an average of NIS 6,000 ($1,641) every month in lost government benefits. Mishpachah reportedly estimates that the overall annual loss to the haredi community will be NIS 2.3 billion ($629,119,000) – the average haredi family will lose NIS 71,000 ($19,421) annually, Mishpacha reportedly claims.

This estimate is about $5,000 per family higher than the estimate of haredi government benefits made months before the election by the religious freedom organization Hiddush.

The Hiddush calculation also included housing benefits.

But the new government plans to make employment a necessary criterion for the Ministry of Housing and Construction's subsidized mortgage program for young couples. Until now, because of haredi manipulation of the program, haredim have received preferential treatment to get discounted apartments, but the new work requirement would end this because so many haredim choose not to work.

Mishpacha reportedly estimates that the value of the program to haredim works out to about NIS 150,000 ($41,000) to NIS 200,000 ($55,000) – as much as 25% of the home's price on the free market. If haredim are banned from the program for refusing to work, they could lose NIS 1,500 ($410) per family per month.

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Good! If this excellent news does not put a bomb up the collective charedi backside then absolutely nothing else will.

I think you mean "per year," in the title. I was blown away for a second.

Good. Work for a living and study Torah as well. Im ein Torah ein kemach. Im ein kemach ein Torah.

You want an apartment work to rent or work to buy. No more handouts form healthyh people unwilling to work

I'm confused. Will chareidi families lose $19,000 a month, $19,000 a year? Please be more clear and less contradictory.

$1,641 sounds like a huge cut.

in fact, it sounds too huge to be true. are housing subsidies to be taken away from families that currently pay little or no rent?

what's the $1,641 consist of, and does it apply to families already dependent on government benefits or those newly entering the Israeli welfare system?

Michael, if you are really so confused, why didn't you bother to click and read the article that Shmarya linked? it says the loss will be "NIS 71,000 annually."

or you may be someone who does not believe it until you read it on FM. that I could understand.

Its about time this correction is administered,israel was on a course of self destruction,self-destruction by being to kind to youre enemies, kol hakavod to them.

To put things into proper context, just how much are they getting now?

So after pesach you will have 150,000 looking for work posts, it's about time, no more hand outs, genug gevain ,

Moshe Aron kestenbaum Williamsburg--I think the williamsbuger satmerers will pick up some of the tab,you heard of the satmerer emissary mendel wehllerstein coming here to raise money well he will work a little harder to fill in the gap.

It should only happen in Monsey, KJ, New Square and Brooklyn!

Best news I had all day, even better than being told my brisket for Pesach is better this year than ever. :)

Devorah: With the 5% sequestration now in effect, I suspect that many Federal social programs will be cut back as well. Social Security, veterans benefits and Federal debt payments are among the few programs that are exempt from the cuts. Monsey, KJ, New Square and Brooklyn will not be spared.

I don't imagine every Hareidi family accesses each of the programs in all of their dimensions. The amount is more likely the maximum potential benefit - but few are actually getting that much.

They're not embarrassed that they've been getting such ridiculous subsidies until now? Jeez!

This is the best news, since the invention of toilet paper.

This Pesach we begin to be liberated from our Charedi oppressors.

Chag sameach everyone!

Finally, they're making a dent. Now they just need to get to the next step - stop ANY subsidies. Open soup kitchens for children, the elderly and infirm. Otherwise, no handouts. In one generation you'll have those kids scrambling to sign up for the army because it will mean work and food and rent. You don't have to force them to serve in the army, just remove their free lunch. Ditto for paying for their schools without core curriculum being taught.

This is a refreshing start. Let's see the changes go into effect. The sooner the better! With enough changes like this I might even start buying Israel Bonds again.

"Boo-frickety-hoo!" Dr. Evil.

These cuts are too severe. If they go through there will be large scale riots and civil disobedience to charedi and other areas.

Ruthie:

"It should only happen in Monsey, KJ, New Square and Brooklyn!"

Hmmmm... Wondering out loud how some of my fellow yids in Monsey will be able to afford the Honda Odyssey lease and the Verizon data plan if benefits are reduced? No driving and no surfing, whoa!

Good Pesach All !

Just saying.... Luke.

Unfortunately, many educated in Chareidi schools are only capable of holding the most menial--and lowest paid--jobs. Reducing subsidies will have a profound effect on children: an abundance of research shows that when a family's economic circumstances worsen, child abuse increases. For these reasons, a reduction in benefits should be gradual--and before benefits are reduced, the Israeli government should insist that Chareidi schools teach math, modern Hebrew, and English so that the parents have a chance to compete in the job market.

I say reducing the subsidies will increase the impetus immensely on those that right now cant make up their mind if to work or learn,this is the best thing since sliced break:) wishing everyone a happy and a healthy pesach:)).

Meant to write increase the impetus to go to work for a living.

"For these reasons, a reduction in benefits should be gradual--and before benefits are reduced, the Israeli government should insist that Chareidi schools teach math, modern Hebrew, and English so that the parents have a chance to compete in the job market."

This would make tremendous sense and would be the humane approach if one was dealing with a population capable of integration.

The folks we are dealing with are being led by fundamentalist tyrants who do not care about the emotional or physical well being of their people.

Each Rabbi will try and outdo their colleagues with outrageous claims demonizing the welfare host, and demanding disobedience with any and all secular source demands.

The transformation of this culture into something more reasonable and healthy, if it will ever happen, will only happen with great pains.

Pard --Briliantly put, the words fundamantalist tyrants is exactly what theese holier then thou rebbis are.

This was needed all along. The Haredi leaders were all too happy to go along and teach their flock to game the system. Take all that secular Israel was giving away. Send your kids to schools where even the basic fundamentals were not taught and then tell you people that learning as they describe it will be sufficient for their children. The chickens, as they say, have come home to roost.

There will be wholesale abandonment of the yeshivas when there is no bread on the table and there are 4,5,6,7 etc mouths to feed and the rabbis put up their hands. There will be those rabbis that demand their accolytes protest in the streets. Will do them no good. Secular Israel heard the sound of their pockets being picked, and this time they said with a collective voice: NO. Get off your lazy good for nothing behinds and dig ditches if you have to. Take the menial jobs. You don't qualify for anything other than menial jobs. You want someone to blame, blame your rabbis and rosh yeshivot. They are the ones that steered you down a path of destruction. You and they wanted to be separate, you and they wanted Torah learning without paying attention to learning skills of survival, you and they wanted the secular Israelis to continue to make your and their lives easy and secular Israel finally wised up and told you where to go and how to get there. Don't cry about it, it's done!

while the surprisingly high monetarily figures are accurate - these cuts will never fully be realized

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