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February 01, 2013

Video: Family Of Satmar Rabbi Busted On Sex Abuse Charges Claims Rabbi Extorted, Charges False

Rabbi Yoel Malik (round)The mother of Rabbi Yoel Malik (pictured at right) denied that her 33-year-old son was a child sexual abuser, saying that he had "nothing to do" with teenage boys. She also alleges that Malik was extorted by a former yeshiva employee she does not name (but who allegedly is Moshe Pinter, who had his own brush with the law over child sex abuse allegations several years ago) for $10,000. Malik refused to pay him and the man allegedly responded by turning Malik over to the police by tipping off an anonymous rape hotline.

 

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If the victims are lying they are Aidim Zomemim and deserve the 20 years they wanto to impose on others.

But poor Moishy only wanted the 10k from poor Yoily to pay the bills of licensed therapists for his victims.

hello

there is something i would like to share.
when i was a yeshiva bochur i was atracted to young boys.i b'h never acted on it.
one day i met a girl in a restaurant we went out and the moment i kissed her i realised that all my feelings for sexual contact with children disapeard. it was that simple. no theraphy was needed. i then realised that the reason i had these urges before was that since i always had to keep away from girls i had no outlet for my natural sexual urges.
so i was atracted to watever was available. wich where the young children i met in shul, the mikve ,etc.. its just like what men do in prison when there is no alternative.
so the day i had my first kiss with a girl i was completaly cured. unfortunatly some people can not hold out that long.
the point is that its a fact that child sexual abuse is masive in the frum comunity and not having a normal outlet is one of the reasons.
thats why chazal say ben 18 lechupa. its not healthy or safe to go on for years with sexual represion.

Wahooo! This story is just getting better from minute to minute!

Now somehow they want all of us to believe that Yoily Malik was framed!

Moishy Pinter framed Yoily to go with 2 boys to a 1 bedroom hotel, and then also coordinated with 4 Bucherim to report to the police a false story, that they were forcefully raped, and according to the mother of the alleged abuser he did all this in order to extort $10,000?

Yesterday on CBS it was reported that Yoily Malik told detectives the victims made sexual advances toward him, but he refused.

This is one really odd conspiracy theory to cook up.

I would rather believe the story of 4 Teenagers claiming they were abused, by this monster.

As far as the mother is concerned Yoily never had a yeshiva, never dealt with teens at Risk, and never molested anyone, well i think someone should tell her that Yoily was never arrested.

Yea all of this is typical willi style, as the saying goes "i never borrowed money from you, and i long repaid it"

If this story turns out to be true, i think Moishy Pinter has secured himself a job at the CIA, this is a real mastermind.

Whether Rabbi Yoel Malik was extorted for money, or he did abuse, the conclusion is similar: Satmar is a criminal organization.

Antwerpian,

Thanks for the sharing-and cheers for being so brave to share. May be all these cases of paedophilia in Frumma society are because of teenage boys and young adults are totally and unnaturally isolated from their female age-mates?

a mother is a mother nothing to do with her being satmar

there seems to be witnesses wonder hat satmar will say now?

This is a continue story of the weberman case.In the days to come many other stories will surface because all these molestors were molested by the previous generation.Someone who was molested as a child 75% will molester when they grow up.
They should ban mikva for children under the age of 18 years old.Most of these problems also happen in the mikva and this gives all the so called religious molester urge to touch other people private parts.
The satmar community is a closed sector and they are all corrupt and stupid people.

hello

there is something i would like to share.
when i was a yeshiva bochur i was atracted to young boys.i b'h never acted on it.
one day i met a girl in a restaurant we went out and the moment i kissed her i realised that all my feelings for sexual contact with children disapeard. it was that simple. no theraphy was needed. i then realised that the reason i had these urges before was that since i always had to keep away from girls i had no outlet for my natural sexual urges.
so i was atracted to watever was available. wich where the young children i met in shul, the mikve ,etc.. its just like what men do in prison when there is no alternative.
so the day i had my first kiss with a girl i was completaly cured. unfortunatly some people can not hold out that long.
the point is that its a fact that child sexual abuse is masive in the frum comunity and not having a normal outlet is one of the reasons.
thats why chazal say ben 18 lechupa. its not healthy or safe to go on for years with sexual represion.

Posted by: antwerpian | February 01, 2013 at 04:46 AM


Wow, you are brave for admitting that. Do you think gays can also be magically cured by just kissing a girl?

@ Lubavitchers Are Christians |

Your question about curing gays was answered by antwerpian. It was his first point. He realized that kissing a girl brought pleasure. From what I've understood, gays don't get pleasure from physical contact with females.

Antwerpian-

Good points. For years I've said that charedi young men explore their sexual urges with male friends, because they have little social contact with girls. Also, they are told that any physical contact or seeing normally covered body parts is a sin and will lead to worse sins. Naive Chasanim sometimes become sick when learning what they have to do on the wedding night. It violates everything they ever learned.

It is just as possible that Malik was framed as stated. Charedim are experts at fabricating stories about people in their community they don't like for whatever reason.

Yes, they probably can even do it better than the CIA. However, the fabrications work best in insular communities who blindly follow leaders.

This MOSHE PINTER is a crook a thief ask anyone that knows him will tell you that, so the story might me true I could believe it.
MOSHE PINTER a crook he is 100% capable of doing such a thing ask around people that know him and you'll think like me.

They would have had to bribe the poor hispanic motel attendent also. He seemed fairly credible, although a bit "high."

Posted by: antwerpian | February 01, 2013 at 04:46 AM

What you saying is 100% correct, it is know that in a society that separates genders before marriage that sexual encounter with the same sex is prevalent. Because, that is human nature, it is called sexual exploration. Nevertheless, there is a caveat that you and the Rabbis are missing, this natural prevalence is among kids in the same age group. Here we are taking about an adult who is married and has 5 children to boot. There is no curiosity or exploration by this molester.
In my view that is exactly what all the Rabbis are missing, they remember as young adults, that sexual exploration was widespread they know what they and others did, nevertheless they outgrew it. They cannot and will not understand that as a child it was normal to explore but, as an adult it is called a “predator”.

kobe-Youre whole hassidishe world is messed up in the head,they interviewed the hotel manager on tv showed the room he took the boys it had a flat tv and porography showing on it 24 hours what in the universe was he doing with boys in a room like that you cant talk youreway out of this that what youre hassidishe friends are doing,you think the world is stupid and you guys are the smart ones,it is the exact oppisite,you are the biggest shoite if you beleive for one second that he was put up or blackmailed sick.

Posted by: kobe | February 01, 2013 at 09:57 AM

Let’s assume for argument sake, that you are right that Pinter is a thief and for good measure throw in couple extra bad traits. Now explain to us how did Pinter get this adult to this hotel room, with a child? Really use your brains, and ask yourself what could have propelled this older guy to spend 7 hours in this sleazy hotel.

As someone who knows Moshe Pinter from when he was a 5 year old boy, I believe that it's very possible that he found a way to fabricate a story. I'm not saying that Yoel is innocent or guilty, but Moshe is an expert at fabricating stories. When he was arrested in Belgium a few years ago, he put up a show that he only wants to eat kosher, till they brought him proof from the statements of the credit card that he stole that he was fressing in non-kosher restaurants. And I remember when he molested a few boys in the summer of 2001, and no one pressed charges against him yet. I hope some of them wake up and put him in jail for life. I can publish a book of stories that he had, including thefts, stolen credits, stealing from stores and private people and many other crimes. Why isn't anyone busy with him? I guess its because he doesn't have a beard, so its not that interesting for the press or the blogs.

Antwerpian, it is also quite natural in all societies for youth to feel confusing sexual urges and thoughts about their own gender. It must be so difficult, with four thousand years of acceptable pedophilia considered to be wise, combined with segregation and an inbred disgust for females.

Their children should all be removed.

With the Satmars so busy raising millions for lawyers defending their perverts, they'll have less money for expensive anti-Zionist ads in the NY Times and less time to organize anti-Israel demos at the Israeli consulate in Manhattan.

Kobe tell me what do you have with “Yoily Malik”?

Is he your brother, or your son, or your nephew, or a cousin, or even your grandson perhaps? Or is he related to your wife and her family in some way?

I ask because you have taken great pains to come up with this crazy conspiracy that somehow Moishy Pinter, made up a story and he got 4 bucherim to go to the police, with a story that Yoily Malik molested them, all because of revenge.

So he is probably either a relative of yours, or someone is paying you money to be his public relations “expert”.

Yoily Malik is a sick pervert and a Molester! he forcefully raped more then one bucher in yeshiva, there is solid evidence to back that, people need to understand that Yoily Malik was an authority figure that the parents entrusted with their children, and he used it to rob his victims innocence.

By no means do i claim that Moishy is a saint, but credit should be given when earned, he did the right thing to report this to the parents and authorities.

In the summer it was reported that Moshe Pinter was working for Yehivas Ohr Hameir, and that “8 years ago”, he had consensual … with a 17 year old, but since Moishy was 21 years old, and the victim was 17 years old – Under 18, he was forced to go for therapy – This info can easily be verified on E-Courts Online (Act Manr Injur Child 17).

Moishy didn’t belong in a yeshiva, because of his past, it was a stupid move from the staff to take someone with a history to have any contact with the yeshiva, but one thing this story proves, is that Moishe never touched a bucher in yeshiva, cuz if yes these bucherim would come forwards with their story.

Revenge or no Revenge, this story is all about what Malik did recently not what Pinter did 8 years ago !

TO an emeser yid,

Just simple plain, the media is focusing on Yoily Malik not because he has a big beard, but because he molested many many boys, 4 already came forwards and there are still 6 others who want to come forwards but the community is intimidating them, by posting names and photos on twitter and Facebook of all victims.

Why do you think the media should focus on moshe pinter, he didnt molest those 4 bucherim, Yoily Malik DID!

You are trying to compare this story with what Moishy did in 2001, "12 Years ago", when Moishy was "17 Years old", in yeshiva, Moishy wasn't an authority figure, Yoily Malik was!

Let’s even assume for argument sake, that you are right that Pinter is a thief and for good measure throw in couple extra bad traits. Please explain how does that make Yoily Malik clean?

Really use your brains, and ask yourself do you think that Yoily is innocent and all these bucherim just made up a story?

As you sow, so shall you rape.

I heard he comes from a very wealthy family his father just bought the grosswerdan shil in bp for almost 1 million doolar for his other son so his father will buy him freedom no doubt about it.

No one is saying that malik is Innocent

all we are saying is that people that know moshe pinter will tell you that he is 100% capable of setting this up buy bribing these boys or something

He is a con and a good one check his record and see how many charges were dropped including molestation

he gets the rabbanim to call and threaten the accusers

"again malik could be gulty as hell"

and knowing pinter a very smart and gr8 gr8 con I'm just not gonna run to judgment i would let it play out

donno, u know? --You are trul out of youre mind if you think this was a set up,you have no idea that what you are talking about only a yeshiva guy has no brains of what the reaL WORLD IS ABOUT to do such kind of set up is beyond a regular persons capability even for the cia i would be almost impossible to set this up you are tottaly out of touch with realit since you learn so much gemora you are detached from the real world i can cinfidently say that you are a shoite of gigantic proportion .

Hi "donno, u know?"

Please explain exactly how did Moishy Pinter frame Yoel Malik to take boys to a 1 bedroom motel, for 8 hours and pay for Porn Movies?

On CBS it was reported that Yoily Malik told detectives the victims made sexual advances toward him, but he refused.

Do you really think that a man can pull off that 6 kids should report to the police, they were molested, all of this to extort $10k?

Use your brains, do you really think that so many bucherim would come forwards if the story wasn't true?

Even if Moshe is very very smart, he cant pull off such a story, 1 thing this story proves, is that Pinter didn't touch any bucherim, cuz if yes they would come out against him too.

Hi,

to "Unbelievable", i have to believe that your are moshe pinter himself, otherwise there is no explanation why you are defending him like crazy.

you have here people writing that they know moshe pinter and he is a master criminal, that means that this person could do things that you would never figure out how he did it, and no one is saying that malik is innocent, all we are saying is that mr pinter is a criminal (child molester) him self and is capable of doing anything and everything.

oh! and by the way, you keep on saying that even the CIA would not be able to do a set up like this one, as if you know the CIA, the more you talk the more discredited you become.

now im waiting for your reply, i cant imaging how much hate against me will be there.

Think like a man --You casnt even think a little since youre a mindless programmed robot,youre gemoro kop caused dementia or act like a zombie,if you would know what youre saying you would commit youreself into a lunatic asylem you cant reason youre mind is warped,get it through youre thick gemoro robotisized brain if you have any no such thing what youre saying,you cant force someone to go pay for the hotel and say moshe planned this thing you are sick very very sick you guys cant take responsibility for youre action so you accuse others for what you did get help.

To "Think like a man" tell me what do you have with “Yoily Malik”?

Is he your brother, or your son, or your nephew, or a cousin, or even your grandson perhaps? Or is he related to your wife and her family in some way?

I ask because you have taken great pains to come up with this crazy conspiracy that somehow Moishy Pinter, made up a story and he got 4 bucherim to go to the police, with a story that Yoily Malik molested them, all because of revenge.

So he is probably either a relative of yours, or someone is paying you money to be his public relations “expert”.

Yoily Malik is a sick pervert and a Molester! he forcefully raped more then one bucher in yeshiva, there is solid evidence to back that, people need to understand that Yoily Malik was an authority figure that the parents entrusted with their children, and he used it to rob his victims innocence.

By no means have i claimed that Moishe Pinter doesn't have a criminal record, and im not defending him.

All i said was that Malik's mother is on National TV saying that the story is bogus and its an extortion.

Please explain exactly how did Moishy Pinter frame Yoel Malik to take boys to a 1 bedroom motel, for 8 hours and pay for Porn Movies?

On CBS it was reported that Yoily Malik told detectives the victims made sexual advances toward him, but he refused.

Do you really think that a man can pull off that 6 kids should report to the police, they were molested, all of this to extort $10k?

Use your brains, do you really think that so many bucherim would come forwards if the story wasn't true?

Answer dont twist

This story is all about what Malik did recently not what Pinter did 8 years ago !

Unbelievable --Answer dont twist..
twisting and dreikoping is theese guys character,they cannot take responsibility for their or their friends raltives actions so they concoct or fabricate a story that its a frameup someone is out to get them, they never never take any responsibilty for anything they do its like the devil made me do it,

To Unbelievable & jancsibacsi
I see you guys don't know moshy pinter.

I guess all defense lawyers, investigators, are dreikoping thick gemoro robotisized brain b/c they think outside your box.
Smart people think

We want the real criminal off the street Jew or gentile

We have a gr8 democratic system I guess you like the Arab or Chinese system better they do your thinking

good luck

No robot-NEITHER DID WE KNOW NECHEMYE WEBERMAN,BUT WE DO HAVE COMMON SENSE THAT IT SEEMS YOU LACK TREMENDOULSLY.

Hi "No robot"

Exactly as i thought, if you cant give a strait answer u try to twist it, and make it sound like some conspiracy movie.

Answer the question, Do you really think that a man no matter how smart, can pull off that 6 kids should report to the police, they were molested, all of this to extort $10k?

Also please explain exactly how did Moishy Pinter frame Yoel Malik to take boys to a 1 bedroom motel, for 8 hours and pay for Porn Movies?

Use your brains (if you have any), think out of your little conspiracy box, do you really think that so many bucherim would come forwards if the story wasn't true?

If you really want the real criminal off the street, as you say, focus on Yoel Malik!

Unbelievable-It looks like he is a family member,and the truth is the last thing he wants to know about,reality is his enemy.

To Intimidating Witnisses, not the beard,

By the way, Moshe was over 18 at that time, and as i said already, that I'm not saying that Malik is innocent. The interesting part is, that when Moshe committed all his crimes, it never made it to any of the front pages in the news, while this person who we're not sure yet, made it to the front page. BECAUSE THE FRONT PAGE LOOKS BETTER WHEN THEY HAVE A PICTURE OF SOMEONE WITH A LONG BEARD!!!

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