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February 05, 2013

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rebeljew

Jewish Sciences????

Biology 204 - How the four humors balance to maintain health.

Biology 205 - How living creatures are spontaneously generated from dirt, sweat and garbage

Physics 408- The interoperation of earth, air, fire and water.

Astrophysics 309- How the planets orbit within their tracks around the earth

Geology 402 - Structure of the waters of above the opaque "rakia" and below the earth. How the sun moves on its track to warm the water, according to both models

Archaeology 306 - The search for Sichon and Og, and other giants

Doctorate offered in Biology with dissertation on the use of amulets in medical practice.

MosheCohen

* there are no papers being written in yeshiva
* there are no tests that really count for anything
* there are no grades (we had fake grades reported to ARTS that the yeshiva used to scam the federal government out of money)
* there is no temporal goal for all of this "learning" (unless you want to lie, like some of my fellow alumni have, and tell law schools or other professional schools that the yeshiva issued you a degree)

Posted by: Nigritude Ultramarine | February 06, 2013 at 07:19 AM

As a Charedi ex-Yeshiva/kollel student now studying in college, I begrudgingly agree.

I was under the mistaken impression that 5 years of learning Gemora half-heartedly in Yeshiva and Kollel, with no tests, no emphasis on memory retention, no real pressure on regular and faithful attendance, would enable me to saunter through college.

Well, I was wrong!

Nigritude Ultramarine

Jewish Sciences

A new department of learning has been unearth. I think this is another way of saying: Spending a god-awful amount of years hanging out in the coffee room of a yeshiva avoiding the draft.

"[...] just like many humanities students at Israel's universities do."

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Right. Speaking as someone who escaped college with a B.S. degree -- who also found time to complete numerous credit hours in the humanities -- and as someone who also spent time "learning" in a yeshiva, I can unequivocally report, there is no comparison between the two modes of education when it comes to quality and rigor.

Let's enumerate:

* there are no papers being written in yeshiva
* there are no tests that really count for anything
* there are no grades (we had fake grades reported to ARTS that the yeshiva used to scam the federal government out of money)
* there is no temporal goal for all of this "learning" (unless you want to lie, like some of my fellow alumni have, and tell law schools or other professional schools that the yeshiva issued you a degree)

Jeff

Biggest pile of manure I've seen in some time. I realize it's an op ed piece, but Ynet shouldn't have published it if it wants to be regarded as a legitimate news site.

moti

dh - what is hiralical?
Methinks you need to study English too

Bob Guthrie

I would tell these extremist Chareidim the same thing I tell extremist Evangelicals and Fundamentalists wishing to teach Intelligent Design over Evolution to their children: "Go for it!. =D"

(See how much fun your progeny will have when dealing with the normal 21st Century world when they grow up). >=)

Yochanan Lavie

The Nazis talked about "Jewish Science" to discredit Freud and Einstein. No sense of history- these chareidim.

dh

Jewish Sciences? That is hilarical! I'm sure the "sciences" include The History of Predatory Pedophiliac Rabbis, The Psychology of Victimization and Great Literature including Manny Mans-Up With a Mini Muschka.

Jewish Sciences. That's rich.

Flatbusher

In America the average Hasidic graduate, can't read a 6th Grade Science workbook, and their spelling skills is about 4th Grade.

You may try this experiment at home: Take a 4th grade spelling book list, and dictate to the average Hasidic yungerman between 20 & 30 and see what you get.

A Shame and a tragedy.

AztecQueen2000

You can't have it both ways. Either the school teaches the state curriculum and gets full state funding (and I don't think civics, history, science, or math are in any way "heresy studies"), or you thumb your nose at the rules and have to fund it yourself. This is why laws exist.

danny

Article title not makes sense danny argues

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