For The First Time In Years, Hasidic And Non-Hasidic Rabbis Meet

In what is being called a rare and historic event, haredi rabbinic leaders from the hasidic and non-hasidic factions that make up the haredi United Torah Judaism political party met last night in Bnei Brak in what onlookers called an "emergency meeting” to plan resistance to the looming military draft of haredim.

For The First Time In Years, Hasidic And Non-Hasidic Rabbis Meet To Plan Resistance To Military Draft
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

In what is being called a rare and historic event, haredi rabbinic leaders from the hasidic and non-hasidic factions that make up the haredi United Torah Judaism political party met last night in Bnei Brak in what onlookers called an "emergency meeting,” Ynet reported.

The subject of this “emergency meeting”?

The looming draft of haredim into Israel’s military and the forced end of the nearly unanimous haredi evasion of military service.

The Council of Torah Sages met at a hotel owned by Vizhnitzer hasidim. The non-hasidic Degel Hatorah faction’s spiritual leader, 98-year-old Rabbi Aharon Leib Shteinman, chaired the meeting. Sitting by his side were the Gur, Vizhnitz and Belz Rebbes. The rabbis close aides stood behind them.

“[The Council] is shaken, frightened and deeply depressed by the wave of incitement from the residents of Israel against haredim.…This is a special request for the heads of the government: Do not deviate, not even a bit, from the traditional treatment of Torah students [i.e., funding their studies and exempting them from military service through their entire adult lives as long as they study in yeshiva full time] or anything pertaining to the Jewish character of the country," a statement issued by the rabbis reportedly read.

 "This is a historic meeting. Degel Hatoroah's Council of High Torah Sages has not met in 16 years. In a sense, it has been recreated today. I think this testifies to the significance of the hour at hand. More than 20 leaders of the Torah world sat together around a single table, all very elderly, to express their sadness at the edicts. The height of the event was when Rabbi Shteinman wept; everyone understood,” Israel Cohen, a Vizhnitzer hasid who works as a journalist for the prominent haredi publication Kikar Hashabbat, told Ynet.

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Comments

[Garnel Ironheart]

With apologies to Yochanan Lavie and the Jew-hating Roger Waters:

Take all your overgrown chasidim away somewhere
and build them a shteibl, a little place of their own
The Degel HaTorah
shul for senile rebbes and roshei yeshiva
and they can pasken to themselves every day
and write up pashkevils
to make sure they're still real
it's the only connection they feel
"Rabosai, please welcome Maran Shteinman and haGaon Wosner
The Gerrer Rebbe and his askanim, the Belzer and Vishnitzer
The mashgiach of Mir
The mekubalim of Meah Shearim
And the Satmar contingent
and now adding colour a group of anonymous Klei Kodesh from Brooklyn and New Jersey
did they expect us to treat them with any respect
they can write up their teshuvos and sharpen their drashos, and amuse themselves playing God's policemen for a while
Oy, oy, vey, vey, who let the shaygitz into this room
Safe behind the iron mechitza behind a brick wall
with their favourite seforim
they'll be good rebbeim
in the Degel HaTorah shul for out-of-touch reactionaries
is everyone in?
are you having a nice time?
now we can stop paying attention to you

[Barney]

http://www.bhol.co.il/article.aspx?id=50654

[Adam Hasheni]

United Torah Judaism is neither United, Torah, nor Judaism. Discuss amongst yourselves.

[Eric]

This must be stopped. Israel need the haredim in the IDF or they will be in big trouble if there god forbid is another war.

[Yoel B]

7 current seats and the party "leadership" hasn't sat down at the same table in 16 years. I used to think I.B. Singer wrote fiction.

[Office of the Chief Rabbi]

The Elders of Zion promulgating their protocols.

[ah-pee-chorus]

United Torah Judaism is neither United, Torah, nor Judaism. Discuss amongst yourselves.

Posted by: Adam Hasheni |

excellent.

[Yosef ben Matitya]

oh! they are meeting? just like
כַּרְשְׁנָא שֵׁתָר אַדְמָתָא תַרְשִׁישׁ, מֶרֶס מַרְסְנָא, מְמוּכָן

[thelionroars]

the song could read send in the clowns

or beat up the bostoner rebbe who wished to attend

these clowns are destroying judiasm

[John Nagle, Silicon Valley, CA]

More than 20 leaders of the Torah world sat together around a single table, all very elderly, to express their sadness at the edicts.

The Israeli anti-draft movement is led by elderly people. Not young people who are scared of being drafted. After service in the IDF, young people are free to run their own life. They have some real-world skills. That's what scares the beards. It's all about power. Not religion.

[Yosef ben Matitya]

For The First Time In Years, Hasidic And Non-Hasidic Rabbis Meet

well, ellu neveilos, ve-ellu treifos!

[zionist goy]

"Israel need the haredim in the IDF or they will be in big trouble..." Even an outsider can see this. It will happen to some extent after alot of turmoil, because it HAS to happen.What kind of man can feel justified in allowing a woman to defend a nation in his stead?

[Jeff]

Nothing unites warring factions like having a common enemy.

Really, they should have had someone playing the "Godfather" theme. It's reminiscent of the meeting of the heads of the Five Families.

What an insane, isolated world.

[adam]

My family is MO. But learned about a month ago that my father who was born in 1946 avoided the draft for Vietnam by claiming he was studying for the clergy which the way he told him it was a scam and he is not a Rabbi but the Rabbis have no problem for the families they like to do this. Only men they don't like should find endless wars and they overcompensate by being war-mongering when they would get their own son out. That is why my parents love MO because it got my father out of this. Nothing to do with morality or decency. Wonder how many other MO's born around my fathers time are MO just for this reason as they got ahead of other men who did serve.

[jancsibacsi]

adam-I am one of them,i am a son of holocaust survivors dont you think we went through alot too many of us were killed, in the 60 s that was the thinking behind not going to wars are youre parents also holocaust survivors children?

[yussi]

the hasidic blue bloods is finaly here;

http://www.cbs.com/shows/blue_bloods/video/

[A. Nuran]

The tapeworms and the lice have a historic meeting because the host considers using albendazole and permethrin

[zelig]

עמון ומואב טיהרו 'בשׂיחון' שרולי-ומענדל, בּער-ודריי/דל