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February 22, 2013

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Abu Jihad Schneerson

It's become an almost daily thing all over the world!Let's hope this will bring the decline and ultimately the end of this pagan cult of sorcerers called chabad!Speedily in our days!

Runner1983

There is nothing more important in any community than protecting children from sexual abuse. There have been so many incidents of reported abuse within the haredi community by the Jewish and secular press, any rational and caring community would commission a study to determine whether the incidence of child sexual abuse is higher within the haredi community than within the non-haredi Jewish community.

Why has this study not been launched by the haredi rabbis? Is it because they already know the answer, and they are more interested in protecting their culture (cult) than in protecting children? Assuming such a study, if in fact performed, shows a higher incidence of sexual child abuse within the haredi community compared with the non-haredi Jewish community, the next rational step would be to determine why, and take proactive steps to make changes in the cultural or other practices to stop the abuse.

If there is a higher incidence of child sexual abuse within the haredi community, could it be that it is caused by the unnatural separation of boys and girls at such a young age, that some boys are unable to develop the needed interpersonal skills to deal with girls, and keep their hormones under control, which manifests itself in later life? If so, this undermines the entire haredi culture.

Perhaps a sociologist should undertake an insependent study and publish the results. This way, the study would have more credibility.

smile!

How is it possible that they only arrested the principla for non-reporting and not the actual perpetrator? Has he fled the country?

smile!


Sorry. I wish I could figure out spellcheck and bolding on this comment page.
That is "principal"

Shmarya

How is it possible that they only arrested the principla for non-reporting and not the actual perpetrator? Has he fled the country?

Posted by: smile! | February 22, 2013 at 07:25 AM

He was arrested in Marseille.

seymour

Perhaps a sociologist should undertake an insependent study and publish the results. This way, the study would have more credibility.

Posted by: Runner1983 | February 22, 2013 at 07:16 AM

not for them they do not believe the study that MP is dangerous why should this be different.

smile!

Yikes! Was that Marseille par. added after or are my reading skills lacking today?

WoolSilkCotton, I am a work of art as well as a sports and rock superstar

This is all because of the internet and the secular and women not having enough tznius.

Shmarya

Yikes! Was that Marseille par. added after or are my reading skills lacking today?

Posted by: smile! | February 22, 2013 at 07:57 AM

It was probably added while you were posting your comment.

Runner1983

Seymour, in response to my post suggesting that a sociologist undertake an independent study of the issue of sexual abuse within the haredi community, you write: "Not for them they do not believe the study that MP is dangerous why should this be different."

Yes, I agree. They will believe nothing if it criticizes their cultural norms and way of life. They simply will not change, even if a haredi practice is shown to be harmful (to a child), such as MBP. If the Torah stated that slavery was permitted, they would try own slaves.

Haredim live in a world of darkness. Probably the most effective of cults. The way they live has nothing to do with religiosity, and everything to do with power and control over people. They are a huge embarrassment!

R. Wisler

RTL is a French languge Luxembourgian radio station (Radio-Television Luxembourg), not a French radio station....

Barry

One must always understand that when someone has a conflict of interest, his judgement becomes impaired and therefor any attempt at resolving that conflict of interest must be taken out of his hands. If you leave the conflicted person to try to resolve the conflict he will naturally try to do so by deluding himself that this conflict does not exist.

Normally a school's and its student's interests are shared. So good educational results for a student are good not only for the student but are good for the school's reputation. However whenever a report of sexual abuse occurs that normal state of affairs falls apart. The school administrator becomes conflicted. On the one hand, he needs to promote the schools reputation which means covering up the abuse, whilst on the other hand, the child's interest require the child to be treated which will lead to investigation and possible prosecution which will damage the schools reputation even if it was not seriously at fault. This conflict of interest is resolved by a process of denial that there is a conflict. The school quietly gets rid of the teacher but kids itself that this cover up is not being just done for its own interest but is also being done in the best interests of the child after all he is too young to be believed, the court process will disturb him, his family reputation will be ruined etc.

That is why is ALL allegations of abuse, however implausible, must with no exception be reported to social services. This does in no way imply that school administrators are particularly corrupt or selfish. They are human just like everyone else and because of that they must not be allowed to exercise judgement in cases where they may be conflicted.

The rabbis pretend that they can act like 'government' or 'the police' to independently judge whether abuse has occurred. This is a fantasy. The relationship between clergy and religious schools is very close, most clergy being or having been involved in religious education. This is unlike the 'outside world' where judges and police have no direct and strong relationships with schools which could compromise their independence. The cosy relationship between clergy and religious schools explains why in cases where the interests of the schools and that of the child conflict, one should not allow the clergy to resolve that conflict.

chaim36

Since the death of the rebbee [obm] most of Chabad have lost a sense of direction.The neo christian messianics have hijacked the movement the rebbee [obm] started. They have become professional shnorers.

Jake

The head of the Yeshiva is a idiot.

The head of chabad did the right thing.

I am happy to know that France has laws with teeth that go after those who protect abusers.

ah-pee-chorus

The head of chabad did the right thing
Posted by: Jake

who? what did he do?

nachos

This article is obviously not true.

"Media reports say the rabbi is a principal at Chabad’s Bais Chana school in Paris, and that he also teaches math there"

Since when is Math taught at a Chabad school?

Jake

Nachos
Why not?

Sarek

Runner: If the Torah stated that slavery was permitted, they would try own slaves.

Leviticus lists several rules for owning & treating your slaves. This was used as justification for slavery in the U.S. South (and probably lots of other places.)

dd

paris , brooklyn , russia, australia , ....everywhere .......

ppl who send their kids to a chabad school take big risks .

Ben

Jake,
The head of Chabad have done the right thing???? He prohibited parents to go to the police to protect the name of Chabad and the Rebbe. How is that is "the right thing" in your mind?

mendel

Since the death of the rebbee [obm] most of Chabad have lost a sense of direction.The neo christian messianics have hijacked the movement the rebbee
Chaim36--
You,like others of your ilk on this blog, don't have a clue. We did not hijack anything from the Rebbe shlita; we merely continue what he taught:

Moshiach was revealed, awaiting acceptance by Israel
Sicha of the Lubavticher Rebbe, Parshas Vayera 5752 (1992)
italics in original

There is added emphasis in our generation in which the service to bring the geulah in actuality via Dovid Malka Meshicha is completed and finished, and in the words of the holy Rebbe my father-in-law, Nosi Doreinu [leader of our generation--ed.], during his lifetime in this world that we have already completed and finished all the avodah, and we are standing ready for the acceptance of Dovid Malka Meshicha. And how much moreso after the continuation of the avodah of spreading the wellsprings outward over the course of 40 years [1951-1992 --ed.], in a way that "Hashem has given you a heart to know, eyes to see, ears to hear."

[...] In addition to what was explained that the metzius of Moshiach exists in the spark of Moshiach (Yechida) in every single Jew, the metzius [reality] of Moshiach exists also b'pashtus [simply and really --ed.] (Yechida klolis) -- as is konwn that "in every generation there is born one from the seed of Yehuda who is suited to be Moshiach for Yisroel" "one who is suited by his righteousness to be the redeemer, and when the time arrives Hashem will reveal to him and send him, etc." and if unwanted matters would not get mixed in and obstruct and interfere, etc., he would be revealed and come in actuality.

And according to the announcement of my father-in-law the Rebbe, Nosi Doreinu, the Moshiach of the generation*, that all matters of avodah have been finished and completed and we are standing ready for the acceptance of Moshiach Tzidkeinu, thus in our days all the obstructions and interferences have been nullified. And because of this there is (not only the metzius of Moshiach, but rather) also the hisgalus [revelation] of Moshiach, and now we need only to accept Moshiach Tzidkeinu in actuality!
cut and pasted by Mendel

Jake

Ben
Whoops you are 100% right.

I misread something. I made a mistake.

Both the head of school and Paris chabad were wrong.


Abu Jihad Schneerson

mendel,chabad is a sick,pagan,racist cult of superstitious sorcerers!
The Rambam turns in his grave whenever you lot go to the Ohel to worship your DEAD demi-G-d,perform ridiculous rituals like kapparot or teach that Jews are the master race,while goyim are untermenschen!
You have nothing to do with Judaism!
Btw,shouldn't you be on your way to Rome to listen to the last speach of the Pope like the other Xtians?

mendel

Btw,shouldn't you be on your way to Rome to listen to the last speach of the Pope like the other Xtians?
Abu--
After you read my post fom the words of the Rebbe, you still can only make a calumny? You wouldn't know Judaism if your life depended on it-- and it does.

s Sudry

Let's be clear here. Mergui is an ass h... Always been.
However Azimov is the guy that should be arrested. He always protects the predators and ignores the victims.
Mergui is from the old school and runs his school like a
A church. He will have to learn one day that there is a g-d beside Moule Azimov. Azimov is old and cannot run this community any longer.
This is not a happy time for no one. But it's good to see justice prevail.

Shmarya

…After you read my post fom the words of the Rebbe, you still can only make a calumny? You wouldn't know Judaism if your life depended on it-- and it does.

Posted by: mendel | February 22, 2013 at 03:53 PM

I didn't realize the inmates locked in Bellevue's psych ward had computer access.

Did the wardens give you permission, mendel? Or are you breaking the rules?

Abu Jihad Schneerson

mendel,Vhabad believe G-d is physically present in every Jew's soul and that is mamash kefirah as rav Eleazar Schach said!
This,with the belief your rebbe resurrected from the dead,makes you guys Xtians!

dh

@ Shmarya

meanie

Emanuel newgant

You've done the impossible shmayra. The Melbourne trolls have gone silent.

Ben

Azimov is old and cannot run this community any longer......

Posted by: s Sudry | February 22, 2013 at 03:55 PM

Azimov is not old

Blake More

The fact that we never hear of such problems in some other religious groups does not mean that there are no issues of child sex abuse in those groups. This reporting makes it sound like a Jewish problem, which it is not ... not exclusively.

Editor

The fact that we never hear of such problems in some other religious groups does not mean that there are no issues of child sex abuse in those groups. This reporting makes it sound like a Jewish problem, which it is not ... not exclusively.

Blake More –

Right. Absolutely. No one has ever heard of the pedophilia scandal in the Catholic Church or the one in Penn State. No one. Its as if theres some kind of conspiracy to make Jews look bad by reporting the scandals in Chabad. [/end extremely heavy sarcasm]

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