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January 12, 2013

Zionist Orthodox News Site Sees Nazi Germany In Arab Snowball Attack

Two haredim attacked by Arabs near Damascus Gate with snowballs on Shabbos 1-12-2013“A disturbing video…shows a group of about 20 Arabs ganging up on two helpless Hareidi Jews, kicking one of them, hurling snowballs in their faces and humiliating them.…Many find the scene reminiscent of 1930s Germany, at least in terms of the Arabs' sheer gall and feeling of invulnerability.”

 

Introducing the above video, Aruzt Sheva writes that, “a disturbing video…shows a group of about 20 Arabs ganging up on two helpless Hareidi Jews, kicking one of them, hurling snowballs in their faces and humiliating them.…Many find the scene reminiscent of 1930s Germany, at least in terms of the Arabs' sheer gall and feeling of invulnerability.”

Arutz Sheva then somberly (and inaccurately) notes that "[o]ther Arabs who used the snow as a pretext for attacking Jews were less fortunate, as plainclothed police leapt out of an unmarked car and arrested them." And Arutz Sheva posted the following video, which you should recognize, to support that claim:

 

But what Aruzt Sheva doesn't do is post the companion video to this, which you'll be familiar with because I posted it and the previous video Thursday:

 

You can see the haredim were not passive, that they violated the law, that they attacked the Arabs at various points in time, and they disregarded police orders to stop.

Even so, none of the haredim were arrested. Only Arabs were arrested.

This does not excuse the subsequent Shabbat snowball attack on those two haredim shown in the first video.

But it does, however, give that video the proper context that Arutz Sheva's report does not give.

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These Arabs should drop dead. We will never be able to live in peace with them in our midst. The sooner we separate ourselves from them the better.

there are good and kind arabs too.

i feel bad for the 2 charedim.
i bet most charedim who hear of this will be upset too. would they be less upset if this took place on a friday and the arabs throwing the snowballs were shouting "FRIDAY" and were angered by the charedim for disrespecting their holy day?
or does that only work when charedim are stoning their fellow jews on saturday?

maybe the charedim should learn from this that dressing in clothes considered 'untzniusdik' by muslims will get you attacked. would it have helped if the arabs called them sluts and whores while they spit on them?

that said, i repeat, this attack is upsetting and unacceptable. i'm just making a point.

Many find the scene reminiscent of 1930s Germany

Could we please stop invoking the Nazis for anyone other than actual Nazis?

The world is unfortunately riddled with cultures and segments of society which are taken to frenzied mob violence at the drop of a hat. Palestinian society unfortunately has a lot of these elements, and it's only egged on with the militant Islamic brainwashing.

But Sol's plan of "separating ourselves" from a population of 4-5 million people is impossible. Like it or not, we have to figure out a way to live together.

This video is definitely reminiscent of how the nazi youth would treat Jews on any given day, without any provocation. Coming to a town near you.

Remember that the nazis first took away the guns from the German citizens...... And the rest is history.

It seems implausible that the two videos should be of the same scene: one is by day, the others are by night. I suppose there is no connection between them.

"But it does, however, give that video the proper context that Arutz Sheva's report does not give."

What context?
Two young jews are attacked, mocked for no reason by a mob.You give "context"?>
What a fucken kapo you must've been in your other incarnation.
Eat shit,assehole.

It seems implausible that the two videos should be of the same scene: one is by day, the others are by night. I suppose there is no connection between them.

Posted by: soso | January 13, 2013 at 02:24 AM

If you mean this seriously, go back and read what I wrote.

The event in the two evening videos preceded the Shabbos attack on the two haredim, which took place nearby.

Now ask yourself a question. You see opponents breaking the law. They also outnumber you.

But police only arrest you and two others on your side and leave the other side – the side to which the police belong – alone.

Might you not think the deck is stacked against you? Might you not feel like taking some form of revenge?

My point is that if Arutz Sheva was going to post one of the night videos, it should have posted the other.

It did not, I think, because doing so weakened its desired storyline – bad Arabs; good Jews.

And that is despicable.

"But it does, however, give that video the proper context that Arutz Sheva's report does not give."

What context?
Two young jews are attacked, mocked for no reason by a mob.You give "context"?>
What a fucken kapo you must've been in your other incarnation.
Eat shit,assehole.

Posted by: James | January 13, 2013 at 03:44 AM

Were you born this stupid or did you acquire your lack of mental prowess in yeshiva?

Nothing happens in a vacuum, little man, and as much as you shout and pout and call me names, that fact will not change.

In your pathetic little excuse for a mind, Jewish attacks on Arabs are justified by what Arabs have done to Jews, but Arab attacks on Jews are never justified, no matter what might have been done to provoke them.

But the truth is that both are wrong, and both can be in part understood by the context that surrounds them.

Of course, that presupposes having a functional level of intelligence combined with the desire to know the truth – two things you utterly lack.

What money your parents wasted on whatever education they gave you. They should sue your rabbis.

NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE!?? I'm so angry watching this happen and no one does anything!!

These Hareidim should join the army and instead of throwing snowballs should use the real thing - BULLETS!

Shmarya - you're a sick animal to think that an attack on 2 innocent kids needs context.

If any violence was done to Arabs that was also wrong, but how you can think that an attack on 2 innocent kids needs context just shows your sick, twisted, warped, messed up, mind.

Just put yourself in the place of those two innocent kids, and it would need no context at all.

Or better yet, put one of your precious Africans in their place, then it would truly be a travesty.

But thanks for again demonstrating that you're one sick, messed up, sad dude.

sicko --You are truly a sicko do you know what shmarya wrote that nothing happenes in a vacum,that should explain everything here but no you seem to be overtaken by emotion that is clouding youre mind,theese 2 hassidishe boys thought that since they are anti israel they would be safe well no one is safe from people who let their emotion dictate their lifes and youre one of them.

Shmarya. While there are many things that you write that appalls me as an Orthodox Jew. I believe that you are wrong in placing ANY context to the public humiliation and cowardly attack on these two guys. If you truly want truth then you would recant your untrue position. I know I seek truth - do you? or are you just so angry that you cannot see truth?

Do the Haredi men who throw stones at people and cars they don't like ever get arrested?

If the chareidim are afraid of the Arabs, why don't the chareidim want to serve in the army?

luckily these 2 charedim were untouched and none of the snowballs hit them, despite any visual evidence to the contrary. thats because at that same time many other charedim were learning torah thus protecting them and all of klal yisroel from harm. i now see theyre right and understand why they'd prefer to be living under arab rule.
and i agree that the order of events provides context though not justification, just as shmarya wrote.

jancsibacsi An emotional diatribe about people using emotion?

ah-pee-chorus The only point you are making is that you are unable to comment without making an irrelevant attack on Chareidm. There are times to make your point, but to constantly attack without context borders on the pathological.

Klonimous -Good that you joined the emotionally charged people welcome to the club:)

Shmarya can always add "context" to the Holocaust and what "preceded" it.
He and Lord Haw-Haw, Tokyo Rose and Norman Finkelstein.
What a douche-bag.
Rot in hell

If these two boys were blacks, would we be looking for context? No, we would call the attackers racist. So why are these two innocent Haredi boys different? Because we have a blind hatred for Haredim and a blind love of blacks.
And this is very reminiscent of the blind hatred the German nazis had for Jews.
Of course, cognitive dissonance will prevent some from seeing this.

Klonimous -

my pointing out the hypocrisy of charedim and their supporters and enablers is quite relevant. innocent people being attacked is a favorite pastime of theirs. they deserve to have scorn heaped upon them at all times. if you cant see that or dont like it.....too bad.

Shmarya and his cult followers are like the modern day version of kapos. I wouldn't be surprised if given the chance they'd join in pummeling and attacking those Jews... Heil shmarya

"Mosh", these haredim will never join the idf so long as thier rebbes indoctrinate them with the delusion that thier incessant toreh study does more to secure Israel than military could ever do. while frummies seem fun for thier exuberance of worship, the M.O. are so much more sane and rational. they are the mettle of israel.

"Shmarya and his cult followers are like the modern day version of kapos. I wouldn't be surprised if given the chance they'd join in pummeling and attacking those Jews... Heil shmarya "

I agree. You wonder why Shmarya and his neanderthal gang are so anti-Jewish.

Were they molested as children?

Shmarya and his cult followers are like the modern day version of kapos. I wouldn't be surprised if given the chance they'd join in pummeling and attacking those Jews... Heil shmarya

Posted by: Ogenbogen | January 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM

I think you have a problem with criticism that makes sense you one thinks that they and their leaders are perfect since they follow dass torah

Anyone with any moral compass, who watches this video and can find "context" is a very dangerous person.
It's of not that the young men did a smart move by not resisting, with such a mob, they could have easily been lynched.

Anyone remember when two israeli soldiers lost their way in Ramallah?
The were beaten to death had their eyes gouged out and were disemboweled
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching

And of course there was "context"!!!

ah-pee-chorus Thank God I "can't see"-"they deserve to have scorn heaped upon them at all times". I couldn't imagine living a life believing that every individual in a group "deserve to have scorn heaped upon them at all times".

Haredi Jews gang up on little girls in Beth Shemesh (Zionist Orthodox). Arabs gang up on Hardi Jews.

Justice is done!

Shmarya can always add "context" to the Holocaust and what "preceded" it.
He and Lord Haw-Haw, Tokyo Rose and Norman Finkelstein.
What a douche-bag.
Rot in hell

Posted by: James | January 13, 2013 at 11:52 AM

That you aren't a smart person or an intellectually honest is evident.

But do try to process.

You seem to think that all bad behavior by Jews must be ignored as if it never existed, and all bad behavior toward Jews by non-Jews must be demonic antisemitism that has no rational cause.

But this is false.

Saying that the actions of haredim and police Wednesday night may have prompted this Arab reaction on Shabbos is not wrong. It is not Nazi-like.

Perhaps the problem is that you confuse the things that spark and act with the act itself.

You also have a very black and white view of things. Your side must be 100% good because if it isn't, it's 100% bad.

So you can't accept the idea that police and haredim were wrong Wednesday night, because you think that makes Arabs right on Shabbos.

That is a logical fallacy. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

Both were wrong, the haredim and the police Wednesday night and the Arabs on Shabbos.

Wednesday night's behavior probably contributed to what happened on Shabbos.

But that does not excuse the Arabs who acted that way.

I realize all of this is very difficult for you to understand.

Be that as it certainly is, it's still the truth, whether you ever grow enough to understand it or not.

While this is a terrible video and I feel bad for the two people being attacked, I can't help but think what the little girls in the beit shemesh school felt everyday when they were called whores and yelled at on their way to school by these same type of people who are now the victims. This is not a 'Nazi Germany' analogy. These are two groups of people, who because of their ridiculous religious beliefs, can't get along with others, including even people within their own general belief system.

I couldn't imagine living a life believing that every individual in a group "deserve to have scorn heaped upon them at all times".

Posted by: Klonimous |


really? so there are members of al-qaeda, for example , for whom you dont have that belief?

shmarya,
please follow up all chareidi bad behavior articles with their "context"
thank you.
p.s. I dont think the arabs hate observant jews as much as you. they don't really believe that they can get away with "we lynched these 2 kids because other jews hurt our friends" even arabs aren't that racist to think they can lump a full group of hundreds of thousands of people together as a defense to assault.

this shows, that the zionist government and the zionist rabbinical leaders bred fantasies since 1948. they have no controll at all about what is happening in eretz israel. of course it can happen in any country, that one group of youth attacks with snowballs other youths, that are kind of nerds in their eyes. but here it's clearly motivated against jews, bc. the 2 haredim are recognizable as jews and are somehow handicapped on shabat to act freely. even if it's a revenge to what happened days before it should be seen as a sign, that sth is clearly wrong in this country. there is clearly a comparison to the 30th in Germany, the only difference is, that the arabs (1,5 Million with citizenship in Israel)still don't have the political power to kill Jews. If you are familiar with the uprising of the Nazis in Germany, it was a much smaller group of selected individuals around the Führer, machshemo,that found a way to political power in a tricky way. In Israel you need only a very charismatic arabic leader, that can motivate and logistically organize a real uprising of residents and Gaza/Westbank Arabs as one. like first attack from outside and then the inside will riot and use weapons..... then not only two Haredim will be harmed, but all jews, even leftists and cynics, etc.. that hate Haredim. In History it always started with the visible Jew and than goning to all jews. incidents like this are bringing joy and strength to the arab soul, they will not feel bad for what they do, but instead to start to see that their chance is coming and this is the most dangerous opponent, bc it's an activated and alert opponent and not anymore an supressed one. .. just some thoughts ..

ah-pee-chorus "really? so there are members of al-qaeda, for example , for whom you dont have that belief?"

I am referring to a social group not an organization. However, anyone with a little wisdom would realize that even in the extreme example of the Al-Qaeda organization there is a time not to scorn. For example, if I knew that the American Government was viciously torturing AL-Qaeda members in Gitmo, my response wouldn't be "who cares, they deserve scorn".
As an aside, the demonization in your mind of Charedim to the extent that you compare them to Al-Qaeda, frightens me. The notion that one's bitterness can cloud someone's reasoning to such an extent causes me angst.

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