BREAKING! Israel's High Court Cuts Off 54,000 Haredi Yeshiva Students Stipends And Welfare Benefits Over Draft Dodging
Israel's High Court Cuts Off Haredi Yeshiva Students Stipends And Welfare Benefits Over Draft Dodging
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com
Israel’s High Court of Justice issued a conditional injunction today stopping the Government of Israel from paying benefit packages to the approximately 54,000 haredi yeshiva students whose draft exemptions were ruled illegal by the High Court eleven months ago, Israel HaYom reported.
But rather than strike down that law, known as the Tal Law, immediately, the court allowed it to expire August 1 to give the government time to draft a law to replace it.
The government failed – many think intentionally – at this task and attempted to leave the illegal status quo in place.
The court’s injunction mandates that the government explain why the benefits were not suspended after the Tal Law expired almost six months ago.
The government will also have to explain why the government changed the criteria for receiving these benefits packages so that yeshiva students who received them in the past as well as new yeshiva students could get them.
The injunction was issued in response to a petition submitted to the court by the religious freedom and democracy organization Hiddush, the Israeli Forum for Citizen Equal Rights and Obligations, Israel Hofshit (Free Israel), and former MK Ronnie Barizon.
That petition argued that because haredi yeshiva students are no longer exempt from military service, benefit packages they receive from the government after evading mandatory military service should not be legal.
The average benefits package for a 28-year-old married yeshiva student is $14,400 annually according to a report by Hiddush, which calculated the various benefits – including some that were hidden from public view.
"The question is not whether the yeshiva students can study Torah or not – it is whether they should be given support to do so. If the military deferment is done according to the law then there is nothing to prevent giving benefits packages. But if the deferment is not kosher then no benefit package should be given,” Supreme Court Justice Miriam Maor noted.
Hiddush asked the High Court to "set an immediate date to hold discussions because the state transfers 30 million shekels (about $8 million) each month to yeshivas against the law, and there is no way that these gigantic sums will ever be returned."
Get 54,000 quaters (or Dollars) ready for the influx of these 54,000 students coming to the USA to collect for "hachnasass Kallah" or "ah D'var Mitzvah".
Posted by: $$$$ | January 15, 2013 at 11:40 AM
> "The question is not whether the yeshiva students can study Torah or not
This is the most important line because the first thing the Chareidi PR people will do is scream that Israel is once again committing genocide against them and trying to destroy the Torah when all it's saying is: Sure buddy, but we're not paying for it.
Posted by: Garnel Ironheart | January 15, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Best news I heard all day.
Posted by: Ari | January 15, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Haredim will fuckin harass you over
loshon hara
yamica sizes
wearing a white shirt
shomer negiah
kasharut
all of which they are hypocrites granted yamica size is not of moral consequences even though it is annoying as fuck
it's about time haredim get harassed on dina d'malchut dina
Posted by: gopjew | January 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM
Wait long enough and almost anything can happen.
Figure 54,000 of them at $14,000 per annum is $756 million pa. How many employed Israelis are there? Wikipiedia says 2.7 million. This support stipend is costing each of those people $280 in taxes. Do a little math and that's one Yeshiva student being supported by every 50 workers. The numbers are probably worse than that if you figure in the cost of other services they receive in kind and that their families receive.
Maybe the answer is to cut the stipend in half for six months while they are forced to look for work and then cut it off totally shortly after. Is a family of six or eight or whatever actually able to survive in one of the Haredi areas on that little? I assume there must be other sources of support. How much do these people pay to the Kollel out of their $14K?
Posted by: S M L | January 15, 2013 at 12:26 PM
54,000 x $14,400 / 12 = $64,800,000 per month.
Could buy a few tanks for that
Posted by: Pigs may fly | January 15, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Finally elation,now lets see if they will adhere to the ruling.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 15, 2013 at 12:48 PM
The romans had machines, horses, arrows, swords and other equipment to kill. Where are they now? Without talmid chochom there is no future. With more and more we have more and more future! Money comes and goes, where is all your money you have been making all these years? All gone! Eaten with lust for sweet food, gadgets, clothes, nonsense!
Posted by: YTHM | January 15, 2013 at 12:53 PM
and by your own calculations you can see what a big lie these numbers are. you also have to include tens of thousands of seculars! these numbers are complete lies.
Posted by: YTHM | January 15, 2013 at 12:56 PM
YTHM, good for you! Money is just crass materialism. The Haredim should not be corrupted with sweet food, gadgets, and Gucci shoes!
You are right! Israel should end all financial subsidies immediately!
Posted by: Eli, what me messiah? | January 15, 2013 at 01:17 PM
YTHM--With youre kind of fanaticism you should be learning toireh right now and not be on the internet you fool.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 15, 2013 at 01:17 PM
Does this mean that the funding for the Arabs (welfare and otherwise) has also been cut off? They are also technically evading the draft.
Posted by: Lubavitchers Are Christians | January 15, 2013 at 01:27 PM
YTHM - The Romans have not disappeared.
Their culture progressed until it is today unrecognizable. Just as a baby is unrecognizable when he matures.
Hareidism is a retarded adult in nappies.
Posted by: Barry | January 15, 2013 at 01:36 PM
Hareidism is a retarded adult in nappies.
Hahahahaha thats a good one,and youre right on.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | January 15, 2013 at 02:29 PM
EXCELLENT NEWS!!!!!!!
YTHM -
if torah learning is what provides for israel and jews entire future, why couldnt it stop this ruling? i guess it really does nothing.
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | January 15, 2013 at 02:29 PM
Wonderful news:
The power of the rabbis must be broken and this is the first step in doing so. Requiring the students to perform their national service will weaken the hold of the rabbonim, as many will wake up to the world at large and begin demanding answers to questions that the rabbonim would prefer not to answer. Is it any wonder that the gedolim are apoplectic about this? All of their perceived power is beginning to run through their clenched fists like water. With any luck, the numbers of ultra-orthodox will dwindle to the fringe that they should have been without the Tal Law.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | January 15, 2013 at 03:33 PM
Hareidism is a retarded adult in nappies.
Hahahahaha thats a good one,and youre right on.
I would like to add a few more HAHAHAshere. Best laugh I had today.
Posted by: smile! | January 15, 2013 at 04:07 PM
E X C E L L E N T !
Next thing to do is make sure the Charedi kids are educated and able to become useful productive citizens.
Posted by: David | January 15, 2013 at 04:13 PM
Since Netanyahu is PM, I'll believe it when I see it, but if these parasites actually have had their succor revoked, that's WONDERFUL news.
Posted by: Fleishike Kishke | January 15, 2013 at 04:48 PM
I'm liking this Hiddush organization. They seem to be moving and shaking things.
Do you think they have an English website or take donations?
Posted by: Abracadabra | January 15, 2013 at 04:57 PM
Barry - Excellent answer! (Funny too!!)
Posted by: Abracadabra | January 15, 2013 at 04:58 PM
I would love to see our Groucho in the pic cleaned up, uniformed and ready for duty. A before/after would be fun.
Hopefully this move will help cut the birth rate.
Posted by: Apostate | January 15, 2013 at 05:06 PM
Barry, hilarious! and pithy enough for a bumper-sticker or t-shirt.
Posted by: Eli, what me messiah? | January 15, 2013 at 05:46 PM
YTHM, you're on to something. Israel should follow a Tibetan model.
Posted by: zionist goy | January 15, 2013 at 07:33 PM
YTHM - The Romans have not disappeared.
Their culture progressed until it is today unrecognizable. Just as a baby is unrecognizable when he matures.
There are no romans anymore, whatever is left of it has been changing and morphing over the centuries over Europe. There is no resting place for "it", it's a messy chemical mixture that's unstable and erupts constant wars.
Hareidism is a retarded adult in nappies.
Posted by: Barry | January 15, 2013 at 01:36 PM
Torah Judaism is a field of large olive trees.
Posted by: YTHM | January 15, 2013 at 08:46 PM
Posted by: $$$$ | January 15, 2013 at 11:40 AM
The Haredi would have better luck knocking at Pastor John Hagee's door than mine.
If the court's decision sticks, it will be very good news for Israel's long term future and very survival.
Posted by: Rocky | January 15, 2013 at 09:02 PM
Really, I don't see the problem. Do your three years of military service, finish up, get a job, go to Daf Yomi in the morning, and learn full-time when you retire. Where is it written that the world depends on the Torah study of the young?
Posted by: AztecQueen2000 | January 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM
I've lived in Rome. There are Romans everywhere, you fool. The Empire may have gone, but the citizens are still there. Next you will be telling me the British no longer exist.
Posted by: Atheier | January 16, 2013 at 05:59 PM