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January 03, 2013

IDF Agrees To Allow Haredim To Have Induction Physicals Done By Their Private Doctors To Avoid ‘Immodesty’ Of Induction Centers; IDF Reportedly Begins To Arrest Draft Dodgers

Haredi man walking past soldiers at KotelAfter intensive intervention by Israel’s haredi Deputy Health Minister Yaakov Litzman and haredi MK Moshe Gafne, the IDF’s Chief of Personnel Major-General Orna Barvibai has agreed to allow haredi inductees to have their induction medical exam conducted by their family physician at the physician’s private office rather than by army physicians at induction centers to avoid "modesty issues."

Haredi man walking past soldiers at Kotel

IDF Agrees To Allow Haredim To Have Induction Physicals Done By Their Private Doctors To Avoid ‘Immodesty’ Of Induction Centers; IDF Reportedly Begins To Arrest Draft Dodgers
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

After intensive intervention by Israel’s haredi Deputy Health Minister Yaakov Litzman and haredi MK Moshe Gafne, the IDF’s Chief of Personnel Major-General Orna Barvibai has agreed to allow haredi inductees to have their induction medical exam conducted by their family physician at the physician’s private office rather than by army physicians at induction centers, Yeshiva World reported.

An inductee can, if he chooses, opt to have the medical exam done by an IDF physician in an induction center. However, according to the agreement, it must be done by a male physician only.

Haredi rabbis were upset that a small minority of the physicians who examine inductees are allegedly women, and even though the IDF denied that any haredi inductees were forced to undergo an exam conducted by one of them, rumors spread throughout the haredi community that yeshiva students had, in fact, been probed by female physicians.

The rabbis were also angered because the medical exams include physical testicular palpatation to check for hernias and testicular cancer. The rabbis apparently consider this to be immodest, even if the doctor is a male.

Now that the IDF has removed the latest reason for haredi draftees to refuse to come into the induction offices and get their initial medical exams and workups, the Vizhnitzer Rebbe is now allowing yeshiva students to report for the initial process. Previously, he had banned yeshiva students from reporting and had dared the IDF, military police and Israeli police and security officials to arrest him.

Military Police are reportedly in the process of tracking down inductees who fail to report to an induction center for pre-military processing as ordered, Yeshiva World reports, and an growing number of draft dodgers have been arrested and incarcerated.

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So I assume the Charedim's doctors will not examine their testicles and scrotal area either to check for cancer, hernia or other problems?

And if they can't be examined by female medical staff under any circumstances or only certain parts of their bodies by male doctors, how are they to be treated for combat injuries (assuming they would go into combat which is unlikely)?

It's strange they don't have similar concerns about bathing with their buddies every morning in the mikvah. Or concerns about pedastry.

What this does is opens a loophole for lots of them to get medical deferments.

..by the boatload.

The Palestinians must laughing at the breakdown in Israeli society. The Haredi are the Palestinians' secret weapon. Who knew it would all end like this?

The medical deferments for the Haredi will be more corrupt than the deferments and exemptions in the US during the Viet Nam war.

I would assume the army is insisting on the need to have one of their own docs confirm any diagnosis that would give a deferment. if not , this is ridiculous.

My first post was a little naive. Of course the Charedim's doctors will declare them unfit...

There are few Charedei doctors. LOL. Wise up about life.

This is a good move. They ate showing the charedeim they are ready to work with them and they are showing if you don't work with us to jail you go..

Btw folks to medical deferment you have to have your case reviewed by a army medical committe unless the basis for the deferment is obvious. Blind,CP etc.

Something tells me that this ain't gonna fly...

"[P]hysical testicular palpitation" sounds frightful...

I believe what was meant was "testicular palpation" (palpation means examination by touch, while palpitation means pulsating or fluttering, usually referring to the heart).

Posted by: Avi | January 04, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Haha, that would certainly give me palpitations...

Of course IDF doctors shouldn't be allowed to touch the genitals of young haredim.

If they did, then Haredi youth might find out that using lips and tongue are not part of a proper exam as they have been told by their rabbis.

This is counter productive. The purpose of military training is deconstruct a normal human and turn him into a killing machine. That is not accomplished by coddling. Much of basic training is brutal by design. The purpose is to create a being that will do what must be done despite the fact that it is repulsive. If the the haredi are coddled they will be lousy soldiers. It is an ugly business after all.

Those hunched-over, pale yeshiva weaklings need to man up. Treat them the same as everybody else, no special accommodations for fanatics.

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