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December 06, 2012

Weberman Trial Update

Nechemya Weberman court 11-28-2012 closeupThe closing arguments were completed today in the trial of accused child sexual abuser Rabbi Nechemya Weberman and the jury (12 jurors and 5 alternates) was sent home. Tomorrow morning the jury will be charged by the judge – a process that instructs them on the laws involved with sitting on a jury and on the specific legal questions they are being asked to judge.

Nechemya Weberman court 11-28-2012 closeup
Rabbi Nechemya Weberman

The closing arguments were completed today in the trial of accused child sexual abuser Rabbi Nechemya Weberman and the jury (12 jurors and 5 alternates) was sent home. Tomorrow morning the jury will be charged by the judge – a process that instructs them on the laws involved with sitting on a jury and on the specific legal questions they are being asked to judge.

This means the jury should begin deliberations late in the morning or early in the afternoon.

A verdict can come in at any time after deliberations begin.

Based on what commonly happens in similar criminal cases, it is likely no verdict will be reached until next week – although it is certainly possible that a verdict will be reached before Shabbat.

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Who comprises the jury? Are there any yamulke-wearing Jews on this jury? Any women? How likely is Weberman to appeal any guilty sentence handed down by this court?

I can only pray and hope that the truth comes out

R. Wisler - Are you the same R' Wisler from Gateshead?

Mike Kats-If you dont want to see the truth it will never come out for you.

The biggest problem is the disgrace this bought upon a community. Did anybody mention the many organizations helping out in Williamsburg? Rccs for cancer patients, bonie olam and a time for infertility costs. Bikur cholem for people in hospitals. The list is endless. They are nonprofit so all the people working there are volunteers. One story, we don't know for sure if its even true. There is a marked and noted lack of hard evidence in the victim's allegation and the entire community is labeled as rapists? As extremists? Lady, you don't like our rules ? Leave!! Nobody is forcing anybody to send their kids to satmar. Open your eyes.

Truth--In youre words there is alot sheker,you write nobody forces anyone,well force and intimidation is their weapon of choice and you are one gigantic fool .a shoite of gargantuan proportion.

Posted by: Truth | December 06, 2012 at 05:20 PM

Everyone who wants to leave Satmar knows that their families will suffer as a result. They'll lose opportunities for shidduch, schools and jobs. Additionally the Satmar educational system deliberately leaves their children lacking in the general studies needed to succeed in the outside world. The diploma isn't even worth a G.E.D. in the job market. So please don't lie by saying it's easy to leave.

> Lady, you don't like our rules ? Leave!!

She was fucking 12 years old, you schmuck.

jancsibacsi,could you please tell the story of that murderer called Reiniz in the 30s in Szatmàr(Satmar)?How many people did he kill and what happended to him after he got caught?Many thanks.

You don't like our rules that all kids have to be raped by far old pigs ? Leave! Do you even listen to yourself??

far = fat

jancsibacsi,could you please tell the story of that murderer called Reiniz in the 30s in Szatmàr(Satmar)?How many people did he kill and what happended to him after he got caught?Many thanks.

Posted by: Abu Jihad Schneerson | December 06, 2012 at 06:38 PM

The axe murderer?

He used to lure young men just after they got married, I think, into the woods to view plots of timber he supposedly wanted to buy with them (or something close to this).

And then, as the young men would look at the trees, he chopped them to death with his axe.

The biggest problem is the disgrace this bought upon a community.

The biggest problem is that you and your community THINK that the disgrace is the biggest problem.

Not the fact that there are no protections in place to prevent child rapes like this from ever happening again. Not the fact that the victims get ostracized and the child rapists get supported time and time again in the community. Not the fact that the Vaad HaTznius (Modesty Squad of Thugs) beat up and extort anyone who doesn't comply with the rules. Not any of the countless problems that this case has revealed. No, all you care about is the percieved "disgrace" this brought upon the community.

What you and your community do not realize is that it is FAR MORE DISGRACEFUL that you refuse to deal with these extensive problems, and that you deny the problems even exist and then go on to hurt the victims. The victims who in these cases are CHILDREN who were sexually assualted by those in power (teachers, rabbis, counselors, respected adults). You do not realize that the disgrace is not in the fact that the rape itself happens, the disgrace is in how you and your leaders handle it. And in THAT you and your community appear to be more disgraceful than you can even imagine.

Many thanks,Shmarya!Is there a link of this story somewhere?I didn't find much on Google and I'd like to read the full story and know what happened to this murderer.

I don't recall the details, etc. Maybe Janci will.

Abu Jihad Schneerson--There is a hassidishe neighbor of mine my age middle age he told me he killed about 4 or 5 people , the way shmarya wrote here is the way it happened he was in jail for a while supposedly he got ill they had an operation and while in the operating room he died but the rumor is he was killed because they didnt want a trial it was too embarrasing i heard he has relatives here in brooklyn some changed their name from reinitz to another name because of embarrasment and stigma that the name brought.

Thanks to you too,jancsi!

Abracadabra-The biggest problem is that they cannot bring themselfs to admit that their way of life the way they practice it is obsolete,here in a big city maybee in the forests it would be ok where no one can see you with youre phallic symbol payes and dress,they are making a mockery of themself and of normal judaism but they are tottaly blind to what they are doing or maybee just braqin washed by their elders,they think that they are the perfect beings with their heilige rebbe that is the reason they cannot face reality,reality is that they live a life of fantasy and cannot deal with reality.

jancsibacsi: Hitler In Mien Kamfp And David Duke don't hate Jews because of Chasidim, the majority of his complains are about Jews like you.

jancsibacsi: We are mostly a mockery to secular Jews, many non-Jews I work with (especially the women) respect us

The secular Jews are mostly responsible for Antisemitism, People like Bernie Madof, Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brother’s etc. And BTW Levy Aaron was not a Chasid and I think not frum at all.

Mike Kats --You are truly a mindless moron,i didnt say that hassidim are the cause of anti semitism you are putting words in my mouth but youre hassidism sure doesnt help with people like you who pretends he is god and knows that non frum jews like madoff who actually took or duped jew not nonjews into giving him their money di bist a groisen shoite ,and i repeat youre hassidim with their dressing and payes hanging down are making a mockery of themselfs in the eyes of nonjew you guys are a joke especially with this weberman and molestation cases that are pending.

The secular Jews are mostly responsible for Antisemitism, People like Bernie Madof, Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brother’s etc.

Well, for one thing there are more moderate/secular Jews than there are Haredim and they're more highly placed and more conspicuous for better or worse. Also it's because their actions affect people and institutions that dwell in the real world where the effects can be seen and publicized and thus elicit reaction whether positive or otherwise.

Haredi sleaze is hidden in their shtetls; the ordinary folk who are victims are no more likely to do anything about it than were ordinary Sicilians in Mafia-ruled towns some years back. The pols the Mafia/Satmar/Lubavitch own are beholden to them and not going to blow the whistle.

I suspect and very much hope that that may not be the case for much longer. Perhaps the Weberman case will blow the lid off.

Posted by: Mike Kats | December 06, 2012 at 07:55 PM

You're absolutely wrong. Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that it was his first chance encounter with a Hasidic Jew that triggered his anti-Semitism

This story what this rienitz einikal fabricated to get a good asken in jail to be able to go to step 2 and enter a lawsuit against uta and to grab a few million dollars, Has no chance to be true. Everybody that was in court the entire week saw that this girl doesnt know whats flying, She changed storys - Lied - Didn't remember 95% - 3 years she was molested while her sister was next door in same house and mr. webermans wife and kids where there and she didn't say 1 word. this story was made to sue UTA and with a jury there is no chance a frum jew to win so weberman is in trouble regardless, My blessing to the this new money hungry couple "you won't get rich from jewish blood" every dog has his day yours will also come fast with hashems help !

"you won't get rich from jewish blood"

Weberman seems to have done okay for himself.

I"m not a satmar and my kids don't learn in satmar UTA - Hoever we are jewish people, We cannot take a father of 10 kids with a clean track record and destroy his life based on words from a girl what was sent to mr. weberman because she had so many issues, Another strong fact 2 1/2 years she didnt tell her closest person her boyfriend (lol.. boy friend by the 13 in williamsburg and we have to trust her that she says truth..) she didnt tell him a word. All her boy friend says that everyday she told him a new story that somebody tried to rape her she is in dreamland....

boory the story fabricator=

the DA has said he spoke to 6 other girls who were molested by him but cant come forward out of fear. are they all crazy and lying too? is the DA? or is the only animal here weberman?

Show me the source of the DA claiming of 6 more molestation's and i will change my mind

On which page does he say that?

This maniac’s problem was of Liberal Jewish newspapers; Jewish communist; xxx clubs; and Jewish finance – all were secular Jews

I will say it again; in general, the non-Jews have much more respect for us then our("newly")secular Jewish brethren, that’s why I love them more.

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Posted by: Mike Kats | December 06, 2012 at 07:55 PM

You're absolutely wrong. Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that it was his first chance encounter with a Hasidic Jew that triggered his anti-Semitism

Posted by: SkepticalYid | December 06, 2012 at 08:52 PM
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I tried to read Mein Kamph all the way thru
I gave up

BUT what was especially abhorrent to hitler was Jews wearing [his words] kaftans [Hasidim dress]

boory the story fabricator,you need urgent hospitalization!You are a danger for yourself and for people around you.

I find it truly incredible how in a pluralistic society such as the USA, people can be held hostage by these freaks of nature. I dont know what kind of religion these people practice but it is far removed from the Jewish religion I was raised with.

To allow teachers, schools, etc to dictate to a parent the terms and condition of their childs education is mind numbing.

I was raised in a frum home by parents who didnt take any shit from anyone including the so called Rabbis Teachers. They knew what they wanted their children to achieve and do, and there was no way anyone was going to interfere in their objective.

And so it should be with any parent, anywhere.

Take command of your childrens education and future.

DO not allow the freaks to dictate to you how, when, where and what you children should be educated.

Never ever trust the so called teachers, Rabbis etc.

Only you as a parent knows and cares about the wellbeing of your child.

Irrespective what kind of lifestyle your child chooses in life, they will always be your child.

Love him/her unconditionally.

Whenever any sect religion cult etc tries to put a wedge within your family, its time to pack up and walk away.

You dont want your kids future to be dependent on these freaks of nature.

Truth writes The biggest problem is the disgrace this bought upon a community. Did anybody mention the many organizations helping out in Williamsburg? Rccs for cancer patients, bonie olam and a time for infertility costs. Bikur cholem for people in hospitals. The list is endless

No. The biggest problem is that he raped a little girl over several years, and The Community closed ranks, protected him, tried to ruin her and her family and did everything it could to prevent Justice from being done.

Fuck the charities, the volunteers, the cancer patients, the fertility treatments for a bunch of yids who are as inbred as a clan of West Virginia hillbillies. They are completely irrelevant.

Hitler wrote : "I suddenly ran into an apparition with long side curls and a caftan" he references the secular Jews he knew as a child and said " In Linz the certainly did not look like that."

In typical revisionist fashion , Hasidic trolls like Mike Kats would have one believe the exact opposite.

Alan Weberman, this is a superb article you have written.

Is it possible to read the court transcripts anywhere?

Show me the source of the DA claiming of 6 more molestation's and i will change my mind

Posted by: Mike Kats | December 06, 2012 at 11:30 PM


Here is the source:
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-10-29/news/34801516_1_abuse-cases-weberman-case-nechemya-weberman/2

Ready to change your mind?

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