Kedassia Retracts Halpern Shul Explusion
"The letter signed by Chaim Schneck was released as a result of a misunderstanding and the Beish Hamedrash Divrei Chaim remains affiliated to the Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations. Greetings of Peace. Moshe Chaim Efraim Padwa."
ב”ה י”ב טבת תשע”ג
המכתב החתום ע”י ר”ח שנעק יצא מחמת אי הבנה וביהמ”ד דברי חיים עוד מצורף להתאחדות קהילות החרדים
וע”ז דו”ש משה חיים אפרים פדווא
12 Teves 5773
The letter signed by Chaim Schneck was released as a result of a misunderstanding and the Beish Hamedrash Divrei Chaim remains affiliated to the Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations.
Greetings of Peace
Moshe Chaim Efraim Padwa
[Via: IfYouTickleUs. Hat Tip: The Lion.]
according to commenters on IYTU there was nearly a physical confrontation as the signer was forced to sign and cops were called.
HOORAY FOR CHAREDIM!!
so which ruling was the "daas toyreh" one? the initial one or the retraction. i need to know because i'm a big believer that torah wisdom brings rabbis superpowers to speak on any issue, no matter how clueless they appaear to be on said issue.
then again maybe its all innocent. they initially expelled the shul because they were told the holy rabbi drank milk touched by non-jews. but when they found out it was far less serious and only related to accusations of using his rabbinic position to obtain sexual gratification from women who were not his wife, they immediately retracted and let out a huge sigh of relief.
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | December 24, 2012 at 08:49 PM
ah-pee-chorus - brilliant comment! You should change your name to something more appropriate, such as pee-ha'ason. No insult to asses intended.
Posted by: Moshe | December 24, 2012 at 08:53 PM
Moshe -
which part was your favorite?
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | December 24, 2012 at 08:58 PM
As i wrote many times here the whole toireh by theese heiliger then-thou rebbeleh is a mind game thats all it is, anything goes as long as they are the ones who dont get hurt they couldnt care about anyones feelings besides their own,children who never grew up thats what they are 2 year old.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | December 24, 2012 at 09:14 PM
VOT A VEY TO SPEND NITEL.
TO THE TUNE OF RUDOLPH THE RED NOSED REINDEER, ALTOGETHER NOW,
CHAIM THE RED FACED REBBE
HAD A LITTLE TINY FAULT
MANY MANY MARRIED WOMEN
AS A COUNSELLOR HE OFTEN SOUGHT
WHEN HE TRIED HIS BEST TO SEDUCE THEM
HE ALWAYS USED TO FALL DOWN FLAT
BUT NOT BECAUSE HE WAS SO CLUELESS
IT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS SO FAT!
NOW HIS BROTHER MOISHE HALPERN
WANTS TO TRY TO SAVE HIS HIDE
BUT LIKE EVERY CASE OF AN ABUSER
THE MAN COULD NOT KEEP HIS PHALLUS INSIDE!
Posted by: AL JOLSON | December 24, 2012 at 09:32 PM
You are all coming down too hard on our Rebeim and it's shameful. Especially given the tome of year. I mean, if you think about it, even the holy jewish baby jesus suckled the breasts of a virgin.
Posted by: Jewseppy | December 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM
on-a·gain, off-a·gain.Erratic, flickering, fluctuating tango dance ? A chazir, a pig why is he being protected? lets call this fiasco the" Bay of Pigs". I predict this fiasco is going to pick up more steam and Pigs might fly here, there are for sure more pigs in this story, we have a leadeship of Lowlifes "Leaders" who are punks real anarcho-punks, these so called leasders promote anarchism in our community. We have to fight back and Kick-Ass, these Big Ass Mother Fckers cant keep their bulging dicks inside their zippers and we protect them? These bastards have no problem creating a huge chillul hashem, why should we look away and protect them? because his name is HALPERN? Who gives a flyin' fck for this cunt lickin Unshowered, Stinky, Schweaty smelly horny bastard ? kick his ass/butt out now, make him homelss , no shuls, no nothing for the next few years, punish him
Posted by: Moshe aron Kestenbaum, Williamsburg | December 25, 2012 at 07:37 AM
So as far as I understand it, the UOHC position can be understood from the following:-
1) 20 Kislev 5773 - UOHC issues letter stating that an independent Beis Din is to be appointed to throughly examine allegations and that Rabbi Padwa (the head of UOHC) expresses the wish that no further action or declaration be made until that Beis Din issue their psak
2) 22 Kislev 5773 - UOHC issue a letter stating that in the interest of the declaration by local rabbonim condemning Chaim Halpern and to maintain peace, Rabbi Padwa is abandoning his plan to set up an international Beis Din. This letter is a forgery - Sharmya is condemned for falling for this obvious forgery as only a hater would assume that the Hareidi Rabbinate are that confused and Rabbi Padwa’s leadership of the UOHC is so weak that he would change his mind and retract a letter within 2 days of having it issued.
3) 11 Teves 5773 - UOHC issues letter expelling Chaim Halpern’s synagogue notwithstanding that letter dated 20 Kislev stating that no action be taken until the international Beis Din issues its psak.
4) 12 Teves 5773 - One day after issuing the expulsion letter, Rabbi Padwa in this own hand, issues a letter retracting the expulsion letter thereby proving to the world that that the Hareidi Rabbinate are that confused and Rabbi Padwa’s leadership of the UOHC is so weak that he would change his mind and retract a letter within 1 day of having it issued.
Posted by: Barry | December 25, 2012 at 09:56 AM
What a crap.
London Beth din allows CRIST.. MASS PARTIES SPECIAL ??? LUNCH DINNER under their suppervissiion!!!
KEDASSIA does not seem to have CHRIST..MASS balls to take appropriate action??
Goldsgreen / STamfordhilll WAKE UP!!!
Yes abuse no abuse yo yo gaim.
Money money Money what a chiluf HaShem.
My aunt is in a old age home in GG where today SPECIAL C H R .... Lunch dinner was served!!!!
YOSHKESH BALLS AS DESERT???
What a chillul HaShem in london.
Business ass usually.. $$$$$$$$$££££££££££££
Posted by: Shmendrick | December 25, 2012 at 05:57 PM
Rav Padwa should resign
he is old and becoming senile
better to leava while at the top not after the fall has began
Posted by: anon | December 26, 2012 at 12:58 AM
Real rabbis do not see women alone or in the house while their wives are knocked out by drugs
Real frum people let women meet women counsillors and men men counsillors
The devil possessed rabbi used kedusha pretenses for personal gains against his kedusha preachings
this is punishable very severely indeed
Posted by: anon | December 26, 2012 at 01:25 AM