Should This Rabbi – Finally – Be Fired?
A Teaneck rabbi, long known for extreme right wing outbursts, echoes the worst slurs about Americans who voted for Barack Obama, including deriding them as freeloaders who voted for Obama only because he gives them free food. He rants against the extended unemployment benefits Obama pushed for that kept so many Americans' heads (slightly) above water when the George Bush economy tanked. He says that modern immigrants to America from Africa and other Third World locales don't share the American values late 19th and early 20th century immigrants had. He shows no sympathy for or empathy with the poor or unemployed and, in fact, demonizes them. Should this man be allowed to be a rabbi?
The man is Steven Pruzansky. He's the rabbi of Bnai Yeshurun in Teaneck. He's a senior member of the Rabbinical Council of America.
Pruzansky has a long history of insensitive extremist rants on Israeli politics and the American-Israeal relationship.
But now Pruzansky attacks all Americans who voted for Obama. He denigrates them as freeloaders who are "dumb," "ignorant," "uninformed," and "unintelligent."
He shows no sympathy for or empathy with the poor or unemployed – a surprising number of whom are Jewish; instead, he demonizes them.
He lies about what these "47%" of Americans do and what they pay in taxes. (They pay a much higher percentage overall than the rich do – a fact Pruzansky avoids mentioning.) His racism clear but thinly veiled.
Pruzansky is a disgusting person, so disgusting that I think he should be fired immediately – but not because he supported Romney or hates Obama.
Pruzansky should be fired because he lies, because he uses the most base smear tactics against his opponents, and because he denigrates the poor.
Jews are commanded to treat the poor with respect and to help them. We are forbidden to persecute them, make fun of them, starve them, or insult them.
Pruzansky can't be a rabbi if he fails at this most basic Jewish responsibility.
Bnai Yeshurun should fire Pruzansky immediately and the RCA should expel him – they should, but chances are, they won't.
Modern Orthodoxy, now morphed into Centrist Orthodoxy and headed by another rabbi prone to unusual childish outbursts, is unlikely to do anything.
Here is Pruzansky's horrible rant in full:
THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE
The most charitable way of explaining the election results of 2012 is that Americans voted for the status quo – for the incumbent President and for a divided Congress. They must enjoy gridlock, partisanship, incompetence, economic stagnation and avoidance of responsibility. And fewer people voted. As I write, with almost all the votes counted, President Obama has won fewer votes than John McCain won in 2008, and more than ten million off his own 2008 total.
But as we awake from the nightmare, it is important to eschew the facile explanations for the Romney defeat that will prevail among the chattering classes. Romney did not lose because of the effects of Hurricane Sandy that devastated this area, nor did he lose because he ran a poor campaign, nor did he lose because the Republicans could have chosen better candidates, nor did he lose because Obama benefited from a slight uptick in the economy due to the business cycle.
Romney lost because he didn’t get enough votes to win.
That might seem obvious, but not for the obvious reasons. Romney lost because the conservative virtues – the traditional American virtues – of liberty, hard work, free enterprise, private initiative and aspirations to moral greatness – no longer inspire or animate a majority of the electorate. The notion of the “Reagan Democrat” is one cliché that should be permanently retired.
Ronald Reagan himself could not win an election in today’s America.
The simplest reason why Romney lost was because it is impossible to compete against free stuff. Every businessman knows this; that is why the “loss leader” or the giveaway is such a powerful marketing tool. Obama’s America is one in which free stuff is given away: the adults among the 47,000,000 on food stamps clearly recognized for whom they should vote, and so they did, by the tens of millions; those who – courtesy of Obama – receive two full years of unemployment benefits (which, of course, both disincentivizes looking for work and also motivates people to work off the books while collecting their windfall) surely know for whom to vote; so too those who anticipate “free” health care, who expect the government to pay their mortgages, who look for the government to give them jobs. The lure of free stuff is irresistible.
Imagine two restaurants side by side. One sells its customers fine cuisine at a reasonable price, and the other offers a free buffet, all-you-can-eat as long as supplies last. Few – including me – could resist the attraction of the free food. Now imagine that the second restaurant stays in business because the first restaurant is forced to provide it with the food for the free buffet, and we have the current economy, until, at least, the first restaurant decides to go out of business. (Then, the government takes over the provision of free food to its patrons.)
The defining moment of the whole campaign was the revelation (by the amoral Obama team) of the secretly-recorded video in which Romney acknowledged the difficulty of winning an election in which “47% of the people” start off against him because they pay no taxes and just receive money – “free stuff” – from the government. Almost half of the population has no skin in the game – they don’t care about high taxes, promoting business, or creating jobs, nor do they care that the money for their free stuff is being borrowed from their children and from the Chinese. They just want the free stuff that comes their way at someone else’s expense. In the end, that 47% leaves very little margin for error for any Republican, and does not bode well for the future.
It is impossible to imagine a conservative candidate winning against such overwhelming odds. People do vote their pocketbooks. In essence, the people vote for a Congress who will not raise their taxes, and for a President who will give them free stuff, never mind who has to pay for it.
That engenders the second reason why Romney lost: the inescapable conclusion that the electorate is dumb – ignorant, and uninformed. Indeed, it does not pay to be an informed voter, because most other voters – the clear majority – are unintelligent and easily swayed by emotion and raw populism. That is the indelicate way of saying that too many people vote with their hearts and not their heads. That is why Obama did not have to produce a second term agenda, or even defend his first-term record. He needed only to portray Mitt Romney as a rapacious capitalist who throws elderly women over a cliff, when he is not just snatching away their cancer medication, while starving the poor and cutting taxes for the rich. Obama could get away with saying that “Romney wants the rich to play by a different set of rules” – without ever defining what those different rules were; with saying that the “rich should pay their fair share” – without ever defining what a “fair share” is; with saying that Romney wants the poor, elderly and sick to “fend for themselves” – without even acknowledging that all these government programs are going bankrupt, their current insolvency only papered over by deficit spending. Obama could get away with it because he knew he was talking to dunces waving signs and squealing at any sight of him.
During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Adlai Stevenson: “Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!” Stevenson called back: “That’s not enough, madam, we need a majority!” Truer words were never spoken.
Similarly, Obama (or his surrogates) could hint to blacks that a Romney victory would lead them back into chains and proclaim to women that their abortions and birth control would be taken away. He could appeal to Hispanics that Romney would have them all arrested and shipped to Mexico (even if they came from Cuba or Honduras), and unabashedly state that he will not enforce the current immigration laws. He could espouse the furtherance of the incestuous relationship between governments and unions – in which politicians ply the unions with public money, in exchange for which the unions provide the politicians with votes, in exchange for which the politicians provide more money and the unions provide more votes, etc., even though the money is gone. He could do and say all these things because he knew his voters were dolts.
One might reasonably object that not every Obama supporter could be unintelligent. But they must then rationally explain how the Obama agenda can be paid for, aside from racking up multi-trillion dollar deficits. “Taxing the rich” does not yield even 10% of what is required – so what is the answer, i.e., an intelligent answer?
Obama also knows that the electorate has changed – that whites will soon be a minority in America (they’re already a minority in California) and that the new immigrants to the US are primarily from the Third World and do not share the traditional American values that attracted immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is a different world, and a different America. Obama is part of that different America, knows it, and knows how to tap into it. That is why he won.
Obama also proved again that negative advertising works, invective sells, and harsh personal attacks succeed. That Romney never engaged in such diatribes points to his essential goodness as a person; his “negative ads” were simple facts, never personal abuse – facts about high unemployment, lower take-home pay, a loss of American power and prestige abroad, a lack of leadership, etc. As a politician, though, Romney failed because he did not embrace the devil’s bargain of making unsustainable promises, and by talking as the adult and not the adolescent. Obama has spent the last six years campaigning; even his governance has been focused on payoffs to his favored interest groups. The permanent campaign also won again, to the detriment of American life.
It turned out that it was not possible for Romney and Ryan – people of substance, depth and ideas – to compete with the shallow populism and platitudes of their opponents. Obama mastered the politics of envy – of class warfare – never reaching out to Americans as such but to individual groups, and cobbling together a winning majority from these minority groups. Conservative ideas failed to take root and states that seemed winnable, and amenable to traditional American values, have simply disappeared from the map. If an Obama could not be defeated – with his record and his vision of America, in which free stuff seduces voters – it is hard to envision any change in the future. The road to Hillary Clinton in 2016 and to a European-socialist economy – those very economies that are collapsing today in Europe – is paved.
A second cliché that should be retired is that America is a center-right country. It clearly is not. It is a divided country with peculiar voting patterns, and an appetite for free stuff. Studies will invariably show that Republicans in Congress received more total votes than Democrats in Congress, but that means little. The House of Representatives is not truly representative of the country. That people would vote for a Republican Congressmen or Senator and then Obama for President would tend to reinforce point two above: the empty-headedness of the electorate. Americans revile Congress but love their individual Congressmen. Go figure.
The mass media’s complicity in Obama’s re-election cannot be denied. One example suffices. In 2004, CBS News forged a letter in order to imply that President Bush did not fulfill his Air National Guard service during the Vietnam War, all to impugn Bush and impair his re-election prospects. In 2012, President Obama insisted – famously – during the second debate that he had stated all along that the Arab attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi was “terror” (a lie that Romney fumbled and failed to exploit). Yet, CBS News sat on a tape of an interview with Obama in which Obama specifically avoided and rejected the claim of terrorism – on the day after the attack – clinging to the canard about the video. (This snippet of a “60 Minutes” interview was not revealed - until two days ago!) In effect, CBS News fabricated evidence in order to harm a Republican president, and suppressed evidence in order to help a Democratic president. Simply shameful, as was the media’s disregard of any scandal or story that could have jeopardized the Obama re-election.
One of the more irritating aspects of this campaign was its limited focus, odd in light of the billions of dollars spent. Only a few states were contested, a strategy that Romney adopted, and that clearly failed. The Democrat begins any race with a substantial advantage. The liberal states – like the bankrupt California and Illinois – and other states with large concentrations of minority voters as well as an extensive welfare apparatus, like New York, New Jersey and others – give any Democratic candidate an almost insurmountable edge in electoral votes. In New Jersey, for example, it literally does not pay for a conservative to vote. It is not worth the fuel expended driving to the polls. As some economists have pointed out generally, and it resonates here even more, the odds are greater that a voter will be killed in a traffic accident on his way to the polls than that his vote will make a difference in the election. It is an irrational act. That most states are uncompetitive means that people are not amenable to new ideas, or new thinking, or even having an open mind. If that does not change, and it is hard to see how it can change, then the die is cast. America is not what it was, and will never be again.
For Jews, mostly assimilated anyway and staunch Democrats, the results demonstrate again that liberalism is their Torah. Almost 70% voted for a president widely perceived by Israelis and most committed Jews as hostile to Israel. They voted to secure Obama’s future at America’s expense and at Israel’s expense – in effect, preferring Obama to Netanyahu by a wide margin. A dangerous time is ahead. Under present circumstances, it is inconceivable that the US will take any aggressive action against Iran and will more likely thwart any Israeli initiative. That Obama’s top aide Valerie Jarrett (i.e., Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett) spent last week in Teheran is not a good sign. The US will preach the importance of negotiations up until the production of the first Iranian nuclear weapon – and then state that the world must learn to live with this new reality. As Obama has committed himself to abolishing America’s nuclear arsenal, it is more likely that that unfortunate circumstance will occur than that he will succeed in obstructing Iran’s plans.
Obama’s victory could weaken Netanyahu’s re-election prospects, because Israelis live with an unreasonable – and somewhat pathetic – fear of American opinion and realize that Obama despises Netanyahu. A Likud defeat – or a diminution of its margin of victory – is more probable now than yesterday. That would not be the worst thing. Netanyahu, in fact, has never distinguished himself by having a strong political or moral backbone, and would be the first to cave to the American pressure to surrender more territory to the enemy and acquiesce to a second (or third, if you count Jordan) Palestinian state. A new US Secretary of State named John Kerry, for example (he of the Jewish father) would not augur well. Netanyahu remains the best of markedly poor alternatives. Thus, the likeliest outcome of the upcoming Israeli elections is a center-left government that will force itself to make more concessions and weaken Israel – an Oslo III.
But this election should be a wake-up call to Jews. There is no permanent empire, nor is there is an enduring haven for Jews anywhere in the exile. The most powerful empires in history all crumbled – from the Greeks and the Romans to the British and the Soviets. None of the collapses were easily foreseen, and yet they were predictable in retrospect.
The American empire began to decline in 2007, and the deterioration has been exacerbated in the last five years. This election only hastens that decline. Society is permeated with sloth, greed, envy and materialistic excess. It has lost its moorings and its moral foundations. The takers outnumber the givers, and that will only increase in years to come. Across the world, America under Bush was feared but not respected. Under Obama, America is neither feared nor respected. Radical Islam has had a banner four years under Obama, and its prospects for future growth look excellent. The “Occupy” riots across this country in the last two years were mere dress rehearsals for what lies ahead – years of unrest sparked by the increasing discontent of the unsuccessful who want to seize the fruits and the bounty of the successful, and do not appreciate the slow pace of redistribution.
Two bright sides: Notwithstanding the election results, I arose this morning, went to shul, davened and learned Torah afterwards. That is our reality, and that trumps all other events. Our relationship with G-d matters more than our relationship with any politician, R or D. And, notwithstanding the problems in Israel, it is time for Jews to go home, to Israel. We have about a decade, perhaps 15 years, to leave with dignity and without stress. Thinking that it will always be because it always was has been a repetitive and deadly Jewish mistake. America was always the land from which “positive” aliya came – Jews leaving on their own, and not fleeing a dire situation. But that can also change. The increased aliya in the last few years is partly attributable to young people fleeing the high cost of Jewish living in America. Those costs will only increase in the coming years. We should draw the appropriate conclusions.
If this election proves one thing, it is that the Old America is gone. And, sad for the world, it is not coming back.
Should This Rabbi – Finally – Be Fired?
No.
Posted by: Jef | November 10, 2012 at 09:30 PM
Please, the RW mob has been calling Obama voters:
"Ignorant"
"Maggots"
"Lazy"
"Uneducated"
"Uninformed"
To say the least.
Get over the martydom b.s.
Posted by: SkepticalYid | November 10, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Martyrdom? That's a new one. I'd respond with a witty retort if I could figure out what the hell you meant.
The right wing is guilty of being idiots. The left wing are guilty of being satanically dishonest about their true intentions because they're moral relativists and machavellian engineers. The Jewish people are not as stupid as the left wing thinks we are.
Posted by: Korben Dallas | November 10, 2012 at 09:41 PM
Anyone else here think Shmarya acts like a thug and a bully?
Posted by: DBSesq | November 10, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Anyone else here think Shmarya acts like a thug and a bully?
Posted by: DBSesq | November 10, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Please.
You're a coward and you can't answer the points I made, so all you have left is to try to smear me.
You have a well deserved reputation yourself, you know, as a thug, a bully and and a sleazebag attorney.
Your bullying at East Ramapo school board meetings is legendary.
What a complete infant you are.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 10, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Anyone else here think Shmarya acts like a thug and a bully?
Posted by: DBSesq | November 10, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Anyone else here think Shmarya acts like a thug and a bully?
Posted by: DBSesq | November 10, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Please.
Danny boy, you're a coward and a sleazebag who bullies people for a living and, when it comes to East Ramapo schools, as an avocation.
And one day soon, when you're indicted, you can try your bullying in prison.
Make sure to let us all know how that works out for you.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 10, 2012 at 10:32 PM
WSC: "..there's free doughnuts and coffee, so I still go..."
RIght. Got to maintain focus on what's most important.....
:-)
Posted by: S M L | November 10, 2012 at 10:37 PM
I think Shmarya is a bully.
Posted by: DerNister | November 10, 2012 at 10:41 PM
I think Shmarya is a bully.
Posted by: DerNister | November 10, 2012 at 10:41 PM
If you could answer any of the points I've made regarding Pruzansky, it might be possible to take your opinion of me seriously.
But since both you and DBSesq are completely unable to do that, it's clear that real bullies are you two who use a smear like this to try to mask that fact that you can't support your argument in support of Pruzansky with facts.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 10, 2012 at 10:49 PM
No.. You're a lowlife bully. Since you won't ever engage in civil conversation, DBSesq is right in doing nothing more than pointing out that you are a thug and a bully. I think you're a bully because your father was probably an abusive man who bullied and intimidated you. No one is supporting Pruzansky. DBSesq didn't say anything Pruzansky. He just called you a thug and a bully. And you are
Posted by: DerNister | November 10, 2012 at 11:15 PM
This gloating over the the reelection of Messiah O' is just so delightful as rolling waves of job cuts are occuring left and right. the nite O clinched it people were getting emails concerning layoffs. Meanwhile a federal agency such as Fema has proven that it cannot adequately respond in a timely manner to a crisis. Yes indeed, elections have consequences and i must say i'm prepared to see the hordes of democratic lemmings twist in the wind, slowly.
Posted by: zionist goy | November 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM
No.. You're a lowlife bully. Since you won't ever engage in civil conversation, DBSesq is right in doing nothing more than pointing out that you are a thug and a bully. I think you're a bully because your father was probably an abusive man who bullied and intimidated you. No one is supporting Pruzansky. DBSesq didn't say anything Pruzansky. He just called you a thug and a bully. And you are
Posted by: DerNister | November 10, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Please.
I suggest you go back and read DBSesq's earlier comments.
You're wrong.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 10, 2012 at 11:29 PM
This gloating over the the reelection of Messiah O' is just so delightful as rolling waves of job cuts are occuring left and right. the nite O clinched it people were getting emails concerning layoffs. Meanwhile a federal agency such as Fema has proven that it cannot adequately respond in a timely manner to a crisis. Yes indeed, elections have consequences and i must say i'm prepared to see the hordes of democratic lemmings twist in the wind, slowly.
Posted by: zionist goy | November 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM
Please.
You need to be institutionalized.
There are no "rolling waves of job cuts."
You're a sick, demented liar.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 10, 2012 at 11:32 PM
DB, beyond getting a trifle excited when you use the term "deletia" I can only wonder why you would roll over into someone else's publication to incite people to rise up against him, waving their spears in righteous indignation yelling "J 'accuse! Bully!" Doesn't the fact that they are here to answer you give you pause?
I do hope you go away, but please, before you go, say it to me one more time.....softly...."deletia ...."
Adieu mon moron.
Posted by: dh | November 10, 2012 at 11:37 PM
wow all of a sudden quoting a jew isupposed to show this and that it is the same torah you always bash metzza bpeh and all jewish religion so dont be two facer
Posted by: david | November 10, 2012 at 11:52 PM
I'm coming late to this conversation. I am familiar with this community and shul. The previous rabbi, Macy Gordon, had a reasonable hashkafa, but was a cold fish. Pruzansky is an extremist, but is very personable (so I've heard). I think some people overlook his excesses because they think he's nice. I could be wrong.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 11, 2012 at 12:19 AM
"It turned out that it was not possible for Romney and Ryan – people of substance, depth and ideas [...]"
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Romney's religion makes Scientology look like a rational thought system
Romney's tax filing practices make Wesley Snipes blush
Romney's penchant for forced haircuts is creepy at best -- evil at worst
Romney's treatment of a family dog demonstrates that he doesn't even have the animal husbandry skills of a Bronze Age girl (cf. Parshat Chayei Sarah)
Posted by: Nigritude Ultramarine | November 11, 2012 at 12:30 AM
DBesq -
Why don't you answer those questions Shmarya posed to you?
Or do you have no answers, so you just try to change the subject saying "Shmarya is a bully"?
Posted by: Abracadabra | November 11, 2012 at 04:42 AM
DBSEsq is a community activist who really does something for Jews.
Shmarya is just a soundbox who does not know that his kitrug will one day backfire on him - and that the only ones to whom he will be able to go for help, hat in hand and tail between legs, are those whom he mocks.
DBSEsq does not have to lower himself to answer the likes of a Shmarya. His job is to protect his TAXPAYING constituency, and he does it well. Shmarya is a taker and a user who spits on everyone who feeds him, but I guess it is like watching a chimp spit after you throw it a banana - it is kind of funny to see Shmarya vomit his misery and loserschaft every day.
However, the mitigating factor is that he is entertaining, and for that alone he deserves a long (and miserable, so he can keep the laughable stuff going) life.
Posted by: The Anti-Schmerl | November 11, 2012 at 05:24 AM
Anyone else here think Shmarya acts like a thug and a bully?
Actually, Danny - and I've said this here many times - I think he's far too tolerant. I'd ban most of the frum commenters here so the rest of us could manage to have an intelligent conversation.
He's right; you have no answers to his questions, and I'm right - you read into his post precisely what you wanted to.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 05:39 AM
Orthodoxy is moving toward the right, and I think thats a good thing. Losers like shmamarya and wsc will be completely outnumbered by the next generation.
Posted by: cheers | November 10, 2012 at 09:03 PM
The next generation of what? Modern Orthodoxy is all but gone, and the Haredi world is collapsing, unable to sustain itself. You have about a generation left, at most.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 05:43 AM
And Danny, re: "thug and bully" - the next time one of your holy rabbonim behaves dictatorially (a common occurrence in your world, I'm given to understand), should you have the courage to call him, publicly, a thug and a bully, please be good enough to email me. You can get the address from Shmarya. I'll have much more respect for you if you can demonstrate that you at least try not to implement a double standard.
But I won't hold my breath.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 05:49 AM
<>Your beef--and Pruzansky's--seems to be that the Obama voters had the chutzpah to vote their own interests rather than yours.
Posted by: MM | November 10, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Thank you, MM. You just said in one sentence what it took him eighteen paragraphs to get out.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 05:52 AM
Shmarya, that's no lie, especially in the Northeast. 700 to 800 at ameridose. Many planned at a franchise you may be familiar with; McDonald's. Many individual losses i heard of personally simply going into small businesses and hearing patrons. The worst is yet to come and btw, i strongly believe that last preelection report of 7.9 unemployment was a Lie.The financial Exchange w/ Barry Armstrong is a good program to listen to concerning this.As a liberal optimist do you actually expect the jobs picture to get better in the next 4 with the imposition of Obamacare and higher taxes and regulations on corporations?
Posted by: zionist goy | November 11, 2012 at 05:53 AM
Close tag
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 05:57 AM
Okay, let me try this again:
Your beef--and Pruzansky's--seems to be that the Obama voters had the chutzpah to vote their own interests rather than yours.
Posted by: MM | November 10, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Thank you, MM. You just said in one sentence what it took him eighteen paragraphs to get out.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 05:58 AM
If anyone is interested, I saw this segment on Cpan this morning - Author Hendrick Smith talking about his book, "Who Stole the American Dream?" He has a very different take on it:
http://www.booktv.org/Watch/13833/Who+Stole+the+American+Dream.aspx
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 06:03 AM
Jeff, shouldn't you be reading the necronomicon or something?
Posted by: Korben Dallas | November 11, 2012 at 06:31 AM
Jeff, shouldn't you be reading the necronomicon or something?
I'm impressed you even know what that is. Of course, I'm sure you think it's a liberal conspiracy.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 06:33 AM
He didn't say anything so terrible.
Posted by: Sephardiman | November 11, 2012 at 07:01 AM
Do you look at the picture of Obama you have hanging in your living room before you make a sacrifice to the horned god, or do you just keep him in mind when you bow to the devil?
Posted by: Korben Dallas | November 11, 2012 at 07:04 AM
The sad thing is that you think you have something of value to contribute.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 07:07 AM
Hey remember when you had to lie about hating God before the election because it made Obama look bad? You must be relieved to be over that bullshit amirite?
Is your copy of the necronomicon hardcover or foreskin?
Posted by: Korben Dallas | November 11, 2012 at 07:18 AM
Hey remember when you had to lie about hating God before the election because it made Obama look bad?
??
You're psychotic garbage. I'm done with you. Have the last word.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 07:23 AM
Oh but I'm not done with you, Jeffie boy.
Posted by: Korben Dallas | November 11, 2012 at 07:26 AM
Oh but I'm not done with you, Jeffie boy.
Yeah, I'm quaking.
If you were really as secure in your beliefs as you claim to be, you wouldn't bother with me. In fact, you wouldn't bother with this site.
You're trying desperately to convince yourself you're right.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 07:30 AM
Wow. Mittens rMoney's frumbag supporters are really sore losers, aren't they?
KD, LAC, Danny Boy, all the usual suspects are here. Perhaps you could convince your handlers to let you go to a pharmacy, get some soothing ointment for the severe case of butthurt you all have. You might even get a discount for buying in bulk!
Zionist Goon - Have you started conversion yet bucko? Oh wait, Jesus probably wouldn't like that, would he?
You're so hilariously transparent, I could use bits of you to fix a scratched windscreen.
Who do you think you're fooling? Fucking wanksock.
Posted by: No_Light | November 11, 2012 at 07:53 AM
++zionist goy | November 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM++
This is your hero, who threatened workers with job cuts.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/david-siegel-hasn-t-fired-anyone-yet.html
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 11, 2012 at 08:05 AM
Perhaps Key & Peele can explain the election results to KD, LAC, Danny Boy, and the rest of our friends who are still trapped in the Fox News echo chamber:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX8tL3PMj7o
The fear mongering, demagoguery, and vilification tactics didn't work in 2008, they didn't work last week, and yet you are still at it?
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 11, 2012 at 08:18 AM
Speaking of LAC, I am still waiting for the public apology he owes me. LAC, be a mensch and admit you and your reality-challenged sources were wrong, and Nate SIlver (and I) were right--100%. You crowed I wouldn't be man enough to admit my error. Now eat your crow. BTW I was born without testicles, but you seem to have misplaced yours. I can only assume you are not man emough to take responsibility for your own foolish and intemperate speech.
Posted by: MM | November 11, 2012 at 08:58 AM
DerNister-Calling shmarya a bully just shows how weak minded you are.
Posted by: jancsbacsi | November 11, 2012 at 09:14 AM
Korben Dallas-Go back watching the 5th element you are delusional.
Posted by: jancsbacsi | November 11, 2012 at 09:23 AM
Korben Dallas, Lubavitchers are Christians,
Somebody just heard on Fox News that Obama is re-opening Auschwitz. Jews in some communities have already received instructions to report to train stations. You should leave America immediately. I can offer you a ride to the airport; I am not too far from EWR and JFK. Pack a suitcase.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 11, 2012 at 09:31 AM
When has Shmarya ever treated anyone who disagreed with him respectfully? I can't find a single example. He's a bully
Posted by: DerNister | November 11, 2012 at 09:38 AM
Posted by: zionist goy | November 11, 2012 at 05:53 AM
Yes. You're right. You might not be lying – you just belong in a mental institution.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 11, 2012 at 09:45 AM
When has Shmarya ever treated anyone who disagreed with him respectfully? I can't find a single example. He's a bully
Posted by: DerNister | November 11, 2012 at 09:38 AM
You still can't answer the points I made, and all you have left is to try to smear me.
You're pathetic.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 11, 2012 at 09:48 AM
Shmarya answer my point. Why do you deserve to haver people dialogue with you? When have you ever shown any respect to anyone who is agrees with you? DBSesq is right. You aren't worthy of intelligent on versatile due to your bullying of people. Why do you do it? Generally people act the way you do because they are insecure.
Posted by: DerNister | November 11, 2012 at 10:05 AM
MM & WSC - Our reality-challenged 'friends' will do what their heroes do; dodge and deny, dodge and deny, dodge and deny.
They'd rather admit that bacon sandwiches are kosher, than admit that all of their pre-election crowing was just oh-so-much brainwashed bullshit.
In their minds rMoney won, but the ebil librul meeja conspired with Al Qaeda to keep Obama in power.
Posted by: No_Light | November 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Shmarya answer my point. Why do you deserve to haver people dialogue with you? When have you ever shown any respect to anyone who is agrees with you? DBSesq is right. You aren't worthy of intelligent on versatile due to your bullying of people. Why do you do it? Generally people act the way you do because they are insecure.
Posted by: DerNister | November 11, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Please.
DBSesq made certain points which are false, and failed to answer my points made in my post.
I challenged him to answer those points I made and instead of doing so, he cried that I'm a bully.
Either you can defend what you allege or you can't. DBSesq clearly can't, and to try to distract attention from that, he smeared me.
I challenged you to answer my points and you failed to do so, as well. Instead, you echoed DBSesq's smear.
So put up or shut up, little man.
The Torah forbids denigrating poor people and it commands us to help poor people in the most respectful way possible, and to do whatever we can to help lift them out of poverty. It our special task from God, our 'shittuf' with Him, so to speak, to do this. But Pruzansky's post is the exact opposite of this.
How can a person be an Orthodox rabbi if he advocates violating the Torah's commands, if he takes positions the Torah disagrees with?
Answer that, little man, or shut your gaping trap.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 11, 2012 at 10:19 AM
No not until you make your points respectfully. Why is it so hard for you to show any kavod habriyot?
Posted by: DerNister | November 11, 2012 at 10:25 AM
++ No_Light | November 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM++
How true!
Perhaps this song will explain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE&feature=related
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 11, 2012 at 10:28 AM
DerNister, the respect you get is proportional to the respect you show.
Meanwhile, here's a song for you and Myth Romney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH7pAiodDyA&feature=fvwrel
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 11, 2012 at 10:38 AM
When did I at anything about Mitt Romney? Don't confuse the two please. And if one has to give respect to get it, then Shmarya deserves none. He has never shown anyone any respect at all.
Posted by: DerNister | November 11, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Necromomicon? Is that like Comicon for the dead?
Posted by: dh | November 11, 2012 at 10:56 AM
When did I at anything about Mitt Romney? Don't confuse the two please. And if one has to give respect to get it, then Shmarya deserves none. He has never shown anyone any respect at all.
Posted by: DerNister | November 11, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Please.
You're an infant.
DBSesq came here and made assertions that completely avoided the facts.
I challenged him and he failed to confront those facts, instead calling me a bully in the hope that idiots like you would be diverted.
Most people didn't fall for it. You did.
As for what I am, I let morons like you post comments and I let people who oppose me post comments when I could easily block them from doing so.
I'm not a bully.
Now either answer the points I made about Pruzansky or shut your flapping hole,
Posted by: Shmarya | November 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM
You are a thug and a bully. Your contempt and disrespect for any disparate views proves it.
Posted by: DerNister | November 11, 2012 at 11:18 AM
the ramapo school board does not seem like the most transparent local governance in the world.
Posted by: gopjew | November 11, 2012 at 11:41 AM
You are a thug and a bully. Your contempt and disrespect for any disparate views proves it.
Posted by: DerNister | November 11, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Please.
You're being a baby.
I let you post comments. I let DBSesq post comments. I let tons of people who disagree with me post comments.
But I don't allow people to lie and I don't allow people to avoid dealing with the facts by reverting to diversionary tactics like smearing people.
So, little man, you've proven that you can't deal with the facts and that all you can do is try to smear me as a diversion from your moronkeit.
Toddle off.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 11, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Pruzansky and Modox (among others around here) accused Obama voters of being stupid and ignorant for voting as they did. Maureen Dowd gives a succinct explanation for the Obama supporters' choice:
Romney and Tea Party loonies dismissed half the country as chattel and moochers who did not belong in their “traditional” America. But the more they insulted the president with birther cracks, the more they tried to force chastity belts on women, and the more they made Hispanics, blacks and gays feel like the help, the more these groups burned to prove that, knitted together, they could give the dead-enders of white male domination the boot.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/opinion/sunday/dowd-romney-is-president.html?ref=opinion
Dowd quotes the Republican Karen Hughes:
As W.’s former aide Karen Hughes put it in Politico on Friday, “If another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime, I want to personally cut out his tongue.”
Never mind the fact that Republican economic policies as espoused in this election are not in the interests of great swathes of the American electorate (many of whom do not even realize this), you can't insult people on a personal level and lie to their faces and expect them to support you.
Republicans need to think about their basic principles and develop policies that genuinely reflect those principles. If you are about less government intrusion, then don't try to have the government force your own particular religious beliefs down everyone else's throats. Don't try to tell people whom they may love and marry. Don't forbid people from using their preferred recreational substance (marijuana), when your preferred recreational substance (alcohol) is legal Big Business. Don't meddle in other people's sex lives (unless their sexual preferences involve coercion and minors). Don't tell women that the life of a fetus must be protected at all costs, while their own lives and well being are expendable. Don't tell women who want to exercise their sexuality on their own terms without becoming pregnant that they are sluts.
If the Republicans are the party supporting entrepreneurship and small business, then don't become in thrall to the Waltons' billions, made by crushing small businesses all over the conuntry with dubious business practices. Don't toady up to Big Oil and the other fossil fuel industries and assist them in derailing the efforts of small start-ups in the alternative renewable energy field.
There are many people who didn't vote Republican, but who might well if Republican policies matched the stated Republican principles.
Posted by: MM | November 11, 2012 at 12:05 PM
I am a hardcore conservative republican but I place the loss solely on Romney the American people wants as well as competence which Romney has, someone who cares about them which Romney didn't display very well. The election is all Romney's fuck up. You can't tell the public to vote for someone who isn't empathetic.
Posted by: gopjew | November 11, 2012 at 12:40 PM
++gopjew | November 11, 2012 at 11:41 AM++
++gopjew | November 11, 2012 at 12:40 PM++
I agree with both these posts.
I do not doubt that Romney, or McCain 4 years ago, is a capable competent person. They were vilified by their own fellow Republicans in their primary debates, forced to choose far-right running mates that appealed to the crazies in the base but to nobody else, and forced to espouse positions that they truly didn't believe.
Just look at YouTube tapes of Romney's speeches from 1994, his debate with Ted Kennedy, etc. You would not recognize he is the same person that you saw running this year.
Not one Republican person, except you here at 12:40, has even begun to step up and say "We messed up big time. Our campaign made it seem that we have no interest in anyone other than angry old white men."
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 11, 2012 at 01:46 PM
++MM | November 11, 2012 at 12:05 PM++
That was excellent!
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 11, 2012 at 01:48 PM
To all you Republicans out there, how does this grab ya?
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/no_to_
israel_yes_to_obama_eJv5cn95wABTi7Bzvxc4GK
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 11, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Both Romney and McCain are RINOS idc about them but to say Romney only cares aboout angry old white men is just an Obama smear. Romney cares about everyone and didn't articulate it very well at all.
Romney has more experience creating jobs than Obama ever will.
Posted by: gopjew | November 11, 2012 at 05:57 PM
Romney has more experience creating jobs than Obama ever will.
Romney made his money by leveraging businesses other people worked to build, appropriating and dismantling them. His experience lies in destroying jobs, not creating them.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2012 at 06:29 PM
RINO implies that they're not radical and extremist enough to fit the official party platform.
Just keep shoving abortions, birth control, stem cells, guns, and Big Oil in everyone's face for every campaign. You've already lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections.
And BTW, Romney cares only about Romney. Stop kidding yourself, gopjew.
Clean Coal, my ass.
The Republican Party is already in the rear view mirror.
Bye-bye, gopjew.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 11, 2012 at 07:58 PM
Isn't 'gopJew' our old buddy 'Simpleton Jew'?
Expecting logical consistency from him is like expecting stellar choreography from a chocolate labrador, or haute cuisine from a house-rabbit.
Posted by: No_Light | November 11, 2012 at 10:29 PM
This has been an interesting read. Shmarya attacked R. Pruzansky, trying to intimidate him as he usually does. I commented, not in defense of R. Pruzansky, but in response to Shmarya's intimidating modus operandi. Rather than address my specific concern, Shmarya asked me to explain R. Pruzansky, something I never set out to do. It's almost as if R. Pruzansky's opinions justify Shmarya's thuggery and personal insults to those with whom he disagrees.
Let me make it clear, in case he didn't get it the first time. I don't know that Ia agree with everything R. Pruzansky wrote (although Modox, certainly did provide a compelling post). I have no intention of defending him. It was not at all what I set out to do. I do intend to call Shmarya out for his thuggish intimidation of people.
Posted by: DBSesq | November 11, 2012 at 10:50 PM
Posted by: DBSesq | November 11, 2012 at 10:50 PM
Oh, please.
You're a pompous ass, a bully and coward. (As dozens of East Ramapo residents will willingly testify.)
I made actual, real halakhic points and showed that Pruzansky violated halakhic principles and basic Jewish theology with his post.
I pointed out that he has a history of doing this.
I then asked a question: CCan a rabbi who openly violates halakha and advocates violating halakha still be a rabbi?
I answered that with a resounding no, and pointed out that the RCA and Pruzansky's shul should fire him – but they won't, because they have a history of cowardice and covering for him.
There is no bullying at all in this.
I let assholes like you comment even though you're an unethical buffoon with your own history of actual, real bullying.
What I got for that was your attempt to bully your way out my challenge to you to defend Pruzansky's writing in the light of halakha – something you've since shown you can 't do.
Your response was to try to bully your way out by smearing me.
But it won't work.
You're a coward, Danny Boy, just like other bullies are.
And as I've written before, one day soon you'll have to defend your actions in court (with some luck, federal court), and you're pompousness and your bulling will fail you then as they have failed you now.
And the the people of East Ramapo will get the justice that they have so long and so richly deserved.
And that day cannot come soon enough.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 11, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Yep ok again we goooooooooooooooooooooo
First to answer Jeff's suggestion that Romney DESTROYS companies, does Staples, Sport Authority, Bright Horizons, and Steel Dynamics look destroyed?? Of course not. lol little economics lesson for you baby Jeff, an angry little leftist who probably hates God and Jerusalem and lied about it before the election to protect Obama; IN THE VENTURE CAPITAL INDUSTRY NOT EVERY INVESTMENT IS SUCCESSFUL. like, uuuum, SOLYNDRA for example.
WoolSilk you need to stop taking butt sex from Chris Matthews and read REAL commentary why Romney lost.
And uuum No Light, here we go again. Libs attempting to diminish and insult the education of someone they disagree with.
I have a question for Jeff and No Light, does the both of you hate God and Jerusalem because you are both gay?
Just asking. roflmao
Posted by: gopjew | November 11, 2012 at 11:16 PM
Gopjew, I have to tell you, and I kid you not, I lost everything I had invested in Steel Dynamics. I had forgotten about that.
Jeff and No Light aren't diminishing and insulting your education because they disagree with you. It's because you are a stupidicous.
You insult whatever education you received on the grounds that you are the worst kind of racist. One that finds a titillation in something his education informed him was abominable. You get gratification not just picturing in your mind the graphics of what you are saying but the payoff is double because you get to try to humiliate other people with whom you disagree. I bet you were on the debate team, huh?
Cover your mirrors or you will see the monstrosity that is you.
Posted by: dh | November 12, 2012 at 12:00 AM
DB @ 10:50
Why would you feel the need to comment here as a response to Shmarya intimidating The Pruz when you yourself just said he was only "usually " intimidated by Shmarya? It doesn't sound like much of a calamity for him. It apparently doesn't even happen all the time. Nah, there must have been another reason. Hmmm, what could it be....[tapping forhead with index finger ]……………
Posted by: dh | November 12, 2012 at 12:14 AM
Lenin was part Jewish, debate settled.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2077413,00.html
Posted by: Ynot | November 12, 2012 at 01:09 AM
This right wing rubbish makes me sick. These people are supposed to be intelligent? He should take his fascist dialogue back to Hackensack where it belongs.
Posted by: Ynot | November 12, 2012 at 01:16 AM
Rabbi Pruzansky is 100% correct. Obama won with the moochers. The rabbi was NOT attacking poor people, and you know it. He was attacking those who don't want to work and have their grubby fingers in my pocket. What's this dementia for Obama among your posters? You're a bunch of Kool-Aid drinking idiots. This Chicago thug who never had a job and voted PRESENT during his tenure as a legislator is ruining of what's left of this once great country.
Posted by: Lou Kaist | November 12, 2012 at 03:58 AM
You're a bunch of Kool-Aid drinking idiots.
And once again, as I always say - no sense of irony.
Posted by: Jeff | November 12, 2012 at 04:28 AM
lol little economics lesson for you baby Jeff, an angry little leftist who probably hates God and Jerusalem and lied about it before the election to protect Obama
I have no idea of what's being said here. You picked this up from Korbendallas. It didn't make any sense when he said it, either.
Posted by: Jeff | November 12, 2012 at 04:32 AM
It was nice to hear from DBSesq. His post was a welcome clarification of his point. And Shmarya made DBSesq's point for him in his response. DBSesq seems too decent a person to call Shmarya what he really is, but I will. Shmarya is a self righteous sanctimonious, self important thuggish bully. He refuses to explain why he always has to insult and denigrate people who disagree with him. And until he does, I too plan on calling him on it until it stops.
Posted by: DerNister | November 12, 2012 at 08:41 AM
It was nice to hear from DBSesq. His post was a welcome clarification of his point. And Shmarya made DBSesq's point for him in his response. DBSesq seems too decent a person to call Shmarya what he really is, but I will. Shmarya is a self righteous sanctimonious, self important thuggish bully. He refuses to explain why he always has to insult and denigrate people who disagree with him. And until he does, I too plan on calling him on it until it stops.
Posted by: DerNister | November 12, 2012 at 08:41 AM
I don't tolerate dishonesty well, and I don't tolerate idiots like you, who are both intellectually dishonest and not bright, at all.
And there's no reason that I should.
I made very specific HALAKHIC and THEOLOGICAL points that showed that Pruzansky was actively violating Jewish law and advocating that others do the same.
DBSesq defended Pruzansky but did not address or overcome any of those HALAKHIC and THEOLOGICAL points.
And he has consistently refused to do so as have you.
Granted, you're not smart. Granted, you're not honest.
But you (and he) still have to pony up.
Either explain why these HALAKHIC and THEOLOGICAL points are wrong or explain why Pruzansky is exempt from them.
If you can't do that – and I suspect that you, especially, cannot – then shut up. Close that gaping hole of yours and attempt to process the fact that you are defending a rabbi who advocates things Judaism rejects. Get that tiny little brain of yours all fired up and chugging, put your little thinking cap on, and think about that.
Or, if that is beyond you – and I can't help but think that it is – go ask a rabbi you trust.
While I doubt your rabbi will condemn Pruzansky, he'll certainly point out that what Pruzansky wrote (as posted here, not as he much later edited for the Jewish Press) is beyond the pale.
Now toddle off.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 12, 2012 at 08:55 AM
Shmarya, here's an idea. Rather than threaten and try to indimidate him, how about you RESPECTFULLY ask Rabbi Pruzansky to answer your questions? Are you interested in real and serious dialogue, or are you simply interested in insulting a prominent talmid chacham? Why ask me to explain Rabbi Pruzansky's point of view, when you can ask him directly?
Posted by: DBSesq | November 12, 2012 at 09:10 AM
Let me just add, since you claim to be so very concerned with honesty, please be honest yourself. Exactly what is your agenda; discussion of important issues concerning Orthodox Jewry, including its many problems, or muckraking and insulting people? If it's the former, I suggest you write Rabbi Pruzansky, and ask him to clarify his blog post in light of your understanding of Judaism and Jewish values. If it's the later, then carry on as you have. But don't get so irate when people call you what you are; a thug and a bully.
Posted by: DBSesq | November 12, 2012 at 09:31 AM
Shmarya, here's an idea. Rather than threaten and try to indimidate him, how about you RESPECTFULLY ask Rabbi Pruzansky to answer your questions? Are you interested in real and serious dialogue, or are you simply interested in insulting a prominent talmid chacham? Why ask me to explain Rabbi Pruzansky's point of view, when you can ask him directly?
Posted by: DBSesq | November 12, 2012 at 09:10 AM
Let me just add, since you claim to be so very concerned with honesty, please be honest yourself. Exactly what is your agenda; discussion of important issues concerning Orthodox Jewry, including its many problems, or muckraking and insulting people? If it's the former, I suggest you write Rabbi Pruzansky, and ask him to clarify his blog post in light of your understanding of Judaism and Jewish values. If it's the later, then carry on as you have. But don't get so irate when people call you what you are; a thug and a bully.
Posted by: DBSesq | November 12, 2012 at 09:31 AM
Please.
He published an article that clearly violates Jewish law.
My job is to report that. I did.
Pruzansky has no defense just the way you have no defense for him.
He has a long history of bullying media who try to get him to comment on his own rantings, and he's never been honest regarding them.
In the same way, you have a well-documented history of bullying people in East Ramapo and of unethical behavior on blogs.
So here's the deal, Danny Boy: put up or shut up.
If you can show that Pruzansky did not violate halakha with that article, that he did not advocate things that are in opposition to Jewish law and theology, do it.
Otherwise, admit that you can't.
It's quite simple.
Do it.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 12, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Stop obfuscating. Answer a simple question; what are you out to accomplish; engendering discussion of the issues, or muckracking? The editorial nature of your posts, clearly demonstrates that you are not interested in merely reporting news or factoids. You clearly have an agenda. That's ok; you're entitled to one. You're entitled to advance it. But beyond that, what is your goal? Given the snide condescension, and bullying in which you tend to engage, it seems all you're really interested in is insulting people whose worldview you dislike; That's ok too. Just be man enough to admit it when asked.
Posted by: DBSesq | November 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM
DBSesq asks, "Rather than threaten and try to indimidate him, how about you RESPECTFULLY ask Rabbi Pruzansky to answer your questions?" Problem is Rabbi Pruzansky does not answer questions or respond to criticism. It has been noted that there have been no responses published on his blog other than positive ones, while there has been a vigorous discussion on Cross-Currents (where the article was also published). It would appear that Rabbi Pruzansky simply supresses negative comments or challenges when he can. He is only interested in the comments of dittoheads (to use a Rush Limbaughism).
Posted by: Lawrence M. Reisman | November 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM
There is no such thing as a victim of tzedakah (which is essentially what this rabbi is saying the so-called "freeloaders" are creating).
Posted by: Rueven Aharon | November 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM
DB says "I will not engage in a conversation with someone who resorts to personal attacks, insults and other intimidation techniques." but that is exactly what his initiating post did. Since he refuses to discuss the substance of the attacks, insults and other intimidation techniques used by The Pruz and he refuses to discuss the election, all that is left is a post composed with the intent and sole mission of attacking and insulting Shmarya.
DB is looking for a mutiny since Shmarya is unable to be intimidated. There will never be a mutiny. He wants to bully here as though this is a meeting of his school board and we are the taxpaying parents.
DB you impress only yourself. Go back on the playground and try to kick dirt in someone else's face. Plenty of people have argued, to their satisfaction, differing opinions with Shmarya. You won't. That makes you an idiot.
The only reason you won't discuss facts and substance is because you thought you could get a few shallow thinkers on your bandwagon, but sadly, no matter how much we would like to see them leave with you no one is leaving. Shmarya doesn't mind freeloaders as does The Pruz.
In a million years you could never garner the world wide following of Shmarya. And you won't bring him down. You don't even have the following of your neighbors. But I know whose following you. And they're the ones with the key to your cell.
Posted by: dh | November 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Posted by: DBSesq | November 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM
You can't actually defend him within halakha, now can you, Danny.
So you keep desperately trying to smear me rather than admit that Pruzansky is wrong.
Your little games aren't working in East Ramapo or with the state, and I doubt they'll work when you get hauled before a judge, either.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 12, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Oh Simpleton Jew, you're so predictable:
And uuum No Light, here we go again. Libs attempting to diminish and insult the education of someone they disagree with.">/I>
There are plenty of people I disagree with who are intelligent, well-educated, and accept that their subjective opinion will not become universal truth by shouting about it.
You're not one of them. You're a cretinous, reality
-immune, logic-deficient, microcephalic mouthbreather. You make algae look sophisticated, you appear to be in possession of a substance even denser than dark matter. Between your ears.
Calling you an idiot is such a gross underexaggeratiom, that it would be like calling a blue whale "pretty big".
Oh, and I'm not American either. I don't fall into either of your simplistic political camps.
"
I have a question for Jeff and No Light, does [sic] the both of you hate God and Jerusalem because you are both[sic] gay?"
Neither Jerusalem, nor the Sky Daddy, feature in my life. I do not give the tiniest of fucks about either of them, oh simple one. Why would I give two shits about, let alone actively hate a place I've never been to, and an entity that doesn't exist?
Weird.
Also, AFAIK Jeff is a heterosexual. I'm not, but then that's never been a secret. I haven't exactly kept quiet about it.
Why would I hate anyone simply because I'm not straight? I mean, if you're the best that the XY chromosome has to offer? I'm pretty fucking relieved, no, THRILLED, that men aren't my thing.
Just asking. roflmao
And I just answered, so STFU & GTFO
Posted by: gopjew | Simpleton Jew aka RomneyRimmer.
Oh, and DerFister - You and Danny should just stick to your school board circlejerks. Not only are you out of your depth here, but Shmarya just had new carpets fitted and you're making the pile all nasty.
Posted by: No_Light | November 12, 2012 at 05:48 PM
Messed up my tags. Oh for an edit button.
Round Two:
Oh Simpleton Jew, you're so predictable:
And uuum No Light, here we go again. Libs attempting to diminish and insult the education of someone they disagree with."
There are plenty of people I disagree with who are intelligent, well-educated, and accept that their subjective opinion will not become universal truth by shouting about it.
You're not one of them. You're a cretinous, reality
-immune, logic-deficient, microcephalic mouthbreather. You make algae look sophisticated, you appear to be in possession of a substance even denser than dark matter. Between your ears.
Calling you an idiot is such a gross underexaggeratiom, that it would be like calling a blue whale "pretty big".
Oh, and I'm not American either. I don't fall into either of your simplistic political camps.
"
I have a question for Jeff and No Light, does [sic] the [sic]both of you hate God and Jerusalem because you are both[sic] gay?"
Neither Jerusalem, nor the Sky Daddy, feature in my life. I do not give the tiniest of fucks about either of them, oh simple one. Why would I give two shits about, let alone actively hate, a place I've never been to and an entity that doesn't exist?
Weird.
Also, AFAIK, Jeff is a heterosexual. I'm not, but then that's never been a secret. I haven't exactly kept quiet about it.
Why would I hate anyone simply because I'm not straight? I mean, if you're the best that the XY chromosome has to offer? I'm pretty fucking relieved, no, THRILLED, that men aren't my thing.
Just asking. roflmao
And I just answered, so STFU & GTFO
Posted by: gopjew | Simpleton Jew aka RomneyRimmer.
Oh, and DerFister - You and Danny should just stick to your school board circlejerks. Not only are you out of your depth here, but Shmarya just had new carpets fitted and you're making the pile all nasty.
Posted by: No_Light | November 12, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Gopjew, looks like your hero David Siegel changed his mind again.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/12/news/companies/ceo-no-layoffs-raises/index.html?iid=Popular
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar | November 12, 2012 at 07:09 PM