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November 25, 2012

NYC Haredim Voted Overwhelmingly For Romney

Mitt Romney and Paul RyanIn some precincts in the heavily hasidic New York City neighborhood of Borough Park, Brooklyn, Romney won more than 90% of the vote.

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan
Mitt Romney, left, with his candidate for vice president, Congressman Paul Ryan

In some precincts in the heavily hasidic New York City neighborhood of Borough Park, Brooklyn, Romney won more than 90% of the vote.

However, Romney's vote total in the entire city was far, far lower – he won only 18.3% of the votes.

Romney won only 47% of the nations popular vote and lost to President Obama in an electoral college landslide.

More details and map with results are posted on the NY Times website.

[Hat Tip: Burich.]

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this is bad news to libs who feel that jews and blacks should be a one party (Democrat) state.

I guess they didn't realize that Romney wants to limit food stamps.

NYC Haredim Voted Overwhelmingly For Romney

I wonder what percentage of NYC blacks voted for Obama?

Well, in fairness to the Charedim, it shows they can do some things right (well, maybe only one thing), although probably for the wrong reasons...

Posted by: DJ | November 25, 2012 at 05:52 AM

Romney belongs to a cult that posthumously baptized dead Jews. He never recanted that practice and tacitly admitted participating.

Turkeys voting for Christmas...

DJ,

If Romney were Jewish, then you would have had a point.

How many frummies in NJ voted for Shmuley Boteach? More than a few, I would think.

haredi are stupid . it is pointless to vote for a white candidate , bc FROM NOW IN , the blacks will always win , bc blacks are more numerous than whites =
more votes . PLUS the hispanics and the dark skin colored ppl . so, there is no way doday that a white candidate will win .

if ppl do not understand that , then , they are stupid .

blacks who, in the past, never went to the polls to vote did it for the first time starting 4 years ago and now , too .

blacks were taken out ( half dead ) of nursing homes , hospitals and rehab centers to vote . in the past, they did not bother .

same thing locally , the blacks will be represented . in 30 years , nyc will be 80%black , therefore politically represented .
the mayor will be a black mayor , senators will be blacks senators , etc ........

just 50 years ago, blacks were not represented politically at all . segregation was permanently present .
look now . blacks established themselves politically thanks to their numbers .
they grew fast , bc they multiplied like crazy .

in 50 years , america will be black .
white ppl will be a minority . ( like south africa )

NYC already had a black mayor 20 years ago.

DJ,

If you hate black people so much, then move to Idaho. I'm sure that they'll welcome you with open arms (sarcasm...).

Rather than just shout at and about Haredi Jews (fun though that may be) I try to engage them one on one off board whenever possible. While I have no doubt but that the article is correct, I have been struck by the level of buyer's remorse expressed for that vote post election when they've ad the time and inclination to actually look at Romney and what he stood for on a timeline. One person in particular (who posts here from time to time) expressed the post election thought that he still didn't trust Obama - that he voted for Romney (as instructed), but is not at all unhappy with the results. His one pain point is the belief (not shared by enough of his friends) that public assistance will lead to the destruction of Haredi Judaism, and that they as a group need to be more self reliant. One point upon which we share absolute agreement

The race was not about Romney - it was about defeating Obama and in the end, most people voted FOR a person.

The Republicans became the party of angry white men.

The frumma are a cult of angry white men.

The frumma vote is meaningless outside of NY politics.

Obama did better in 2012 in the Satmar Hasidic village of Kiryas Joel, NY than he did in 2008. See the preliminary numbers here:

http://www.vosizneias.com/117061/2012/11/11/oranage-county-ny-to-protest-zionist-interests-many-kiryas-joel-residents-voted-obama

More interesting are the comments made by Satmar Rabbi Teitelbaum in December 2011. Read here: "Satmar Rebe Condemns Jews Who Bash Obama"

http://www.vosizneias.com/97152

These days, Jewish voters are more important for their political campaign contributions than for their actual votes. As assimilated Jews are increasingly replaced by poorer, very religious Jews, even the role of Jewish money in election campaigns will diminish.


"His one pain (sic) point is the belief (not shared by enough of his friends) that public assistance will lead to the destruction of Haredi Judaism, and that they as a group need to be more self reliant."

That would require work. Hareidim, in the main, give that a wide berth. Some would say their manner of dress guarantees it.


Except at night [...] men wear a kind of uniform made of durable, stain-resistant material in
brown, blue or gray These uniforms, or 'suits,' have up to ten pockets, in which men carry instruments and tools indispensable for their work.

For social events men are permitted to wear black, a color that shows marks and stains, since on those occasions men are less likely to dirty themselves.

The Manipulated Man, Esther Vilar

More interesting are the comments made by Satmar Rabbi Teitelbaum in December 2011. Read here: "Satmar Rebe Condemns Jews Who Bash Obama"

http://www.vosizneias.com/97152

Also interesting is that the article states:

R’ Teitelbaum was among over 1600 people who were transported out of Hungary by train due to the efforts of Rudolf Kastner

I'm surprised that any Haredi vehicle would acknowledge this publicly.

Now we need Deremes to weigh in with his cry of "Lies! Lies!"

One person in particular (who posts here from time to time) expressed the post election thought that he still didn't trust Obama - that he voted for Romney (as instructed), but is not at all unhappy with the results. His one pain point is the belief (not shared by enough of his friends) that public assistance will lead to the destruction of Haredi Judaism, and that they as a group need to be more self reliant.

He tells you that, but meanwhile, he did as he was told.

I almost wish they had won, if only to see the looks on their faces as Ryan began dismantling (or attempting to dismantle, at any rate) the social service network upon which they've become completely reliant. How would they rationalize it? Could they even conceptualize the fact that their rabbis had lied to them? I don't think so.

this is bad news to libs who feel that jews and blacks should be a one party (Democrat) state.

Posted by: gopjew | November 25, 2012 at 04:46 AM

Yeah... it isn't "bad news", SJ. When non-Orthodox Jews have opinions about which party embodies what they think of as Jewish values, Haredim don't enter into the picture.

Those of us who are glad Obama won really don't give a damn about the political opinions of Haredim. As WSC said above, "The frumma vote is meaningless outside of NY politics."

You'll have to find something else to use to bash liberals. Should take you all of about ten seconds.

++poorer, very religious Jews++

Rocky, they aren't poor, it's all a facade to cover their cash income.

Their NY political power is probably based more on campaign contributions with bundling than the actual number of votes the frumma can deliver, certainly on a state level.

Look at the deal Hillary got for those Skverer crooks that Bill pardoned. She won the senate race by 800,000 votes. Skver delivered less than 20,000 votes. She must have gotten a war chest of money from the Skverer Mafia Rebbe.

Same thing with Andrew Cuomo. Did he really need the haredi vote? No. There is no doubt he received a fortune from them in bundled contributions.

Jeff, the late Satmar Rebbe (Yoel) was rescued by Kasztner, not the current one. According to the documentary (highly recommended) Killing Kasztner, the Rebbe refused to testify on Kasztner's behalf during the trial in Israel, claiming the G-d rescued him, not Kasztner, as if both could not be possible.

Jeff, the late Satmar Rebbe (Yoel) was rescued by Kasztner, not the current one. According to the documentary (highly recommended) Killing Kasztner, the Rebbe refused to testify on Kasztner's behalf during the trial in Israel, claiming the G-d rescued him, not Kasztner, as if both could not be possible.


Right, Shmarya has mentioned it here many times (although I wasn't aware of the documentary). Whenever he does, one of the Satmar trolls, usually Deremes, starts barking about what a pack of lies it is. Then he launches into a tirade about how the evil Zionist regime could have saved Jews but instead used the Holocaust to garner sympathy for the idea of a Jewish state. It's all the propaganda they feed them in the Satmar "educational" system. It's an excellent illustration of the reason the state should be involved and these "schools" shouldn't be allowed to exist.

yes dj, and it was stupid people that led us to this predicament,starting mainly with that horrid Ted Kennedy and his 1965 sponsored legislation.

What is so surprising?

A community that tax dodges votes for a candidate that tax dodges.

Posted by: zionist goy | November 25, 2012 at 07:30 PM

So you consider legislation that replaced a geographic immigration quota system with one that focused on skills and family support to be a problem.?

The landmark 65' legislation, with its chief architects argued that U.s. demographics would not be significantly altered by its enactment, yeah, right. Republicrats have been almost as guily and compliant; Ronnie Reagan did his part in 87' and later complained it was the biggest mistake of his presidency. Eisenhower was the last president with big ones and people don't read recent history enough to realize what he did and that it could be done again.We are effectively a one party state in which Republicans (of which i'm not) will be perennial back benchers. Conservative voters need a third party with a candidate who is just as radical as Obama. That would be sweet.

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