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November 12, 2012

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Lord Ridelle

A fascinating hypothesis. Something for the anthropologists and historians in the cultural materialism camp to ponder over.

If I may suggest a narrower focus study which might yield interesting results. A look at events in pre-WWII Poland might prove quite productive, seeing how we have a plentitude of documentary materials from a wide variety of sources. The growth of yeshivas and the Musar movement, the emergence of mendicant students and scholars amongst an impoverished population which was being pressured to support economically non-productive individuals and institutions created some powerful reactions. Within a generation, secularism emerged among Jews and manifested itself in the appearance of a variety of socialist and Zionist circles. Was this a generic response to modernity? A philosophical reaction to religious obscurantism? An impious rejection of Torah and tradition as the Haredi still insist? Or was it simply a limited and desperate attempt by a financially strained population facing narrowing opportunities in a hostile environment to escape an expensive educational system with an ever-growing bureaucratic elite which no longer served a positive economic role, but became a millstone around the neck of of the people?

Inquiring minds want to know, what?

Hia5

Actually, Hasidism began as a revolt against the notion that in order to be a good Jew you had to be a talmud chochem. It was a movement for the simple, uneducated (in Talmud; almost all Eastern European Jews were literate in Yiddish) proster yid.

Yochanan Lavie

Literacy is an inherent good, but then as now Judaism should make room for those who don't fit the mold.

More people would provide a Jewish education, IMO, if it was affordable. In the past, afternoon Talmud Torahs would provide a yeshiva-style education while secular subjects were studied in public school. Even the very religious did this. I am sure a Talmud Torah is cheaper than a Day School. This idea should be revived. For high school students, an affiliation with a local community college could give the students an Associate's Degree in Judaic Studies for their efforts, which would help them get into a 4 year college, even if all the credits don't transfer. It is still enrichment to graduate high school with both a HS diploma and an AA.

Observer

Focusing on literacy definitely helps the rabbis keep their jobs.

Bill Ginnosar

When most of the world was illiterate, most of the Jews where literate.That probably gave the Jews an edge over the rest.
But now most of the world is also literate.
That edge has vanished.

Avi Rosenthal

Seems to me it's more like Darwinian selection for intelligence.

The Anti-Schmerl

Stephen Hawking, make
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Stephen Hawking does not make any typos. His communication system may do so, but if you had one ounce of decency or sensitivity, you would not have used him as an example of anything.

Someone made a typo in your DNA, Shmarya. We are bayshanim, rachmanim vegoimlei chasadim. I guess you inherited that fine Gleckstein DNA without the talent to make money as your illustrious grandfather had.

Torvald

Just goes to show you how timing is everything. Today those same uneducated illiterate shit-for-brains would be doing quite well selling adsense on their blogs.

ca

It's very annoying when people attack based on typos, grammar and spelling instead of discussing the issues.

Shmarya

Yes, but you still feel embarrassed enough to have edited it!!

Posted by: Brian | November 12, 2012 at 04:50 PM

Moron.

I feel responsible enough to correct it.

Brian


Has The Jewish Emphasis On Lteracy

Oh, the irony.

Posted by: Brian | November 12, 2012 at 04:05 PM


Idiot.

Being stupid enough to confuse a typo – which everyone, including Einstein and Stephen Hawking, make – with illiteracy simply reveals how biased and confused you are.

Posted by: Shmarya | November 12, 2012 at 04:12 PM


Yes, but you still feel embarrassed enough to have edited it!!

jancsibacsi

Paula-On the other hand much not to be proud of, our belonved bozos the hassidim who dont want to be educated for todays world, and many of them walk around like they are from a time warp going back to the stone age.

Shmarya

Has The Jewish Emphasis On Lteracy

Oh, the irony.

Posted by: Brian | November 12, 2012 at 04:05 PM

Idiot.

Being stupid enough to confuse a typo – which everyone, including Einstein and Stephen Hawking, make – with illiteracy simply reveals how biased and confused you are.

Brian

Has The Jewish Emphasis On Lteracy

Oh, the irony.

Paula

Has The Jewish Emphasis On Lteracy Been Good For The Jews?

B"H all in all the Jews have done quite well. Not everyone is an Einstein, but as a whole we have much to be proud of.

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