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November 13, 2012


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Thanks all, but I'm just a duffer compared to Yochanan Lavie. His ideas, rhymes and use of Hebrew and Yiddish are great. Plus, he's really fast.

Steven W

Makes perfect sense. In order to supervise, one must have some knowledge of halacha. If a woman has knowledge of halacha, she may say something about it contrary to what a man says. And that of course, could lead to mixed dancing.

Eli, what me messiah?

"Women, get out of the kitchen – if you’re being paid, that is."



Let me get this right. Employing a woman is not "modest" but molesting a child is OK?

Yerachmiel Lopin

Sarek, awesome. Now do a version of R E S P E C T.


Speaking of competition: YL - better watch it; Sarek's moving in on your turf.

Yosef ben Matitya

What's next, black=white, night=day, 1=2, yes=no?

:-) these guys are straight from orwell's (kosher) animal farm

Yosef ben Matitya

hmmm, if a woman's place is in the kitchen, what are frum male mashgiach's doing there? is that tzniusdik!

Yochanan Lavie

Sarek: Good one.


Lol Sarek


Posted by: Max Rapaport | November 13, 2012 at 03:49 PM

This is very true. Now square that theory (raise it to the power of 2), because every job industry in Israel is a raquet controlled by those who have it, and there is no entry for outsiders. That's what this is really about. (not to detract from the reasons re: this industry, as stated by Max).


("I am Woman", Helen Reddy)

I am woman, make me cook.
But just be sure that men don't look.
And of course we cannot be the mishgiach.
Don't let us read a prayer book.
Because the rabbinate's a schnook.
We must never question the great patriarchs.

Oh yes we are wise.
We know they keep our women down.
Their control's built on lies.
But they have great renown.
If they have to, they'll excommunicate.
They are strong.
They are infallible.
They are rabbis.


So they feel that women's place is in the kitchen, but it's not women's place to make sure the proper food is in the kitchen.

Talmudic logic strikes again!

What's next, black=white, night=day, 1=2, yes=no?

Max Rapaport

There is a very good reason for this, and it has nothing to do with Halacha. Unlike Charedi women, most Charedi men in Israel receive so substandard a secular education that they are virtually cut off from most fields, making Kashrut inspection one of the few areas of viable employment (along with Shechita, safrus, etc.). Allowing women into the field, creates difficulties of competition, and, within this society, it may even be better that women choose other vocations as they have greater options. Not that this is a good situation, but, unless male charedi education in Israel receives a massive overhaul, the emasculation that comes from extremely limited career options is bound to continue and worsen.

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