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November 06, 2012

Chabad Racism?

Chabad dot org purify the air closeupA Chabad.org graphic promoting a teaching of the 6th Lubavitcher Rebbe, Yosef Yitzchok Schneersohn, is, according to some who have seen it, arguably racist. Here's why.


The graphic and the teaching:

Chabad dot org purify the air closeup
Chabad dot org purify the air

Some people have looked at the graphic and the the teaching that accompanies it, which Chabad.org posted on Facebook, and have seen a lone Jewish woman studying a Jewish religious text in a subway car otherwise populated only by African Americans, and understood the teaching and graphic to mean that African Americans are impure, and that their speech and their thoughts make the air – the atmosphere – in that subway car impure. The remedy for that, Chabad seems to be saying, is the Jewish woman's Torah.

If the other passengers on the subway had been a mixture of ethnicities, the teaching would be somewhat less offensive, because it would be implying that all non-Jews, rather than just African Americans, cause spiritual impurity.

But even that is offensive.

The idea that non-Jews cause impurity is itself offensive.

Ah! But Chabad will respond that the "air" of the Land of Israel is pure because the Land is holy, but the "air" everywhere else is impure because the entire earth outside of the Land of Israel is not holy (and by definition impure).

But that is really no different than saying that non-Jews are impure or that they cause impurity.

Chabad hasidut contains some extremely bigoted anti-gentile teachings. (For example, non-Jews' souls have "no good in them at all," according to Schneur Zalman of Lyadi, the first Chabad rebbe who is commonly known as the Alter Rebbe or the Ba'al HaTanya.)

But what Chabad has done here, intentionally or not, is to make the focus even narrower. It is African Americans who are "impure," and it is their "air" that needs to be "purified" by the Jews and for the Jews.

This may be accidental racism, but it is racism nonetheless.

[Hat Tip: DovBear.]

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say whaaat? are you seriously in self-sabotage mode now? i mean, way to demonstrate total and utter closed-mindedness and hatred induced rage to the point of self-destruction.

this is perhaps one of the most pathetic posts i have seen on this site.

get a grip!

First of all, she is clearly a person of color. She might or might not be Jewish. She's not dressed in a skirt or anything. What makes you think she is Jewish based on this picture?

Second of all, the teaching doesn't say that only a Jew can purify the air. Where does it say that?

Dont agree.
Any person Jew or Non Jew, can study Torah and purify the air.

What I dont like, is, when they go over to a Shabbos Goy and ask, was your mother Jewish?. Or when the Chabad tanks go over to any guy on the street with a Lulav, was your mother Jewish?

Does God throw away anyone whom he gave a Goyishe mother?

And eve if she is in a skirt, nonJews wear skirts too!


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There may be something to what you say. I looked at the pic for a long time, imagining a woman wearing hajib reading the Koran (which "purifies the air") with three Hasidic Jews sitting in the background...

Apparently you have never taken the 3 in Brooklyn.

The woman is Jewish?

Chabad would never use as an example a woman in tights.

I'm calling BS on this one.

THE girl herself looks black or at least sephardic. and when you go to crown heights and step on a train most people are black. I take offense that the girl herself is dark skin. and she is kinda cute.

shmarya---you are ridiculolus on this.

While I don't see anything "racist" in YY Schneersohn's statement, it is obvious that YY Schneersohn had absolutely nothing whatsoever of value to teach. The statement quoted above from him is something that absolutely anyone with a 5th grade Jewish education would come up with.

Much ado about nothing, no thanks to DovBear who initiated this nonsense.

Kol haposel b'mumo posul.
You're totally overcalling this one. The point of the picture is that a Jew spends his free time studying Torah and therefore earning reward in Olam Haba while the non-Jew just stares into space like those kids in the picture.
It's not about skin colour - the girl has the same skin tone as the boys!

First off - she IS wearing a skirt - knee length and with opaque tights. Secondly - her skin may not be eastern-european "dead fish" white, but its not the same tone as the boys in the picture - its far lighter. I think that its not overtly racist - its the kind of subtle racism that self-congratulatory "some of my best friends are black/hispanic/asian" types often exhibit or that deeply racist people who want to appear non-racist attempt to use. Its more dangerous in its subtlety because its easier to write off but reinforces stereotypes and preconceived biases, insidiously.

Just some background on the original picture:

http://www.hartfordillustration.com/news/2012/1/27/chava-lights-class-of-2011-subway-prayer-may-reach-wider-aud.html
http://chavastudios.com/chassidim-of-color-art-show/
http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=16748&alias=chassidim-of-color-on-kingston

When I read it was from a show called "chassidim of color", I thought it was possibly a very much not racist attempt at portraying a minority inside a minority. But I was too optimistic the color just means that its not black and white and its art, so back to square one one that.

Groucho famously said, "I've had a lovely evening. But this wasn't it."

There is ample room to talk about Chabad racism in general. But this isn't it. The complaint has the same validity as saying that Chicago is a racist "dog whistle", i.e. not much.

The others on the train are not prominent in the picture or caricatured with ugly features or expressions. There is no attempt to juxtapose the people in the scene with the subject woman. It is a very nice serene scene in fact, focused on the Jew, not the others. The point itself of "purifying the air" is not racial in any way. The subways stink no matter who is there. I'd also guess that the painting and the wording were not born or conceived together.

In the last sentence, I am going on a limb and saying that the reason that all of the other people in the background are black is because that was who was on the train that day. The artist probably sat in the car and merely captured the subject and scene. Pretty talented work, too.

Slow news day, Shmarya? There is this election going on . . .

…Second of all, the teaching doesn't say that only a Jew can purify the air. Where does it say that?

Posted by: M | November 06, 2012 at 08:38 AM

An "impure" soul can't "purify" anything, just like impure animals can't be sacrificed in the Temple and burned to God.

Chabad also views non-Jews as having souls that "have no good in them at all," which also precludes the ability to "purify."


You simply are ignorant of Chabad theology or you're lying.

The woman is Jewish?

Chabad would never use as an example a woman in tights.

I'm calling BS on this one.

Posted by: FM Fan | November 06, 2012 at 08:59 AM

A. She's clearly wearing a skirt.

B. The book is a siddur open to Shema. (Enlarge it to see for yourself.)

C. The woman's hands are much lighter than her face. Her face is slightly dark because of the lighting and shadows. When you enlarge the picture, her skin tone looks like the skin tone of tens of thousands of Sefardi (and a lesser number of Ashkenazi) women.

Why is she standing, when there are so many empty seats? The picture would be more compelling if the train was crowded.

"…Second of all, the teaching doesn't say that only a Jew can purify the air. Where does it say that?

Posted by: M | November 06, 2012 at 08:38 AM

An "impure" soul can't "purify" anything, just like impure animals can't be sacrificed in the Temple and burned to God.

Chabad also views non-Jews as having souls that "have no good in them at all," which also precludes the ability to "purify."


You simply are ignorant of Chabad theology or you're lying.

Posted by: Shmarya | November 06, 2012 at 09:55 AM"

It's apparent from the commentary in the "Lessons in Tanya" (at the end of chapter 1 of Likutei Amarim http://www.chabad.org/library/tanya/tanya_cdo/aid/7880/jewish/Chapter-1.htm#footnoteRef33a7880 ) and from the Rebbe's letter on the subject: http://www.sichosinenglish.org/books/letters-rebbe-1/53.htm that #1 there are pure souls among the gentiles too. #2 In time of Moshiach and redemption all nations are purified from whatever impurity they had. (Links to both of these sources have been posted here in comments many times yet Shmarya like the authors of other antisemitic web-sites pretends they don't exist when he spouts his garbage about this subject)
The impurity of the soul is not inherent in it, it can be removed thru studying Torah, renouncing idol-worship and accepting 7 Noahide laws as many among the nations have been doing last few decades in particular: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qOz9iNgb20&noredirect=1

The girl looks dark, which may imply the girl's mom or dad maybe black.

There are more African American in Chabad then the reform or conservative dying movements.

Shmar--
Your remarks are always a calumny against someone or something Jewish.
What you do not realize about your theory of "racism" is that anyone can convert and in doing so" can acquire a "pure" neshoma.
If we were "racists" we could not have conversion from an immutably "impure" state-- get it?
BTW, in the future, even the pig--no less-- will be kosher/pure.

A Yid--
Yaasher koach, and keep up the good work.
"A little bit of light pushes away a lot of darkness".
It has been difficult to be by my lonesome on this site for so long.

Apologies to Petula Clark (Don't sleep in the subway):

You learn all around
In a "schvartze" crowd
Where you don't see the guy
named Schneersohn.

Oy, walking is free
From the subways you flee
'Cause the reason is there to sneer, son.

I've heard it all since the days of yore.
Take off your coat,check the mezuzah on the door.

Chorus:
Don't learn in the subway, darlin'.
Don't sneeze when you're pouring chrayn.
Don't learn in the subway, darlin'.
The air is strong.
Belay your Jewish pride.
A goyische throng,
So go to Beis Medrish again.

You try to be smart
then you take it apart
The sugya must be debated.
um-m-um-um-um-um
You don't realize
that you can't compromise
and the Rebbe must be placated.

The Torah means nothing if it ain't just for Jews
So why pretend Goyim are human too?

Chorus.

Oy, oy, oy.

Chorus.

Oy, oy, oy, oy, oy,
(repeat chorus and fade out

SERIOUS question and an honest answer please:

Lets say that it is so that the talmud in general and chabad in particular teaches racism,has any non-Jew been killed by Jews as a result?
Does this justify non-Jews to hate Jews to such an extent as to killing us in the millions in the last two thousand years?
Does anyone really think the average goy who hates Jews is a result of these teachings?doesn't it make sense they hate Jews becuase secular Jews stick their noses all over such as the oval office,congress,senate,bankers?wherever you go you will hear that everything is the Jews fault,do they mean the teachings or the nose sticking?
Lets see if i can get an honest answer without any insult.

Here's a statement from the artist:

As the actual artist who created this image, I'm really happy that most people seem to see the positivity intended with this image: the idea of an independent Jewish woman - dressed stylishly, with hobbies and interests (plays guitar, dances), who is also confident and self-assured - and is proud to be an observant, religious woman praying on the subway.

I am saddened there are some who seem to see something negative in this image. The image itself was compiled of many reference photos, and the people in the image were actually there - and were aware photos were being taken and were fun to work with. I wish people would see the positivity in people of different backgrounds sharing a ride and an experience together.

I would also have felt uncomfortable and dishonest changing someone's race in this image (or any image). I would have felt that was a disservice to the people who were in the train at the time this photo was taken.

The painting itself is part of a series I did on modern Jewish identity called "This Is A Part of Me" - and was comprised of submissions by the actual models used in my paintings. They each relayed an experience of their own regarding melding Jewish tradition and contemporary life - and we turned that story into a painting to share with the world.

The experience this model (who happens to be my sister) relayed was her personal experience of praying during her daily commute, the reactions she gets, as well as wondering how she is perceived - whether people see her as an "unapproachable religious person," as someone with her varied interests and talents (dance, music, theater), or something else.

Good or bad, I am happy to see the image promoting discussion. But know that there was no negativity intended with this image - and neither I nor chabad.org would ever create something that would be disrespectful of anyone from a different background. Everyone was intended in a positive light.

I hope people can see the positivity - and share the spirit of being proud of who we all are - and learning torah in public places! :)

Anyone who takes the 3 train knows there are many black women reading the Bible too. And often times black men loudly preach the Word of God, purifying the air, with more enthusiasm than any follower of the son-in --law of the Pope of the Protestants who failed to mention the Holocaust in his letter to President Roosevelt. Join me and vote for the "Air Defiler"

Shmarya,
"Ah! But Chabad will respond that the "air" of the Land of Israel is pure because the Land is holy, but the "air" everywhere else is impure because the entire earth outside of the Land of Israel is not holy (and by definition impure)
But that is really no different than saying that non-Jews are impure or that they cause impurity."
Chabad would respond that the people have nothing to do with the purity of the air. Therefore, in Israel, even assuming there was a city without a single Jew, the air would still be pure. And in a fully Jewish city in the US, you would still be able to purify the air according to Chabad.
Why you (intentionally) miss that is in line with the general Southward turn your journalism and blog are taking.
And like you like to say, you're either intentionally lying or you're very stupid.
Now toddle off, little man.

Fleishike Kishke--
The Word of G-d exists only in the Tanach of the Jews and nowhere else despite what others preach from their book with enthusiasm.
I will vote for the "purifier".

Wow, I thought she was Puerto Rican. I thought the "Jew" reciting words of Torah was an implied character. I'm surprized they didn't blur her face out! She ranks 5 or higher for sure, and that's usually basis for censorship.

Shmarya,
"Ah! But Chabad will respond that the "air" of the Land of Israel is pure because the Land is holy, but the "air" everywhere else is impure because the entire earth outside of the Land of Israel is not holy (and by definition impure)
But that is really no different than saying that non-Jews are impure or that they cause impurity."
Chabad would respond that the people have nothing to do with the purity of the air. Therefore, in Israel, even assuming there was a city without a single Jew, the air would still be pure. And in a fully Jewish city in the US, you would still be able to purify the air according to Chabad.
Why you (intentionally) miss that is in line with the general Southward turn your journalism and blog are taking.
And like you like to say, you're either intentionally lying or you're very stupid.
Now toddle off, little man.

Posted by: Mkblitz | November 06, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Please.

You're the one who is misstating the theology, most likely on purpose.

Why are countries without any Jews impure?

Why is it that the purification of the air – which the late 7th rebbe said was an actual physical occurrence – necessary? Why is it that only Torah can purify it and only Jews are given the Torah?

As is the case with other Chabad teachings, Chabad rebbes took existing Jewish ideas – in this case, two ideas: 1. That saying words of Torah has a spiritually purifying effect and, 2. That all countries except the Land of Israel are spiritually impure, and combined them – and made them something new.

So the air of the world outside of Israel needs to be purified. Not doing so negatively impacts the physical and spiritual health of its population. Jews perform this ritual by reciting words of Torah wherever they are and at all times.

What began as a way to designate the Land of Israel as the Holy Land (as opposed to simply Jerusalem as the holy city) morphed into an anti-gentile idea that saw gentile lands as inherently impure, and the air that surrounded them as impure. And then Chabad took that, added to it the idea that recited words of Torah purify, and then made that purification into an actual physical thing, elevating the air, so to speak, from the gentile environment to Jewish.

That's what this teaching is whether you process it or not, whether you want people to know it or not.

“…in a subway car otherwise populated only by African Americans…”

Shmarya, I have not read the entire article, but honestly, when was the last time you were in New York???

Times have long changed! The subway is used by EVERYONE. It has long changed from the days you remember. Come visit New York again :)

“…in a subway car otherwise populated only by African Americans…”

Shmarya, I have not read the entire article, but honestly, when was the last time you were in New York???

Times have long changed! The subway is used by EVERYONE. It has long changed from the days you remember. Come visit New York again :)

Posted by: shosh | November 06, 2012 at 02:06 PM

Um, look at the painting, Shosh. You don't have to read.

Assuming that the artist is accurate when she says she painted from a photo of a real life scene , I should add that there is nothing inherently wrong or racist in the painting itself. (In fact, I like the artist's work very much.)

It is the combination of that image with that particular bigoted Chabad teaching that is problematic.

The artist's sister may have been following that teaching for completely pure reasons, or she may just have been davening on the train because she ran late and didn't have time to do it at home.

But when you take that bigoted teaching and combine it with that image and use them together as something other than a brief snapshot of a moment of New York City and hasidic life, you run into problems – especially when the image is used globally to promote the teaching.

The impurity of the soul is not inherent in it, it can be removed thru studying Torah, renouncing idol-worship and accepting 7 Noahide laws as many among the nations have been doing last few decades in particular.

This is worse than racism, now you are saying that only the religious can be saved. This is disgraceful.

Fleishike Kishke--
The Word of G-d exists only in the Tanach of the Jews and nowhere else despite what others preach from their book with enthusiasm.
I will vote for the "purifier".


This is disgraceful religious supremacism. Shame on you.

“…in a subway car otherwise populated only by African Americans…”

Shmarya, I have not read the entire article, but honestly, when was the last time you were in New York???

Times have long changed! The subway is used by EVERYONE. It has long changed from the days you remember. Come visit New York again.

I suppose there isn't an answer to my earlier questions of 12:01pm.It seems like it is ok for gentiles to KILL Jews but it is not ok for Jews to THINK bad of gentiles.Nice to know.

when you the take the 3 or 4 to Crown Heights after Franklin is mostly Chabbad and African-Americans and very very few hipsters and one Lesbian couple.

The impurity of the soul is not inherent in it, it can be removed thru studying Torah, renouncing idol-worship and accepting 7 Noahide laws as many among the nations have been doing last few decades in particular.

Brell comments:

This is worse than racism, now you are saying that only the religious can be saved. This is disgraceful.

Posted by: Brel1 | November 06, 2012 at 02:31 PM

I don't understand how you can make such assertion. Please elaborate.

The Word of G-d exists only in the Tanach of the Jews and nowhere else despite what others preach from their book with enthusiasm.
I will vote for the "purifier".

Brell comments:

This is disgraceful religious supremacism. Shame on you.
Posted by: Brel1 | November 06, 2012 at 02:33 PM

In the same way one can assert that
Your comment itself is an example of bigotry and intolerance towards the sincerely held sacred religious beliefs of others. You should be ashamed of yourself. :-)

I suppose there isn't an answer to my earlier questions of 12:01pm.It seems like it is ok for gentiles to KILL Jews but it is not ok for Jews to THINK bad of gentiles.Nice to know.

Posted by: Deremes | November 06, 2012 at 02:53 PM

Your idiocy never ceases, does it?

Process: It's wrong to kill or injure Jews because they are Jews, and it's wrong to do the same to Gentiles because they are Gentiles.

It's wrong for Gentiles to view Jews as dirty or tainted, and it's wrong for Jews to view Gentiles as dirty or tainted.

A mentally healthy adult (or older child) doesn't need to be told this.

Unfortunately, many haredim – you included – seem to need lots of education regarding this.

“…in a subway car otherwise populated only by African Americans…”

Shmarya, I have not read the entire article, but honestly, when was the last time you were in New York???

Times have long changed! The subway is used by EVERYONE. It has long changed from the days you remember. Come visit New York again.

Posted by: shosh | November 06, 2012 at 02:47 PM

I'll try this one more time: LOOK AT THE PAINTING.

Posted by: A Yid | November 06, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Please.

Your lies are disgusting.

What the rebbe is talking about are very RARE non-Jewish souls, a TINY number of people, not the majority or even a sizable minority – a small handful.

That's what Chabad teaches, despite your lies.

Shmarya,

Is it too difficult for you to answer someone who disagrees with you without becoming coarse and rude?
"דִבְרֵי חַכָמִים בְּנַחַת נִשְמָעִים"

Your lies are disgusting.

What the rebbe is talking about are very RARE non-Jewish souls, a TINY number of people, not the majority or even a sizable minority – a small handful.

That's what Chabad teaches, despite your lies
Shmar-- do you also decry how we are the smallest of the nations-- and also therefore to Hashem the most precious.
Rarity= preciousness get it?

Chabad hasidut contains some extremely bigoted anti-gentile teachings. (For example, non-Jews' souls have "no good in them at all," according to Schneur Zalman of Lyadi, the first Chabad rebbe who is commonly known as the Alter Rebbe or the Ba'al HaTanya.)

I don't know if this graphic is an expression of this tenet or not. Definitely maybe. Quite possibly. But it's not damning.

That said, it's absolutely 100% true that run-of-the-mill Chabad "rabbis" use this teaching as a way of demonizing goyim, seculars, and converts. Yes, they do. This is why Chabad is pure racial supremacy in every sense of the word. They treat their children like a horse breeder, it's all about the blood to them.

Which explains why they drink baby dick blood at the bris. But I digress...

…Shmar-- do you also decry how we are the smallest of the nations-- and also therefore to Hashem the most precious.
Rarity= preciousness get it?

Posted by: mendel | November 06, 2012 at 05:26 PM

Idiot.

In your twisted, sick and decidedly undersized and under endowed mind, the claim that five or ten non-Jews in the entire world might have "pure" souls while all the others have "impure" souls means that Jews purifying the impure air is not inherently a bigoted concept, kid of the way racists and antisemites sometimes say that some of their best friends are African American or Jewish as they espouse policies and spew hatred against the vast majority of Blacks or Jews.

You belong in a mental hospital.

There you go again!

Shmar--
Do you also have a problem with the one and only righteous gentile, the Tsadik of his generation who put everyone else to shame in their impure opposition to G-d.
They were drowned in the mabel and he was saved with his family.
How unjust, right Shmar?

Shmar--
Do you also have a problem with the one and only righteous gentile, the Tsadik of his generation who put everyone else to shame in their impure opposition to G-d.

No, dumbfuck. He was a pig and you're an idolater. Go back to your shtetl and wait to die, ok?

Posted by: A Yid | November 06, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Please.

Your lies are disgusting.

What the rebbe is talking about are very RARE non-Jewish souls, a TINY number of people, not the majority or even a sizable minority – a small handful.

That's what Chabad teaches, despite your lies.

Posted by: Shmarya | November 06, 2012 at 04:45 PM


Find me a source in the Chabad teachings that chassidei umot haoilam - pious among the nations are a "tiny number" of people.
That doesn't sound right in view of other Chabad teachings I have learned on this subject.

Posted by: A Yid | November 06, 2012 at 09:11 PM

One source?!?!?

Are you really this stupid?

The context in which hasidei umot ha'olam are mentioned LIMITS them to a very tiny minority.

Over and over and over again you keep proving how dishonest you are and poorly you learn and have been taught.

Idiot.

Shmarya now uses political correctness as a tool. Guess what? There are more minorities than white on the subway in New york on any given day.

Shmarya, I don't see them from that context.
It is possible to say from the context in Tanya that they are a minority, or that they are a majority ruled by the evil rulers.It is not explicit there.

A shoteh gamur.

Your teachers should be fired.

Do you have any idea what the definition of hasidei umot ha'olam is?!?!?

Or are you really as stupid as you seem?


Hey, excuse me but chabad doesn't have the "RIGHTS" to learning in public.
I stood in line waiting to vote yesterday and all the people that were religious around me - not chabad and many of them had s'forim out and were learning.
Tnayim, Gaonim, Amarayim and etc would walk and learn and speak words of Torah as they went about their daily life. To elevate the world in general, and to not waste time away from learning Torah.
There are enough people out there ringing the " libel" bell out there and promoting hatred towards Jews, and reving up the antisemitic fever isn't necessary.

Chabad may ask if someone's grandmother etc is Jewish but, you won't catch them trying to CONVERT non Jews to Judaism like the non Jews insist on doing, nor have I heard of Jews forceably stealing non- jews to convert them against their will, like the germans, spanish, arabs,the catholic church and todays J-witnesses etc. have been doing for hundreds if not thousands of years.
This article was not necessary.
You can do better than this.
Come on!

I think we can hold these truths to be self evident.

Chabad theology (and Judaism in general) was created before racism or anti-non-Jewism was considered negative.

The statement quoted from the Chabad Rebbeim, when analyzed with today's U.S. attitudes and experiences, seems inappropriate and in need of modern revision. (Much as the statements of many in the US past, abolitionists included, would need)

The person who created the painting had no racial intent, and did not create the painting with the caption in mind.

The person who posted the painting with the caption had no particular racial intent.

Shmarya's original complaint was that INTENDED OR NOT it displays a anti-non-Jewist attitude. He then added that everyone was black in the painting and that was suspect, but I think we have beat that horse to death. That is just who happened to be there that day and the artist did not have the caption in mind when creating the artwork. I would submit that it is the same issue as the first point, that the theology, when analyzed under modern US attitudes and experiences seems inappropriate and in need of revision.

"A shoteh gamur.

Your teachers should be fired.

Do you have any idea what the definition of hasidei umot ha'olam is?!?!?

Or are you really as stupid as you seem?

Posted by: Shmarya | November 07, 2012 at 12:27 AM"

It is easier insult than to answer questions. It hides the your own shtus and ahm-aratzus

Posted by: A Yid | November 07, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Please.

You don't know and you can't answer.

Idiot.

The impurity of the soul is not inherent in it, it can be removed thru studying Torah, renouncing idol-worship and accepting 7 Noahide laws as many among the nations have been doing last few decades in particular.

Brell comments:

This is worse than racism, now you are saying that only the religious can be saved. This is disgraceful.

Posted by: Brel1 | November 06, 2012 at 02:31 PM

I don't understand how you can make such assertion. Please elaborate.

It really is quite simple. The 7 so called laws of Noah are religious laws. An atheist can not fulfil them.

The Word of G-d exists only in the Tanach of the Jews and nowhere else despite what others preach from their book with enthusiasm.
I will vote for the "purifier".

Brell comments:

This is disgraceful religious supremacism. Shame on you.
Posted by: Brel1 | November 06, 2012 at 02:33 PM

In the same way one can assert that
Your comment itself is an example of bigotry and intolerance towards the sincerely held sacred religious beliefs of others. You should be ashamed of yourself. :-)


Just because a view is sincerely held does not stop it being supremacist and immoral. It is wrong not to condemn such evil views as those stated in the Tanya.

Interesting topic.

My problem with the Chabad ideology is how the movement refuses to accept Ethiopian Jews in their yeshivas--even if they have the most Haredi conversion!

In addition, they tell Jews whose parents either converted to Conservative Judaism, or, Reform Judaism as "gentiles." In Latin American countries, they will not even allow a perspective convert attend their services--even if the convert happens to be studying toward an Orthodox conversion. They urge these folks to consider calling themselves, "B'nai Noach," and tell them how luck they are since they do not have to observe Shabbat or Kashrut.

I say this from direct experience with some of my synagogue members who have been disenfranchised from the Jewish people.

Chabad's theology is at the epicenter of their practical day-to-day behavior. The Rebbe made a dreadful mistake with the "Who is a Jew?" issue that has caused nothing but torment to the Jewish people as a whole, and this ideology has harmed countless individual righteous converts and their families.

A Yid, keep it up! Shmarya can only respond with generalizations and insults.

his ideology has harmed countless individual rtghteous converts and their families.
It/ becomes necessary to break some eggs in order to make an omelet.
Shlamus ha am permits the continuation of endogamy.

"C. The woman's hands are much lighter than her face. Her face is slightly dark because of the lighting and shadows. When you enlarge the picture, her skin tone looks like the skin tone of tens of thousands of Sefardi (and a lesser number of Ashkenazi) women.

Posted by: Shmarya | November 06, 2012 at 10:01 AM"

Well Shmarya, I enlarged the picture like you said, and I even took a magnifying glass and color wheel, and WOW you're right - this woman is CLEARLY A sefardi Jewess. And therefore Chabad is raist and evil. How did I and so many others miss it the first time? :rolleyes:

wow who writes this crap? seriously, you just looking to hate right?

Get out of your basement, get over Chabad, and lead normal life. get married you fat bastard.

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