Beit Shemesh Mehadrin Bus Rules

New rules from haredi modesty police tell haredim how they must behave while riding on Israel’s publicly funded gender segregated mehadrin buses. Monitors from the haredi modesty police will now be on the buses monitoring conduct. No iPhones or smartphones are allowed, and women are not allowed to converse loudly.

Comments

[Jack]

How long of a bus ride are we talking about. I did not get the impression that Beit Shemesh was a rather small town.

[SkepticalYid]

More specifically, it says that women should not speak loudly enough for men to hear them, particularly when they're using the telephone, because it's not b'tzniut for men to hear their voices.

[None]

Wow! It says in letter gimmel that we should show respect for the non-frum drivers and not to argue with them, which makes a kiddush hashem.

[dnc]

please translate the whole thing.

[Korben Dallas]

Get a dozen secular women to ride in the back of the bus on the longest route and have them sing Hatikvah the whole ride.

Fuck these pigs.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Change the name of that town to Beit Shimosh.

[Shin]

Guidelines and Decrees of 'Chizuk' for riders of the Mehadrin lines here in our city of Bet Shemesh [not 100% how to properly convery 'chizuk']

We have merited to reinforce the boundaries of holiness here in our city, especially in regard to traveling properly and according to Halacha.
However, [can't make out the next few words] the obligation is on us especially to reinforce these rules, therefore the rabbis of our city have decided to publicize these decrees and guidelines as follows:

Usage of technological devices of any type, such as an iPhone or similar, is under the [biblical] law of 'It should not be found or seen' [this is a reference to leaven on passover] especially while travelling [on the bus]
It is within the boundaries of modesty that the conversation of women on the bus should be in a low voice. All the moreso laughter and light-headedness, which destroy the boundaries of modesty in a terrifying way [should not occur], and a great responsibility [is on women] that they should not be heard by strange men, especially while speaking on a cell phone, and therefore they should be very careful to behave with modesty when the attendants[?] are waiting[?] on the bus. [ed. I'm very unsure about that last phrase, but its the best I can make of it]
It is our duty as Jews who keep the Torah and Mitzvos to refrain from excessive arguments with the drivers. Much the opposite, we should behave with respect towards them, as our sages have said that this matter is counted as sanctifying God's name
Stopping the bus for personal needs is considered theft from the public an sins between man and his fellow are not atoned for by Yom Kippur until he appeases his fellow

(Small print) And in the merit of the establishment and strengthening in the ways of God, we will merit to hear a great report from on high and we will merit to be written and signed for good in the books of the truly righteous and to be redeemed eternally, speedily and in our days, amen.

[Bassy the Haredi Slayer]

women are not allowed to converse loudly.
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What's wrong with that? The MTA should have the same policy.

[Shin]

What's wrong with that? The MTA should have the same policy.

Posted by: Bassy the Haredi Slayer | November 07, 2012 at 08:26 PM

Sersly, bitches always be mouthin off in the back of the bus and I think they need to shut up and get back in the kitchen so the men can talk.

[Alter Kocker]

And what are the modesty police to say when they find their members lying in a ditch somewhere bound and gagged. All is needed is one secular female with some martial skills and a need for justice.

That is what needs to happen

[Atheodox Jew]

Three comments:

1. Points #3 & #4 relate to "bein adam l'chavero" issues, sensitivity in relating to other human beings. Halavai all "pashkevilim" were about that and not all the other nonsense!

2. Isn't this against the law, given that all buses now have this sticker:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Egged_bus_seating_1.jpg

3. All this underscores the point that Israel needs a specific set of laws on the books to clarify the legality of "mehadrin" buses, or any kind of segregation in the public sphere. If the State leaves a vacuum with regards to what's allowed and what's not, the charedi "mod squad" will simply fill it with their own set of rules.

[dlz]

This poster was put up at least a month ago - there are no "monitors" on the buses enforcing anything. I take one of the mehadrin buses twice every day.

[Dick]

I think it is high time that the men protest. It is unfair that they are not allowed to sit in the rear of the bus. Enough pandering to the women. Men should be allowed to sit wherever they want!

[Moshe in Israel]

Get a dozen secular women to ride in the back of the bus on the longest route and have them sing Hatikvah the whole ride.

Fuck these pigs.

Posted by: Korben Dallas | November 07, 2012 at 07:50 PM

Geez, you don't even need women to do the singing of Hatikvah. Just get a group of Hesder Yeshiva students to do the same. And let them do it while holding their rifles.

And this can be followed up with מי שברכים

One for the soldiers and one for the State of Israel.

[Eli]

Glad to see that the tznius regulations come before treating other people properly. B"H they have their priorities straight.

[Shin]

Glad to see that the tznius regulations come before treating other people properly. B"H they have their priorities straight.

Posted by: Eli | November 08, 2012 at 05:54 AM

Since their only moral impetus to treat people properly is divine command then both decrees are just as meaningless.

[AztecQueen2000]

Men--Please keep silent! As you know, your conversations about Torah stir a strong yetzer hara in women who wish to learn. They may want to sit with you and join you in your study, thus committing the two aveirot of sitting next to men who are not their husbands and learning from the heilige Gemara, which is the sole purview of men.

[Jeff]

thus committing the two aveirot of sitting next to men who are not their husbands and learning from the heilige Gemara

Are you implying that sitting next to their husbands is permitted? Chos v'sholem!

[under duress]

Could someone explain what they mean by this? "4.Stopping the bus for personal needs"

[william]

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