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November 15, 2012

3 Chabad Followers Killed By Hamas Rocket

Apartment in Kiryat Makachi where 3 Chabad members were killed by Hamas rocket 11-15-2012The victims were identified as Ahron Smadga, Yitzchak Amselam, and a 25 year old pregnant woman, Mirah Scharf (nee Cohen). An infant and several children were wounded in the attack and were hospitalized.

Apartment in Kiryat Makachi where 3 Chabad members were killed by Hamas rocket 11-15-2012
The apartment where the three Chabad members were killed

3 Chabad Followers Killed By Hamas Rocket
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

The three Israeli civilians killed by a Hamas rocket earlier today in Kiryat Malakhi were members of the Chabad, the hasidic movement’s official public relations website, Lubavitch.com announced.

Kiryat Malakhi in located in Israel’s southern district about 11 miles from Ashkelon. It has a population of about 21,000, many of whom are Chabad hasidim.

The victims were identified as Ahron Smadga, Yitzchak Amselam, and a 25 year old pregnant woman, Mirah Scharf (nee Cohen). An infant and several children were wounded in the attack and were hospitalized.

Hundreds of rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel’s South since the IDF killed Ahmed Jabari, Hamas’s top military commander in Gaza, in response to a Hamas rocket attack that seriously injured four Israeli soldiers.

Mirah Scharf was reportedly the wife of a Chabad rabbi serving in Mumbai, India. Scharf was in Israel to attend a memorial for Chabad Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg and his wife Rivky, who were murdered in November 2008 along with six guests by Islamic terrorists in the Mumbai Chabad House they ran.

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Mirah Scharf was reportedly the wife of a Chabad rabbi serving in Mumbai, India.

New Delhi. Hashem yinkom damah!

Hashem yinkom damah!

Yeah, right! Her blood, because her blood was redder than the rest of our fellow Jews.

[/cynicism]

During the Gulf War, Schneerson promised “Israel was the safest place on Earth.” Chabad made much ado that allegedly the only person to die during the missile attacks was the leader of the “legalize pork (in Israel) movement.” This time around, the only people to die were Lubavitchers, *Chabad Shluchim* sheltering in a room with giant “King Rebbe Messiah” banners. The choices as I see them are either this hit was random, as is everything in the universe, or, following your worldview, the real Adonoy Melekh Haolam has had enough of people making Schneerson into a God and is moving against the dead Rebbe’s idolaters.

M.M.S did not know what he was saying .
he was stupid .

anyway, for a religious leader , he never went to israel , the land of the jewish ppl , weird ! and was not buried in israel, the way the torah says .

we ,the jewish ppl , therefore have to conclude that M.M.S .was not jewish , neither his organization .

@The Anti-Schmerl ,

how funny ! those chabad of mumbai are ill fated .they are meant to be killed , no matter where they are , in mumbai or in israel .

it's a curse , def

Horrible. Israel must do everthing it can to neutralise and destroy the enemy. As usual, the Charedim will do nothing to help.

Posted by: Fleishike Kishke | November 15, 2012 at 02:04 PM

Hey, I hate the Romans Lubavitchers as much as anyone, but you have to be a little more informed.

During the second Intifada I consulted some rabbanim who had been particularily close to the Lubavitcher when he was living, but they told me, unanimously and unreservedly, that a rickety, dilapidated wall (near which halacha prohibits standing due to risk of human life) in Israel is not safer than a stable wall in the Diaspora, and it is permitted to stand alongside the latter but not the former, even if one has to choose the latter over the former, and that nothing their rebbe said was ever meant to claim otherwise and that everything he said back then (regardless of the "rationale" he provided) was specific to that event at that time and does not have any application to any other time or event and may not be used to contradict halacha. There was absolute consensus on this (despite a layman looking at what was said then might come to a very different conclusion). So, what happened then was understood in context, and no one should be accused of having ever thought otherwise. ... In regard to this particular matter...

a horrible loss. i wish their loved ones the best.

was this one of the apartment buildings in kiryat malakhi that were part of the secret pact to keep ethiopians out last year?

israeli troops and reservists mass near the gaza border ahead of what might be a ground attack. parents say goodbye to their soldier sons. likewise brothers and sisters. and even children must give daddy a tearful hug and wish and pray for the best. and undoubtedly some will be seeing their son/brother/husband/father/grandson/friend for the last time as a living breathing person.
and all the while the overwhelming majority of charedi boys are cowering in a shelter somewhere with some old books and claiming theyre doing just as much mesiras nefesh as the soldiers risking their lives. they themselves dont believe it and the israeli public surely isnt buying it.
shame on all of these charedi families and i hope for an end to charedism before it destroys the country.

When this sort of thing happens its crucial to point out that the victims were chabad goyim and thus NOT Jewish.

This is the time to let the media understand that there is a difference.

was this one of the apartment buildings in kiryat malakhi that were part of the secret pact to keep ethiopians out last year?

Posted by: kitniyot | November 15, 2012 at 03:28 PM

Is it evil to say ... "I hope so"? Is it evil to say that the racist pact brought this on them (without in any way detracting from the guilt of the perpretrators)? Is it evil to say they deserved it?

Because I want to. But it feels wrong. Insensitive? Definitely. But evil?

Oh, and the pact wasn't secret. It was actually circulated oto the Kiryat Malachi residents via the (non-private) Facebook page of the Lubavitcher who devised it.

Fellow jews are killed in a terrorist attack and people here witter on spewing their hate for haredim and chabad.

That takes a pretty sick person to be so consumed with hate

Fellow jews are killed in a terrorist attack and people here witter on spewing their hate for haredim and chabad.

Posted by: Hamish McHorney | November 15, 2012 at 04:28 PM

No one hates them. We hate their perversion of the Jewish religion in that:

o They refuse to fight.
o They refuse to work.
o They refuse to educate their children.

When they undertake these fundamental aspects of the Jewish religion they will be welcomed back to the Jewish Nation with open arms and a few l'chaims.

Is this part of the programming for the GA, or for the Kinnus haShluchim.

3 murdered Jews; and the posters here malign the dead. Pretend they are palestinian murderers, exhibit the care and concern that you would undoubtedly display to such killers to our own brethren.

Fleish--
Hardly Random
The choices as I see them are either this hit was random, as is everything in the universe, or, following your worldview, the real Adonoy Melekh Haolam has had enough of people making Schneerson into a God and is moving against the dead Rebbe’s idolaters.

The Shlucha To New Delhi Among The Murdered
AD MOSAI: Exactly four years after the terrorist attack which claimed the lives of the Chabad Shluchim to Bombay India Rabbi Gavriel & Rivki Holtzberg HYD - the Shlucha to New Delhi India Mrs. Mira Scharf HYD (nee Cohen) was one of those killed at the Islamic Terrorist attack which also claimed the lives of R' Aharon Smadga HYD and R' Yitzchak Amselem HYD, two Lubavitchers from Nachlas Har Chabad ● Mrs. Scharf was pregnant and due to give birth in the next three months, but came to Israel early to participate in the Yohrtzeit of her fellow Shluchim to India, the Holtzbergs HYD ● Her husband, Rabbi Shmuel Scharf and their one-year old son are in critical condition.
In the Nazi Era even the most irreligious person of your ilk who was killed as a Jew was called a Kodosh.
If you cannot be magnanimous to them at least have rachmonus on yourself an retract what you posted here.
How about it, do you have a heart or not?

Mendel, I mourn these kodoshim, if you please, and have total sympathy for their friends and families. I felt terrible when reading the news this morning. I was (and am) very angry and wish Israel exacts the maximum revenge. But the fact remains these three people, much as almost all Lubavitchers, lived their lives, and likely imposed on others, certain beliefs about the late Menachem Schneerson, which in moments such as these are proven patently foolish. In pointing it out, specifically in times such as these, I hope that some Lubavitchers (including you) will mend their thinking. I still appreciate your honesty about the teachings of the Chabad movement. Unlike some others here, I think you’re a sweet guy. If I hurt you, I’m sorry. But it was deliberate. I’m trying to teach you something. You can dance all you want at your conventions, and live in an echo chamber, and think that under Schneerson’s Flag you are “conquering the world,” but the cold facts show otherwise. To the very depths of your being you have to learn that Rebbe Schneerson is dead as the three kodoshim who died this morning. Rebbe Schneerson can no longer hear you. He can help you with nothing. He no longer exists (outside his pictures and writing). He will never come back as the messiah.

was this one of the apartment buildings in kiryat malakhi that were part of the secret pact to keep ethiopians out last year?

probably, kitniyot. I see them establishing the death of the poor trio of victims as a good reason for fund raising.

Some of the comments here make me as sick as reading about what happened. Three dead, the rest of the Sharf family in critical condition. If you want to spew hate then STFU. Have a look at the photo of the family.
http://www.vosizneias.com/117415/2012/11/15/jerusalem-kiryat-malachi-rocket-attack-victims-mourned-by-friends-and-family

May she rest in peace.

Mira Scharf's husband and 3 children are in critical condition.
please say tehillim now:
Shmuel ben Chaya Sarah Yehudis
Yosef Yitzchak ben Mira Rut
Chana bas Mira Rut
Geulah bas Mira Rut

I have actively criticized the many problems of Chabad over the years on this blog. I am, however, disgusted to see the level at which some of the current more active commentators are thinking and writing with respect to perverting this sad news. Please, put some class into your acts and stop it now.

Wow. Thank you Steven and Ari.

We can only hope Israel finds peace soon and there is an end to the senseless blood shed.

I'm no fan of Chabad but this is a tragedy, no two ways about it.

I feel sorrow for the children.

A young lad is thinking, thinking all night
Would it be wrong, he asks, or maybe right,
Should he declare his love, dare he choose,
And would she accept, or will she refuse?

Chorus:
Tumbala, tumbala, tumbalalaika,
Tumbala, tumbala, tumbalalaika
tumbalalaika, play Balalaika,
tumbalalaika - let us be merry.

Maiden, maiden tell me again
What can grow, grow without rain,
What can burn for many years,
What can long and cry without tears?

Silly young lad, why ask again?
It's a stone that can grow, grow without rain,
It's love that can burn for many long years,
A the heart that can yearn and cry without tears.

All three will be reincarnated as chairs in 770 in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Kiryat Malakhi's main transportation hub is Malakhi Junction (also known as Qastina, after the pre-state Arab village that was located here). Arabs are hella angry now.

I am going to write very cruel things. But this is the truth. I live in southern Israel; have experienced quite a few Tzeva Adom sirens in the last two days. When I hear it I head for cover; I follow instructions. In the 4th (top) floor apartment where this happened you head away from exterior walls, go into the stairwell, or preferably into the shelter (this building is old and had no mamad, but it did have an underground shelter which was not useable because the residents had - illegally - turned it into a storeroom). In Kiryat Melachi you have very nearly a whole minute, plenty of time. So what happened here? The two males went out onto the balcony to take pictures of the Kipat Barzel hitting the Grad rocket. But as everyone here knows this is not nearly 100%. The Sharfs stayed in the living room. If these 3 and families would simply have gone to the stairwell (a couple of seconds) this tragedy would have been avoided. This is not bitachon b'hashem - this is utter stupidity.
So now George you can come at me; I am evil because I tell the truth.

Lost for words.
How can people write these comments about 3 innocent people who were killed for simply being a jew. You may not like Chabad, no one is forcing you too, but to use 3 deaths at the hands of terrorists for you own personal vendettas is absolutely shameful. Would you have the manhood (to put in kinder words) to say your comments to the faces of the grieving families and friends at the funeral?! Probably not, hell you don't even have the manhood to write your own name after posting a comment!
#Fleishike Kishke,# HasidsRGoyim#David #: Nigritude Ultramarine

Good onya Silbo.

There is a time and place for criticizing religion, Chabad, Haredim etc.

This is not it.

This is a time for empathy with the suffering of our fellow primates.

If you cannot achieve that then your primary concern might not, perhaps, be the state of anybody else's soul.

This is the EXACT time to criticize Chabad and its idiot belief system. Instead of following recommended precautions (see Chief Hole-in-the-Sheet | November 16, 2012 at 01:22 AM) these people relied on their "yellow Schneerson-is-Messiah lapel pin." Meditate on this until it gets into your head. If you are Chabad and behave this way, you DESERVE what you get. If you financially support Chabad, you support this brainless reckless mindset, and the blood of these people is on your hands. Your Bible says that if you worship idols the land will vomit you out.

Is it evil to say ... "I hope so"? Is it evil to say that the racist pact brought this on them (without in any way detracting from the guilt of the perpretrators)? Is it evil to say they deserved it?

Because I want to. But it feels wrong. Insensitive? Definitely. But evil?

Posted by: Maskil | November 15, 2012 at 03:46 PM

petty bigotry clearly does not merit being maimed or murdered. we really know almost nothing about the dead except that they were Lubavitchers. I am sure that they were essentially good, well-intentioned people, and we will never have the chance to know them now.

I did not intend to for my comment about racism in kiryat malakhi to be taken as causally linking the two events, but now that I reread it, I see that I didn't make that clear at all.

clearly some of the dead and injured behaved in a foolish and reckless manner. their deaths were terrible and senseless.

but I am still curious about whether the owner of this shoddily-constructed building- with an unmaintained shelter that was apparently "cluttered and filled with sewage"- was also involved in the pact to exclude ethiopians.

Probably not, hell you don't even have the manhood to write your own name after posting a comment!
#Fleishike Kishke,# HasidsRGoyim#David #: Nigritude Ultramarine

Posted by: Yossi Silberman | November 16, 2012 at 01:45 AM

Argumentum ad hominem -- an irrelevance -- mere verbal abuse. To that you signed your putative real name?

Your time might be better spent signing you real name to a missive to President Obama imploring him to send increased aid to the Israelis -- the Jewish ones -- under attack.

You might suggest that he send sorties of C-5M Super Galaxy aircraft laden with adult diapers and batteries of the MIM-104 Patriot surface-to-air missile system.

Blah, blah, blah Silberman. Had these three gone into the stairwell, or into a shelter, such as regular people do, they very well might be alive. But they lived "above nature," solely reliant on the protection of the dead, impotent and gone-forever Rebbe. Missiles have hit MANY homes over the past few years. Reinforced areas protect. Banners proclaiming the long dead Rebbe as the Messiah help nothing. I see the pain and confusion etched into the face of Rabbi Jaroslavsky, performing the duty of pallbearer to honor the dead. Perhaps he can tell the people of Kiryat Malachi to festoon their bomb shelters with their idiotic banners. Because the idiotic banners by themselves help NOTHING.

This is the EXACT time to criticize Chabad and its idiot belief system.

Posted by: Fleishike Kishke | November 16, 2012 at 09:48 AM

This is what I expect from one who posted:

Just why are you here for? Just what interest do you have in Orthodox Judaism?

... My interest in Orthodox Judaism in in subverting it.

Posted by: Fleishike Kishke | February 08, 2012 at 07:53 PM

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2012/02/skvere-rebbe-asks-hasidim-to-pray-for-mercy-for-arsonist-345.html

Case in point, Avi. If these people would have listened to government instructions, and not their "Orthodox Judaism" they might still be alive.

And why don't you try and argue a point of view (if you can) instead of bringing "proofs" from the comments of someone who opposed those Squarer Assholes for trying to burn a Hasidic Jew alive, much like, you know, Hamas. Belief in these fraudulent Rebbes corrupts how you folks act and think.

My interest in Orthodox Judaism is in subverting it.
Fleish--
What you have just now said brings to an end what could have been the continuation of a beautiful relationship.
So be it.
Dittos to you re what I conveyed to Korben Dallas:
" If you still have a good outcome after what you have spewed here re the derech of these Kodoship,
I will take my hell and you can keep your heaven."

Oh, Mendel, say it ain't so. I've managed to alienate even you? I wrote that back in February. Maybe I already did Tshuva? "Yechi Hamelech. Yechi Hamelech." You see? I can keep saying that, even if that mindset causes delusional recklessness and kills all the Lubavichers in Kiryat Malachi. The main thing is to say "Yechi Hamelech," because when we say it enough times, then Moshiach Rebbe will return. Please, Mendel. Be my friend. Don't cast me out to the e-wilderness.

Wow.

I'm here in Israel.

I'm hearing the sirens.

I've been discharged from the IDF Two weeks ago, but most of my friends are preparing to go fight now.

There's a time and place for everything.

The comments here blow my mind.

Don't understand why people engage these viscous haters in a continous conversation. Tell them what you think and leave them alone.

Mkblitz, where are you? What's going on now?

I met a Chabad Shliach on Shabboss visiting from Israel. He has two children serving in the IDF both positioned at the border of the Gaza strip.

Posted by: Mkblitz | November 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM

An American Chabad friend of mine was also finished his service in the IDF several weeks ago and came home. He flew back to Israel last week and he may be called up to duty.

I met a Chabad Shliach on Shabboss visiting from Israel. He has two children serving in the IDF both positioned at the border of the Gaza strip.

Posted by: ca | November 17, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Posted by: Mkblitz | November 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM

An American Chabad friend of mine was also finished his service in the IDF several weeks ago and came home. He flew back to Israel last week and he may be called up to duty.

Posted by: ca | November 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM

To be fair, almost all of the Chabad soldiers in the IDF are ba'al teshuvas, the children of ba'al teshuvas or kids who would be termed "at risk" before they enlisted.

Chabadniks from lifer Chabad families almost never serve in the IDF.

That may be, I don't know but I'll take your word for it. This guy, though, was a regular Shliach lifer with 2 kids in the IDF.

The other kid I mentioned is baal teshuvah affiliated Chabad though.

Is there truth to this article? Was this program implemented?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/146260#.UKhoVGdhVa8

Posted by: ca | November 17, 2012 at 10:49 PM

I believe that a day or so later, Chabad denied the the deal and said the article was false.

ok ty

dh:
I'm in Jerusalem but I've been down south a little. There are many units and tons of reserves just waiting at the border of Gaza for the command. At the same time there are indications that a cease fire will happen.

Shmarya: Nice and subtle, but I've emailed you using my real name. My family is as prominent in Chabad as they come, and I was not "at risk" when I enlisted. I'll be happy to let you know that there many more like me, yet still far from how many there should be.
While Chabad does not deserve a pat on the back for the amount of boys it has in the army, they are moving in the right direction. Ask around.

The following article should be of interest:
http://www.mynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4212860,00.html
This was put on-line on April 12th, 2012. On Shabat HaGadol (i.e. 6 months ago) in his drasha Rabbi Chaim Pinto (the father of the infamous Pinto) who is the Chief Rabbi of both Kiryat Malachi and of Ashdod explained that when the Color Red siren goes off it is not necessary to run to the mamad (safe room) in Kiryat Malachi, but in Ashdod it is necessary. The reason given was that in Kiryat Malachi there are kivrei tzadikim while there are none in Ashdod. Thus it is strange that in Kiryat Malachi there are three dead from a single Grad because people did not go into the mamadim, while in Ashdod there have thus far been no fatalities, in spite of the many Grad-falls.

Online ● Full Story, The Rebbe's Answer
4 Kislev 5773 (18.11.2012)
On Thursday morning, moments after he was taken to the hospital, New Delhi Shliach Rabbi Shmuel Scharf asked a friend to write to the Rebbe about his wife, for he has not seen her and was worried about her fate.

The friend put the letter into Igros and the chilling answer which came out was enough for Rabbi Scharf to understand what happened... The letter discussed the great importance of helping young orpahns in the time of need.http://www.chabadinfo.com/index.php?url=article_en&id=29203
The Rebbe is chai vkayam.

Rabbi Shmuel Scharf, the Shliach to New Delhi India, gave a short interview to the "Bechadrei Chareidim" website, in which he described the 10 seconds between the siren and the direct hit which killed his wife and wounded him and his son ● He thanked G-d for staying alive with his children, and shared his plans for the future if (G-d forbid) Moshiach doesn't come: "We are returning to complete our Shlichus in New Delhi!"
Rabbi Shmuel Scharf, the Shliach to New Delhi India, gave a short interview to the "Bechadrei Chareidim" website, in which he described the 10 seconds between the siren and the direct hit which killed his wife and wounded him and his son ● He thanked G-d for staying alive with his children, and shared his plans for the future if (G-d forbid) Moshiach doesn't come: "We are returning to complete our Shlichus in New Delhi!"
http://chabadinfo.com/index.php?url=article_en&id=29206

Mkblitz, thanks. To the extent that you can, tell us what the other boys in your Chabad community think of you enlisting and if you were in a combat squadron.

dh:
It's getting very excepted in Chabad now all over, and especially in Crown Heights. With every new draft these days, you're getting more and more Chabad kids from all over the world. Many of them are making it to elite units as well. Among the older generation it's still a bit touchy, but that's changing as well.
While people wont admit it yet, even among the chareidim we're seeing a small shift in the right direction. It's not that rare to find full beards+payot in the army today.

This is why people think I'm a troll.

full beards+payot

Not Chabad, just Zionists. There are a number of religious Zionists who do not cut their beards ... and have peyot. R' Kook didn't cut his beard. Yes, later generations lived under "majority ruling" that one may cut one's beard, and some roshei yeshiva in Mosad Harav Kook will say that having a beard is presuptuous. But there are plenty who don't trim, and it's not due to Chabad. Anyway, majority of today's Misnagdim have ruled that it's prohibited (Rav Shach, Auerbach, Kamenietzky, Shteinman, Elyashiv, and many others ... literally the vast majority). But the beards with peyot, that is the look of idealistic religious Zionists, and if the knitted yarmulkeh is too big, well, that's another category מתחבלניקים.

Meanwhile, these are the comments on a site full of Chabad detractors. See COL, they're saying that it's because of the lack of tzniyus in Kiryat Malachi. That's right, they're blaming the locals for the tragedy they brought on themselves from the Chamas rockets. Others are petitioning (or, at least, aggressively suggesting) that the Shluchim be cannonized post mortem (i.e. recognized as Shluchim by Merkos, because we all know they cannot go to heaven for mesiras nefesh unless they are shluchim...). Lubavitchers, you can live without them...

Sorry, should have read: מתנחבלניקים

"Rabbi Shmuel Scharf... described the 10 seconds between the siren and the direct hit which killed ..."
Sorry, Mendel, but this is bullshit. In Kiryat Melachi there is slightly MORE than a whole minute. THAT IS A FACT - and that is why many many many residents of KM have been saved.

Ahron Smadga z'l (sefardi)
Yitzchak Amselam z'l (sefardi)
Mirah Scharf z'l (ashkenaz or maybe married to one)

It has a population of about 21,000, many of whom are Chabad hasidim.

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