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October 11, 2012

London Haredi Rabbi Rape And Sex Scandal?

Alleged victimA very prominent haredi rabbi in London has allegedly used his position as a marriage counselor to coerce women into having sex with him. The rabbi was allegedly exposed to the rabbinic heads of Kedassia (the haredi Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations) when one of those women taped the rabbi and threatened to give to police unless the rabbi resigns and leaves town. (She may have also given a copy to the Kedassia beit din, religious court.) Several haredi rabbis have privately tried to get this rabbi to resign his positions and leave London, but no one has called police. So far, the rabbi has refused to leave the city and Kedassia heads have allegedly asked the rabbis to leave the city, but have taken no action past that.

 

This situation appears to very similar to the case against alleged child rapist Rabbi Nechemya Weberman of Williamsburg – except no one in hasidic leadership in Williamsburg has done anything to try to deal with Weberman. (Weberman was eventually arrested because an alleged victim went to police.)

A London haredi blog has discussed some of the scandal in very opaque terms.

I have the name of this rabbi and a few more details, but I won't publish them until I can get confirmation.

Here is the Jewish Chronicle's brief article on the London scandal via IfYouTickleUs. It isn't online yet:

Jewish Chronicle Haredi Rabbis' scandal 10-11-2012

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To Dov
Since you clearly know a lot about it, what exactly are you intending to do about it.
The rabbonim dont seem to be interested, I can understand that very well, so what will be your next steps if any.
May I also ask if the leaders and delegates of the union are also aware of it.
They are the ones who can take action. Their names are public knowledge and there should be some way you can inform them anonymously.

ndependentjew I have passed on my contact details to Shmarya. He says he has passed them onto you. Pls pls get in contact. Thanks

Dovid.
I am not from Manchester and nor is my friend hence the lodging by todras. Who is Faigy? She has been to the heads of a different sem, but they also can't help.

You mention that he paid her, so what she had bills for thousands for therapy, and yet she still isn't over it as her abuser continues to abuse others.

I have found out he davens in Horidonka (not sure why this will help)

I don't understand why ppl left the dayans shul is it because of previous sexual allegations?

As I said before we arnt from Manchester but we have approached many Rabbonim in Manchester (and outside) but non would do anything at all.

I know 100% there are other victims!!!!

That certainly figures.
You come to Manchester on your own, you have no family there,and are very vulnerable and he takes advantage.
From where does one get the thousands for therapy.
Faigy is the daughter of the late RY. You most likely have very few friends there if you have not yet heard of her. So the first thing must be to enlarge your circle. You call yourself frum, would you say you are the normal Manchester standard.
No town likes to be told by outsiders its faults and as you mentioned earlier the same with horodonka and his chasidim.
You and your friend most likely want also to remain anonymous, so there is very little one can do. He has this rich multi millionaire rebbe on his side who funds the whole of Manchester, no one will ever start up with him.
Sometimes one has to be practical and realise that wrong triumphs over right. I do sympathise strongly but what exactly would you like to happen.
There are other free sites like TAM where if you join one can write personal private messages and stay anonymous.

Are you and your friend from an older Manchester family. Dont you both have parents to help. This is not really a girls job.

Whats the weather like on your planet? Is that all women are to you caregivers, housewives, cleaners and mothers?

Sorry just coz she was on her own at age 14 dosent mean a fully grown man in his late thirties can take advantage of her he raped a minor!!!!

He should be thrown out his home and forced out of manchester.

Why is it that the rabbonim refuse to do anything.

She would come out but she feard being ostracized by our own himesha community.

Isn't it sad???

Even though your right sometimes wrong wins over right in these cases (its the worst thing a person can go through) its a case that the rabboim can do something about it but for some reason won't.

Its time we had an assifah on this screw internet this is worse

Pls can you advise me on what exactly TAM is

i wouldn't trust dovid. looks like an apologist of the establishment to me, who does NOT wnat those stories to come. I would not give him any victim's names, he might misuse them to throw mud at the victims.

TAM is a site called Talk About Marriage.
http://talkaboutmarriage.com.
If you sign up (free)you can write private anonymous messages to others who sign up.
Most forum sites usually have this facility.
I take great exception to what the previous poster says. I am quite well known to be very much against the 'establishment' and I will not be asking your name.
You have more or less answered the question yourself, because money is more important.
You must know his wife, where is she in all this.
I have already given you one name in Salford I do know the area and can most likely give you many more.
These people will not ostracize you.
The only way to get people 'out' is by his friends and neighbours not wanting to have to do with him. That is why I asked where he davens.
What is a girl at age 14 doing on her own. Wasnt she in school. Why didnt she confide in her teachers.


I don't agree with soso either. I think your just bieng friendly and trying to help.

Soso I challenge you to come up with another soloution.

The questions of why are not relevant it happened in the past. The facts are what happened and now they have to be dealt with.

The wife is in it with him (probably not her fault) but bottom line is the sad reality that the rabbonim won't act.

I am in the process of setting up a organisation here in London. The plan is to educate the community on abuse and support the victims. There are Rabbonim supporting this. If you or someone you know is in need of help, guidance or support please be in touch. Migdalemunah@gmail.com.

'There are 'Rabbonim' supporting this'
Very difficult to believe. How many are there.
Have you at all read this blog.
Are any from London.
Perhaps you name them. They all made sure to be named on the internet ban, and a second list had to be written for those who were 'left' out. If you have any from Manchester this girl would be very interested.

I think it is important to take action if a pension abuses boardes from the Manchester sem. This is inacceptable.

Normally, when sexual abuse happens, it is best to go straight to the police and to gather evidence. If you are two, this might be a good basis to file a police report against the perpetrator. Once the affair is out, more victims might come forward, so that the perpetrator can be condemned.

I think it is a mistake to go to the rabbanim, since experience show that they crush investigations most of the time.

Dear All,


We will shortly be posting details here of contact numbers of a professional STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL hotline which is in the process of being set up for the purpose of victims who (a) wish to come forward with information they have on CH and (b) for those who have unfortunately fallen into the trap of CH and may have now lost any trust in help for them and that justice could be achieved.

The hotline will be manned and answered by fully qualified and professional psychotherapists who are able to provide the right support for those victims coming forward. They will also be Jewish but not charedim.

Attention If you are a victim or have direct contact with a victim:-

1: You do not need to give out your name when speaking to us. We fully respect your privacy and we will guarantee maximum anonymity. Likewise, we are protecting our psychotherapists from any potential hoax callers and so they will not give you their names either thus allowing everything to remain anonymous to protect you and your identity. You may withhold your number if you so wish.

2: By coming forward you will be strengthening the already existing severe cases we have been analysing, cross examining and verifying. You are doing the right thing by not remaining silent, by helping so many victims out there ( by the way, prominent Lawyers have been examining witness statements that have successfully been collected in total anonymity to the claimants / victims and this likely to result in a successful arrest in due course) and by helping to bring down all the people who not only bare full responsibility to their victims for his sexual abuse, but also for the misuse of his power.

3. We fully understand the risk you feel by revealing your identity, not only for your husband or your family to keep this away from for obvious reasons of future damage but also from your community. You will be able to tell us your full experience with CH and at some point either a Lawyer or the Police will need your identity for the purpose of any future prosecution, in any event, your ID will NEVER be revealed and your life can continue as usual once you have provided your statement of truth.

If you are not a genuine caller and are attempting to interrupt or interfere with this process here is the formal warning: be careful! you will be tracked down and dragged into your nearest police station.

There are a numbet of serious criminal allegations that have been put forward here and sadly all stories to date bare the same hallmarks of CH's Modus Operandi ( similar to that of a pheodophile) . Absolutely shocking that this is coming from the most senior of our community.

Also, and here is a peice of small observance: all of his victims so far appear extremely genuine and do not bare any political 'know how' to argue that this could be politically motivated.

Lastlty, Here is a message to all those supporters of CH and closed minded people who still believe CH is their god (cv),

"Distance yourself NOW or you will have egg on your face"

Further details to follow in due course.

Law 18.

LONLY: I have passed on my details via shmarya. You should have them by now.
Its hard to know why the rabbonim arnt acting. Some rabbonim are involved in some very dubious behaviour and might feel vulnrable. Others fear mesirah and feel they can handle this themselves. They believe there is a cure for all this. There is a lot of ignorance. But I feel the former point plays a bigger role.

There are rabbonim that are guilty of molestation themselves and there are others that are guilty of the same stuff that Reb Ch is being accused of. I am aware of one case where the son in law of one of the prominent rabbonim is a pedophile. All this means that they are very motivated to protect their own.

Law 18

So, lawyers have been examing anonymous evidence. It must be extremely easy for them to ascertain its veracity as it is being provided anonymously.

Honestly your while post has this pretentious air of trying to sound professional but the poor spelling and absurd suspended disbelief such as above make it all seem an elaborate joke.

If I am wrong then surely it wouldn't be hard for you to provide the salient details that form this alleged criminal behaviour.

Law 18..... nah, you don't sound legitimate.

Law 18 - I have no idea who you are, and I know a thing or two about what is going on here. There are a couple of rabbonim who victims can go to, not that this is likely to have much more of an impact than all the previous cases of abuse they have heard about at the hands of this man. The best thing would be to call the police or the press, if you can stomach it. There is much that they can do even without your name being made public.

This is all very sad and shocking straight after Rosh Hashana/YK

Ex camper. Despite the passage of time, you must come forward and let the relevant authorities know about what happened to you on camp. Your doing so will right a wrong that was committed against you and most likely others. If you know of other victims of this sicko, you need to encourage them to come forward as well. It is never too late to bring to justice and “out” those who smugly think they have escaped sanctions and carry on with their lives as pillars of the community. Don’t let this be another Jimmy Saville and allow these sick individuals the chance to escape.

When children are sent on camp, their parents entrust their most precious possessions into the care of others. It sounds like that trust has been most savagely misplaced and breached and I would urge you to do something about it and bring satisfactory closure to yourself and others.

Dear All,


We will shortly be posting details here of contact numbers of a professional STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL 'hotline' which is in the process of being set up for the purpose of victims who; (a) wish to come forward with information they have on CH and (b) for those who have unfortunately fallen into the trap of CH and may have now lost any trust in help for them and that justice could be achieved.

The hotline will be manned and answered by fully qualified and professional psychotherapists who are able to provide the right support for those victims coming forward. They will also be Jewish but not charedim.

Attention If you are a victim or have direct contact with a victim:-

1: You do not need to give out your name when speaking to us. We fully respect your privacy and we will guarantee maximum anonymity. Likewise, we are protecting our psychotherapists from any potential hoax callers and so they will not give you their names either thus allowing everything to remain anonymous to protect you and your identity. You may withhold your number if you so wish.

2: By coming forward you will be strengthening the already existing severe cases we have been analysing, cross examining and verifying. You are doing the right thing by not remaining silent, by helping so many victims out there ( by the way, prominent Lawyers have been examining witness statements that have successfully been collected in total anonymity to the claimants / victims and this likely to result in a successful arrest in due course) and by helping to bring down all the people who not only bear full responsibility to their victims for his sexual abuse, but also for the misuse of his power.

3. We fully understand the risk you feel by revealing your identity, not only for your husband or your family to keep this away from for obvious reasons of future damage but also from your community. You will be able to tell us your full experience with CH and at some point either a Lawyer or the Police will need your identity for the purpose of any future prosecution, in any event, your ID will NEVER be revealed and your life can continue as usual once you have provided your statement of truth.

If you are not a genuine caller and are attempting to interrupt or interfere with this process here is the formal warning: be careful! you will be tracked down and dragged into your nearest police station.

There are a number of serious criminal allegations that have been put forward here and sadly all stories to date bear the same hallmarks of CH's Modus Operandi ( similar to that of a paedophile) . Absolutely shocking that this is coming from the most senior of our community.

Also, and here is a piece of small observation: all of his victims so far appear extremely genuine and do not have any political 'know how' to argue that this could be politically motivated.

Lastly, Here is a message to all those supporters of CH and closed minded people who still believe CH is their god (cv),

"Distance yourself NOW or you will have egg on your face"

Further details to follow in due course.

Seems Law18 is a parrot..

So you have written it twice and corrected your spelling mistakes.
Most of the women he saw were chasidic from SH. Unlikely to see the internet. Why do you think CH was on the top of the list banning it.
You ought to advertise in the SH update/newssheet, done discreetly where others and children wouldnt realise.
Or plain put up notices in all shuls in the area.

If it's true, then great. From bitter personal experience, I can attest that there would be no better place for CH than behind bars, although I would advise the lady prison guards to be careful.

Law 18, very fishy.

Shmarya, thanks for all the action :-)

I have it from reasonably reliable source that the reason blogger Ifyoutickleus removed his original blog post is because a very wealthy individual from the now famous "Bridge Lane Community" has bankrolled a high flying attorney who has commenced proceedings for suing for libel and they are filing for a court to force Google to reveal the blog author for litigation. The blog has quite a history of provocative and controversial posts, but the author was very careful to stay on the fence re slander, but this time I think he went too far.

Seems fun times possibly ahead here in the UK!

Forgot to add; earlier today, I tried to comment on his blog asking for verification or denial on what is making the rounds re litigation, and asked whether he could confirm if he had been contacted or threatened, but my comment never made it through his moderation.

Hunter turned hunted?

SR, don't let this post sink to far down the list,as this blog is the meeting place for this important discussion.

That blog did not name him anymore than the chronicle did.
Can a blog owner be sued for what posters write.
Even though it is moderated, it was already common knowledge. Shmarya wrote much worse about him. So if someone copied from this blog there, that isnt any different to providing a link to here.
I would say that CH position at the moment in the union is untenable. And although he may keep his shul, he wont be able to remain a dayan. If someone loses in his bais din he will just throw this at him.
The others in the Golders green bais din which he chairs are not chasidim but staunch yekkes, and will not sit with him after this.
The tribune (the london aguda/union paper) which carefully analyses the chronicle every week looking at which rabbi it is making fun of, and complaining about it, will be very interesting if it doesnt comment on this.
That blog is still accepting comments about it and if he was under threat he wouldnt be.
I happen to know that people who have spoken to SH rabbonim or their wives do not deny that their are accusations against him and they brand them only as loshon hora not MSR. If there was no truth to them R Padwa or his father would have by now put a cherem on anyone who spreads them which is what rabbonim usually do. His father was quite quick to say that Westheim meat was n'vailo Utraifo in public.
Everything points to some smoke and therefore fire.
I agree to jjj keep this blog higher up

That blog did not name him anymore than the chronicle did.
Can a blog owner be sued for what posters write.
Even though it is moderated, it was already common knowledge. Shmarya wrote much worse about him. So if someone copied from this blog there, that isnt any different to providing a link to here.
I would say that CH position at the moment in the union is untenable. And although he may keep his shul, he wont be able to remain a dayan. If someone loses in his bais din he will just throw this at him.
The others in the Golders green bais din which he chairs are not chasidim but staunch yekkes, and will not sit with him after this.
The tribune (the london aguda/union paper) which carefully analyses the chronicle every week looking at which rabbi it is making fun of, and complaining about it, will be very interesting if it doesnt comment on this.
That blog is still accepting comments about it and if he was under threat he wouldnt be.
I happen to know that people who have spoken to SH rabbonim or their wives do not deny that their are accusations against him and they brand them only as loshon hora not MSR. If there was no truth to them R Padwa or his father would have by now put a cherem on anyone who spreads them which is what rabbonim usually do. His father was quite quick to say that Westheim meat was n'vailo Utraifo in public.
Everything points to some smoke and therefore fire.

dovid, Ifyoutickleus was the first who put these allegations out in the wild and he didn't post "allegedly", it was very detailed and satirical with insinuations to towels and other stuff I cannot remember. The JC took their info primarily from the blog. They had no substance to the article besides for all the details from the blog and twitter feed.

I know some who saved the blog post and bl'n I will check for the exact language he used, but apparently it didn't have clear that these were rumors etc. it had alot of details and was put as definitive fact.

Bottom line. if these allegations are false, that blog post was way out of line in its wording, and as far as I read it, it was very much as if the allegations were proved with recordings etc. If Rabbi CH would not be such a respected person, that blog post would've wiped him out.

Let's see how this plays out.

There is a common rumor in SHill who is supposedly behind the ifyoutickleus blog (and if correct, the blogger has an intimate knowlege of law...), so it will be fascinating if this is verified.

dovid, re the naming. All the hints were there, and I am no law expert, but I would imagine this would be one of the debates whether it was clear enough.

The JC was just rereporting something which was already in the digital public domain.

james AKA Law18

sorry to disappoint you, i am not Law 18

What you say starts to make sense.
I think I know now who is behind it.
That explains why the T'hillim case, widely commented about by shmarya on here was totally absent there.
That would have been a perfect case to make fun of the union dayanim which he is forever doing.

NewsScooper - Let me promise you one thing; if this matter goes to the courts, it sure as hell won't be for libel. I just hope that the concerned party is intelligent enough not to let it get to that level and be makdim refuoh la'makoh.

dovid, actually I seem to recall he did write about that - maybe in his twitter.

If you follow his blog you will notice:
1. He is a parent in the YHS girls school.
2. He has brilliant writing skills - rare in SHill (as opposed to NW London).
3. Has a keen interest and intimate knowlege of chassidish and Britih Jewry history.
4. Is from the Cravenwalk (complained about mikveh there etc.)/Leabourne area of Stamford Hill (as opposed to Dunsmere/cazenove etc.
5. His blog used to have some legal jargon about it's content (very rare for blogs)
6. He is VERY liberal regarding comments and even allows foul language, slander and shmutz, but when someone started posting seeming very generic hints about his identity which were ambiguous unless true, the comments disappeared very quickly and he started moderating comments.

There are more but I cant be bothered now. Perhaps in the coming days I will post more.

Please.

I heard about this case before it was posted by IfYouTickleUs and about other UK haredi cases.

The senior haredi rabbis cover up the abuse, and any junior rabbis who naively try to expose the abusers are crushed by those senior haredi rabbis.

Until victims go directly to police and report the crimes to them, rather than to rabbis, this will continue.

After a few abusers and a senior haredi rabbi or two are indicted and convicted, the attitude of senior haredi rabbis toward the abusers they protect will begin to change.

But the key is for victims to go directly to police straight away.

And don't worry about NewsScooper.

When the police start to investigate the coverups, people like him will begin to fade away. And some of them, perhaps NewsScooper himself, will pay a legal price for their lies.

Shmarya, you are right in principle, but wrong in approach.
of course, this must not get swept under the carpet. there are moves afoot to ensure that this doesnt happen. BUT it is naive and unrealistic to expect these naive, vulnerable, often quite unsophisticated women to go directly to lawyers or police. In their world, the authorities are equated with the poritz in the shtetl, who needs to be placated and, above all else, avoided.
they need guarantees of anonymity, handholding (of the metaphoric type!!!), guiding them and their spouses to professional therapy to addres the guilt (which is standard in these cases) etc etc. in other words, a culturally sensitive context needs to be in place to support them. hence, my appeal for people to come forward WITHOUT giving away their names, etc until trust can be established. if this does not happen very soon, the perpetrator will ride this out, and be stronger than ever, behave himself for a year or so, then be emboldened like never before, convince himself (rightly) of his inivincibility, and be more daring and ratchet up his abuse to a more depraved level.

Wake up people.

This man needs to be put behind bars.

How beneficial is it for people to have a leader who is really just a big pervert?

There is no point being defensive, going against your internal moral compass.

Tzedek tzedek tirdof.

No youre both wrong.
Not belonging to the orthodox community you dont seem to realise that a Jewish woman cant say she has been raped however true it may be.
She has a very lot to lose. Her husband her kids everything. Much more than he will ever have. To say it was forced will not help at all. There is no way any Jewish woman will ever take him to court or go to the police. Its just not worth it for her even if she wins and that's not certain.

This rabbi knows it so do all the others including R Padwa so why make a fuss unnecessarily. She really has no option open to her at all.

Perhaps you should also know why he has so many sholom bayis problems.
The system in SH is that the woman works usually as a teacher for a set period a week now going up to 21 hours. Officially she receives the minimum wage but has to return it or most of it. Many others are just registered as teachers usually the daughters of the rich. Oh its all corrupt.
For that the government to lower the unemployment figures provides the couple with free housing and many extra hundreds depending on how many children.
Not all women can take it that they have to slave away all week for nothing and the husband lazes about.
Although its unlikely her next husband will be any different since that is the system here, some rather prefer to be without.
If she does get a divorce the husband is usually left home and dry. Often from abroad with no family to fall back on. So has to be supported by the community.
There are quite a few ulterior motives for keeping her married not just sholom bayis.

How will it play out further.
As a dayan he is finished. Not in GG or in SH. Nothing can change that. Even if Eliyahu hanovi comes and says he is totally innocent.
As a shul rabbi, perhaps with similar members he will be able to carry on. He most likely will because of this gain many extra chasidim. The excuse maybe that one doesnt ask 'kashes' on a rebbe. He can do no wrong. He must have 'hoiche kavonos' far above our level of understanding.
In the chumash 'zimri' was also supported by everyone. It seems the 'brasher' the act, the more support one gets.

Please.

I heard about this case before it was posted by IfYouTickleUs and about other UK haredi cases.

Posted by: Shmarya | October 16, 2012 at 06:50 PM

Yes, but as I already pointed out, you have little understanding or familiarity of the UK inter-rabbinic setup with its politics, rivalries etc to have the insight as to whether your 'source' is just a disgruntled opponent of the accused, who is unpopular in the eyes of many, or is in fact genuine. You are thus poorly placed to evaluate the veracity of the claims.

To corroborate this, so far, both on here and on ifyoutickleus, reports of what happened appear to be mostly conjecture or speculation, some of it conflicting, which really doesnt help the allegations. For the purpose of clarity it would help greatly if you could elaborate what details your 'source' has provided.

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Brian - I'm not asking you to believe anything, but just ask yourself why not a single rov outside of the Halpern family will defend him or deny that there are allegations. Call up Rav Padwa yourself (preferably in Yiddish) - if he tells you anything similar to what he told others - it will be that this matter is 'for the rabbonim to deal with'. At this stage, I would advise all, both pro and anti, to be quiet, and wait and see. Victims should obviously continue to seek out the appropriate channels for reporting this man's crimes.

Sorry, I had intended to write 'deny the allegations'.

Brian - I'm not asking you to believe anything, but just ask yourself why not a single rov outside of the Halpern family will defend him or deny that there are allegations

Posted by: Uri | October 17, 2012 at 09:09 AM


1. On what basis do you make this claim? Have the allegations been put to many other rabbonim for their opinion?

2. Even if they have been, it is likely the others will not wish to comment at all fearing any possible legal entanglement or fearing that even an endorsement of him will be misrepresented when repeated

Following from which i would advise you to be careful not to express anything that could end you in hot water, legally speaking

Many know plenty. Thank you for your concern, but as others have said, libel is the least of the legal issues here. I have no problem announcing that CH is guilty, because I know he is and I have witnesses to prove it.

Many know plenty. Thank you for your concern, but as others have said, libel is the least of the legal issues here. I have no problem announcing that CH is guilty, because I know he is and I have witnesses to prove it.

Posted by: Uri | October 17, 2012 at 09:25 AM

Would you mind elaborating what you know from your witnesses that he is guilty of.

No chance. As I said, let's all wait a few weeks. Discussion over.

brian is from the JC

what about dayan abrahams texting dirty text messages to married women???? there is evidence of the text message!!!

what about dayan abrahams texting dirty text messages to married women???? there is evidence of the text message!!!

Posted by: frumer | October 17, 2012 at 03:12 PM

omg......but hes still at the US how is this even possible?

frumer

What a pathetic and childish accusation.

'Ooh you're saying our Rabbi is bad so here is some BS about your Rabbi to balance it out'

Moron.

So the whole story has died completely due to lack of any substantiated evidence.

How typical.

I will end with a short blessing; may hashem repay all involved (for and against) what they deserve.

So I hear the Rabbi is giving out a new book called "50 Shades of Red"

A meeting has been called for this evening to take place at Dayan Ehrentreu’s house. All NW London Rabbonim have been invited.

The purpose of the meeting is to agree a unified position and guidance Rabbonim should give their community about the current situation.

People doubting the veracity of the accusations should discuss the matter with their Rov.

At the request of Rabbonim, a Jewish West End based lawyer has and is taking affidavits from women who have come forward, and is ensuring them absolute anonymity.

So an anonymous Jewish Harley Steet lawyer is getting involved. Well he isnt really there are not that many there.
How are the women to know who he is without being told by these rabbonim which many are loath to talk to. Do they have to try all of them. Why not give us better names of the rabbonim who agree to be contacted if there are any. Or is it R Ehrentreu, who must be dancing away to high heaven, that his main eruv opponent has now 'fallen'. He will be really gloating at this supposed meeting.
Agree a unified position. That means agree a position which isnt the truth. Since for the truth one needs no agreement.
Again from women who 'have' come forward. If the allegations are true and he was seeing so many there must very many who have not come forward. Why not ask them as well.

Dovid go worship your false idol - your wayward and morally bankrupt rabbi.

Dayan erenthrau? Who remembers the story with dayan lichtenshtein & maccaba? Dayan errnthrau jumped on that story too & lost out big time

wake up people!!
rabbis are human beings just like me and you and can get up to any sin just like me and you, honestly, you can not trust no one around you even your rabbi, as you just never know what people really are all about. scary world!!!

Hi, Final Justice here....

It's about time people stop talking and actually put someone in jail for their evil ways and crimes against children and vulnerable women.

These people that I would like to mention are names that have been branded about in all sorts of blogs and forums but as of yet these people roam around free.

What hurts the most is that the rabonnim in GG, SH and Manchester were made aware of these 2 particular names over 15 years ago and here we are, still today talking about rumours and insinuation.

Please please let's get down to business, lets collaborate, bring the evidence and put these people away.

Because nothing was done 15 years ago, the community have let these people carry on in their positions only to carry on abusing children right through. What a double tragedy!!

It will only take 2 or 3 people to make independent, simultaneous allegations and we are guaranteed they will be eating Hermolis meals at HM's pleasure.

Used to be HEAD of Pirchim Camp, - nice, very convenient,!

Child psychologist, NIIIIICE, extremely convenient!

governor of a school, even better!

And that was just in his spare time...... But his main job was.... Guess what?? Selling children's clothes.. Convenient enough ??? Up to ages 14. suites and clothes.

As for the other scallywag; so called 'Rabbi in a school' in Manchester, he was a thug growing up with a string of child abuse allegations behind him, completely off 'frumkeit'' and the school were in fact called warning the headmaster of the school of their so called 'rabbi'..... Ribono Shel Olom !!!! 15 years later we are still hearing fresh abuse allegations!!!! When will this stop??

This is a son of a prominent Dayan, and when his father was approached of his sons child abuse, he, amongst most of the rabonnim in SH decided to victimise the victims rather than sorting out the perpetrators.

These rabonnim have blood on their hands, because they had the opportunity to put a stop to crimes against innocent children and they didn't and are still not!!

For a religion that preaches the highest level of morality where u can't even accept a drink directly off your wife if she is a Nidah and the 'Bris Bein Habsorim' - where the highest level if sexual rules are preached as an integral part of Judaism - how, oh how can people on a Rabbinical level either perpetrate or protect perpetrators who carry out crimes against morality which is the most integral part of our religion?? Which gives it the 'double bubble effect' not only victims receive no justice but the perpetrators are left free to carry on and in some cases spanning 40 years of abuse which probably equates to abused children in triple figures.

This is our in house holocaust which is so out of control, religious so called rabbis in power are committing sexual crimes against vulnerable women with no shame, fear or conscience that is the evolution of doing NOTHING against the despicable evil criminals 'ERUV RAV'

As a community we are ALL responsible and by saying or doing nothing particularly when you are in a position of power to do something, makes you guilty as charged.

Help me to help them bring final justice to the unspoken voices of our 'heilige kinderlach.

May hashem give us the strength, the knowledge and the power to succeed on our final justice mission.

Enough is enough.

Final Justice. (FJ)

Chaim Halpern is in very deep trouble indeed. If he has any sense he will leave the country now, before things get sticky, although I would much rather he stayed, as it will be far more interesting. I've been looking forward to this for a long time. Your time is up, you filthy rosho.

How many of the commenters on here attended the anti-Internet rally in London?

Or don't blogs count?

this guy moishe halpern needs to be bought down, he is an absolute massive bully and not one member in the community likes this horrible arrogant bully. please u and your brother find other people to bully not us.

we need as many people as possible to write there opinion about moshe halpern! this man shames people in his shul in public and says nasty comments. what type of rabbi are you??????? you are an absolute bully and a burning hot hell is waiting for you. one day this man will get a serious beating if he is not careful

Enough is enough.
Final Justice. (FJ)
You are 100 % spot on

The fact are story’s of CH have been floating around for many years finally three local Rabbonim presented a file to a very big Rov in eretz yisroel and this Rov had suggested that the Local Rabbonim go back to London to Keddassia and request that CH be told to leave town ore there is a big possibility that this file will go to Police

Rav Padwa has asked CH not to attend any Keddassia meetings

We have heard conflicting story’s of a woman that has by-polar, a women from sh jalousie Rabbonim all of which are total rubbish

The facts are to date there are five ladys and yes one from SH that only came forward after the story broke but the file is not just the women it is also the fact that CH has been protecting perverts, rapists, child abusers for many years and some he even put in positions around and involving children

For example one of these child abusers that was being blackmailed and paid over many years and all the Keddassia Rabbonim knew about CH would still send children with home problems to the abuser for counselling.

May H.K.B.H forgive me but CH has ruined many upon many yidishe kinder and must be stopped at all cost

Are you talking about AS?

I am

He's a child abuser?
You got evidence to back up your claim?

only a guilty man pays blackmail

Who is he paying blackmail to?
Initials please!

ask CH he knows as he knows victims that went to him many years ago

People seem to think the RSW is the final halachic authority on all matters in NW London. RGK has always been on the fringes. Own kashrus and the like. The whole london seems to have forgotton hilchos loshen hora which encompasses motzi shem ra. Amazing how one little rumour can blossom into this'supposed' scandal. The Rov in question is not going anywhere - he has a got a loyal kehillo and people who actually know him reliase that it is a complete fabrication..... Ans anyone who heard from the Rov and that Rov about this matter just remember that those rabonim cou;ld just have been easily misled. I know for a fact that two of the names 'supposed victims' being bandied around have never even been to see that Rov. Who knows which other rumours are made up.

so you 'know for a fact'? so what about the fact that 3 of the 'supposed victims' have signed affidavits.... he'll be running when the police knock on his door,

Lets wait and see - he'll be here in a week, month and a year and iyH for many years afterwards helping people. giving daf yomi, halacha shiurim, and leading his kehilla meychayil ad choyil.

Mashgiach - I hope and pray you are right however I'm not so sure you are ........

Re: a crying parent.
So why is there no article on this website about him?

what about this moshe halpern??? why is he being let free??? he is the worst of the lot

what a monster

i wish the police got involved with Dovid Dunner from pardes house, this man has abused so many inocent children. he has killed off so many yidishe neshomas.
this guy beta me for no reason!!! how dare you???? u horrible little bully!!! i advice u to stand down NOW or things will be taken further!!!
all u doo all day is sit and watch the camera all day and try to catch boys out.
if i had any agression i would come round to your house and beat u so badly, but i am not that type of person.

if you have sufferd from this little monster, please do come forward and write in.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!

Anon,
The AS story was over 15 years ago, the people that were blackmailing him have grown up and unfortunately not frum any more due to that story, however I could tell you more abusers, rapists and wife beaters that CH dos stand by and right now I know people suffering because CH refused to help victims and supported abusers, I could tell you where CH was and still is 100% against hallocho and all poskim why due to money, I could go on and on personally I believe that this community deserves Rabbonim like CH because that’s all you deserve

some ppl from sh who wanted to be non frum in gg who were kicked out of bes shmuel are upset at rav moshe? rav moshe is an amazing rov, & gaining more prominence among his members, no wonder he has people who hate him!

i learned in pardes, rabbi dunner is an amazing mechanech

Yosef-london
I am not from London but I was in gg over chagim and people came in the shul were I was davening saying how moishe halpern was rued and horrible to people, were I come from you very very rarely hear any bad word about a Rov but for some reason London seems to have a lot of bad talk on Rabbis and mostly on the Halperns, could some one tell me why if they are so good as some of you seem to believe.

no such thing that ppl dont talk against rabbonim, sadly i have heard it everywhere

the halperns are a powerful family, with shuls & mosdos, and yes even rav chuna admits he looks out for his kids, but the fact is they built the heimish yiddishkeit in gg, or at least a large part of it

Moishe Halpern is a disgusting animal. He is the source of all machlokes - whether the eruv or anything else. He threatened rabbonim that decided to deal with his sex molester brother. He turns the Torah into mafia-ism. Thank goodness that by the time his brother is behind bars (or in Israel) and his father has passed me'oh ve'esrim, there will be no chance that this lame excuse for a human being will have any hashpo'oh here whatsoever, as everyone outside his shul (choshuver rabbonim included) realises what a shtick drek he is.

From what I heard, R Moshe tells people off for talking in davening. So those people get upset. But he is only upholding the ShA "ga'arim bo "

Alex - you're correct. Now is the opportunity to finally rid NW London of this Mafia family

dont ever give moshe halpern the name reb!!! he is an animal and a big bul guyvoh

DEAR KLUL YISROEL!!! THE REASONS WHY MOSIACH IS SADLY NOT WITH US YET IS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE MOSHE HALPERN! HOW CAN A YID TELL OTHER YIDEN THAT THEY ARE NOT WELCOME TO DAVEN IN A SHUL????? EVERY JEW IS SO SPECIAL BUT THEY SINGLE PEOPLE OUT AND DISTANCE US JEWS AWAY AS IF THEY ARE SOMETHING MORE SPECIAL. WE NEED MOSHIACH, BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE SUCH PEOPLE AROUND MOSHIACH WILL NOT COME.

Reb Moshe Halpern is actually a big onov. When it came to the NW London asifa, he didn't sit on the Dais although all other rabbonim did. Even at the Daf Yomi Siyum he didn't sir on the Dais thigh anyone called Rabbi did.

He does what he thinks is right and, providing his father agrees with him, isn't scared to stand up for what he believes in. This could be the Eruv g where he is a boki, having learnt Eruvin with R' Mottel Eisner for years) or it could be telling gevirim in his shill to stop speaking.
He isn't the most tactful and he doesn't go about everything the right way, but he does what he thinks is right, not what will make him popular.

This has suddenly become a forum for slander against anyone who has a vendetta against any Rov or person in authority or the like.

Amazing.

Let's dredge up every past misdeed of any person posting on this site. I assure you that will lead to a heck of lot more interesting reading.

Shmarya please close this down.
Enough is Enough.

Shimon - Moshe Halpern's eruv mischief was the cause of the biggest machlokes in our kehillo's history and was totally hypocritical and unwarranted. Besides for the fact that with all their bekius they could do nothing more than plagiarise from the 'Eizehu Reshus Horabbim' bikhel (see here: http://eruvonline.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/critical-analysis-of-london-anti-eruv_24.html), his own brother publicly supported a very similar eruv (and one that was actually condemned by R. Moshe Feinstein), whereas the only major posek to directly address the NW London eruv - the Tzitz Eliezer - came out in support of it. He is not an onov - he is a mecharcher riv ve'gas ruach.

totally agree with bob. spot on

Bob, firstly the Eruv when originally built was clearly not l'katchila as proven by the LBD bringing in experts from Israel to change it. It was probably ok then for the US congregation but not for the Chareidim who now use it.
MH wasn't the main person behind banning the Eruv. That was PR. PR is anti eruv cos he doesn't want the socialising, street football etc that an eruv would bring. MH was just the one making a noise about it

OK whatever, I don't want to turn this into an eruv debate. R. PR is a distinguished talmid chochom, and unlike some of the others involved, as much as I support the opposing side, at least he was sincerely trying to be marbeh kvod shomayim. I would have proffered he not mix in halocho if his opinion was hashkofo, but this is all not really relevant anymore.

Just note that in MH's infamous 'public letter' he criticised the London eruv rabbonim for making an eruv in a democratic country as one cannot do sechiras reshus there, when there are countless eruvin in democratic countries all over the world and his own family strongly support the BP eruv - I think American is also a democracy.

The same goes for his point about not making an eruv in any large city. Besides for the fact that his father had already addressed this point in his teshuva in Sdeh Elchonon (although apparently he changed his mind later for some reason), what does he say about the fact that his brother signed on the kol korei announcing the Boro Park eruv just three years earlier - smack bang in the middle of Brooklyn with two and a half million people?

Whatever, as you said this is not really important and there is no reason to bring up old fights. The important thing is that the current issue has nothing to do with eruvin, which should have no bearing on how the subject of this thread is dealt with.

GUARD YOUR TONGUE. If this happened - he will be punished severely in many ways. If this was a slander or blackmailing - he will have total Mechilas Avonos.

However, all of us, who were not nominated to judge and deal with it and bring news, assumptions, allegations or even guesses, are falling into the Loshon Hora trap, regardless whether this happened or not.

Mind you, Loshon Hora is an Averia D'oraisa not less than adultery or molestation.

I find this a challenge for our community to guard our tongue and keep quiet until things will clear up. We ought to put the fire of Loshon Hora and Machloikes down and let the bodies who are in charge to do their job.

John - Are you mad? Loshon hora / molestation? I think your ridiculous comment speaks for itself. The problem is that the bodies in charge are not doing their jobs. They know Chaim Halpern is guilty, and will not affirm his innocence, but they lack the guts to do anything about it. Now it is only a couple of brave rabbonim who are willing to state the truth while everyone else pretends nothing has happened. The Union could well fall over this - I pray to Hashem that the police are reading this. CHAIM HALPERN IS A SERIAL MOLESTER - HOW CAN YOU LET HIM BE IN CHARGE OF LITTLE GIRLS IN A SCHOOL??

I am considering outing the name of the lawyer involved if action is not taken soon. I have spoken to a journalist from the national press, and he is very interested in this story. Kedassia - I will bring down your rotten house of evil if you do not deal with this man. Padwa, Frand - you have been warned.

I understand the police are aware of the allegations. Also chaim halpern knows they are aware. that’s why he has changed his mobile and laptop in the last few days. Padwa is worried that the UOHC has now lost golders green and respect around the world


i hope the police also check out alex strom

I am not the poster duvid.
I suppose the national press is very interested. But what can you tell him more than whats written here.
Why is it such a great secret who the lawyer is. Do you work for him. I have already guessed, its most likely a harley street one.
They have lost GG long ago when they lost frohwein. Its only the older rabbonim roberts and e halpern that keep them in.
And roberts can jump ship anytime to the feds. He has more in common with them. Now enfield is full up, the union has nothing to offer to make them stay.

I am not the poster duvid.
I suppose the national press is very interested. But what can you tell him more than whats written here.
Why is it such a great secret who the lawyer is. Do you work for him. I have already guessed, its most likely a harley street one.
They have lost GG long ago when they lost frohwein. Its only the older rabbonim roberts and e halpern that keep them in.
And roberts can jump ship anytime to the feds. He has more in common with them. Now enfield is full up, the union has nothing to offer to make them stay.

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