Chabad Man On Trial For Child Sex Abuse, Rape, Sexual Assault

A haredi man, Menachem Mendel Levy, 40, is on trial in London on eight counts of child sexual abuse, rape and sexual assault of a young woman. Three of those charges are for indecent assault against the woman when she was a minor.

 

Haredi Man On Trial For Child Sex Abuse, Rape, Sexual Assault
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

The (London) Jewish Chronicle reports that a haredi man, Menachem Mendel Levy, 40, is on trial in London on eight counts of child sexual abuse, rape and sexual assault of a young woman. Three of those charges are for indecent assault against the woman when she was a minor.
 
The abuse allegedly started when the girl was 14 and continued until she was 21. The abuse allegedly started with touching and fondling and escalated until it involved rape.

The victim “did not complain during that period, because in essence she thought she was to blame. This was a belief and conviction rooted in her upbringing in north London and the Orthodox Jewish community,” the prosecutor reportedly said. Levy exploited her naivety and fears, he said, telling the woman that she would be the one in trouble if she told anyone in the community or called police.

The prosecutor noted that Levy’s defense would claim that after the girl turned 16, and following Levy’s marriage to someone else, Levy “had consensual sexual intercourse with her on a number of occasions. He will deny any sexual contact with her before she was 16, but will say that he and she had an affair after she turned 16.”

But, the prosecutor said, the truth is far different than that.

The victim resisted his sexual overtures on some occasions. But on other occasions she submitted “with a sense of powerlessness.” But she never consented.

It was only later, when she was overseas and saw a TV program about sexual abuse, that she understood the magnitude of what happened to her, the prosecutor reportedly said. When she came back home to Britain in 2006, she told her parents. Some time after that she told rabbis in her community.

Two years ago, the alleged victim sent a letter to Levy that detailed the pain his actions had caused her. In part, it reportedly reads,

“You smouldered and suffocated my soul… stole my education… and virginity. You now question what you can do to make it go away… It will never go away. I cannot buy the things you stole from me.”

The letter went on to suggest that he should apologize to her and reimburse her parents for the counseling and therapy she had undergone.

“If an apology had been forthcoming and resolution possible within the community, she would not have gone to the police,” the prosecutor said.

During videotaped questioning by police that was played to the jury, she said she had been used “like a utensil” by Levy and hated what happened.

At one point during the abuse, the alleged victim started cutting herself with a razor.

“[It was] the only way I could get rid of the pain building up inside me,” she said.

When asked why she had taken so long to call police, she replied that “in the religious Jewish world, you don’t call the police for anything unless someone is murdering someone or stealing.”

When she consulted haredi rabbis, “they basically told me there was nothing they could do; they didn’t know what to do. They all started coming up with their bull**** excuses.”

When repeatedly questioned by Levy’s attorney about why she had not told anyone about the abuse, the victim described herself as having been “very naive” in those days and said that “in hindsight, if I had known how wrong what he was doing really was, I would have said something.”

During cross-examination, she was repeatedly accused of lying, of destroying evidence and of fabricating the story by Levy’s attorney. To Jewish Chronicle reports that the woman’s most frequent response to those allegations was “No.”

The trial continues.

Update 11-1-2012 – Hung jury, mistrial, possible new trial in May 2013.

Comments

[yosef-london]

wow! shmarya you are a liar!

read the article from the jc:

The letter went on to suggest that he should apologise to her and reimburse her parents for the counselling and therapy she had undergone.

why did you take the part about money out?

very simple. this case is not what it seems at all. there was no rape. and we all hope that he will be acquitted on all accounts, and the woman and her family can finally shut up with all the hate they spew within the community

[The Revolution Will be Televised]

yosef-london, your above unbelievable comments and comments past would have me believe one of two things:

1: You are an enabler, and you'll go out of your way to protect anyone accused of abusing or sexual assaulting minors.

2. You're just plain stupid.

The part about money does not change the facts as to whether this girl was systematically abused - or in your warped mind, when money is involved this all becomes ok?

[yosef-london]

david, you mean if he would not be haredi then this whole case would not exist, as most 14-15 yr olds are already sexually active...

[soso]

Yosef-London:

He is an outwardly religious man, but still he admits to having had an extramarital affair with a 16-year old.

Is that ok by your standarts?

[yosef-london]

so if i was to have no kippa or any notion of being religious, am i allowed to have affairs?

i met shmarya years ago b4 he had this blog and argued about many points and proved he was liar then, amazing how he can post from the jc and not report it all, as it looks bad for the supposed victim

[soso]

If you have an affair and pretend to be religious, you are a hypocrite, because your religion forbids you to have extramarital sex and to have sex with a nida (and I suppose she did not go to the mikwa).

sex with a nida is karet. So this alone would suffice to excommunicate him, although it is not a criminal offense.

[yosef-london]

already you are starting to understand that this is not criminal, now explain the need to excommunicate for sleeping with a nida, we would have to excommunicate many jews if we would follow your law!

even religious looking people have temptations, the question is do you act on it or not, and if you do act on it, do you change or act again?

[No_Light]

Yosef - you are disgusting. I hope your wife and children, and any sisters, and nieces and nephews you may have, know that you side with rapists and paedophiles and blame raped children for the pain inflicted on them.

David - if you're not pig-yosef's sockpuppet, you too are a shoteh of the highest order, and your repugnant views should be tattooed on your forehead.

Hypocrite
Amoral
Rapist
Enabling
Denialist
Imbeciles.

[Isa]

Not too long ago
A Texas jury gave a child rapist 99 years With parole he will be out in 49.5 years.

Than convinced his accomplices to plead guilty and they all got 30 years

This yosef-london is a real pig, no amount of therapy will fix the girl

[Jeff]

The letter went on to suggest that he should apologise to her and reimburse her parents for the counselling and therapy she had undergone.

why did you take the part about money out?

I don't understand. Shmarya did include that part; it's right there - but what does that mean in your mind? Because she's asking for compensation, you think it proves she consented?

the woman and her family can finally shut up with all the hate they spew within the community

So typical. Just keep the facade going of a happy, carefree community; pretend everything is okay. It doesn't matter that a life was destroyed; what really matters is that she's airing your dirty laundry in public. That moseret!

[Foreigner]

yosef-london
the JC never ever prints the good or positive stuff that is ever mentioned in a court and in fact you yes you have spoken total Loshon Horah in the past from an article you read in the JC, But you are forgiven as you don't know any facts then and once again
and maybe just maybe this family as you put it are spewing the truth due to Rabbonim not willing to help
And maybe c’v your sister or daughter might be raped by someone and then this person becomes a ball-tshuvah once again another person using the torah and g’d to cover his wrong doing

Curiosity, How long have you actually known the accused ??????
and due to the presure and people like you this family is totally torn apart

[Londoner]

This took place 20 years ago, Mendy is a full on Lubavitcher guy who dropped out of religion in his teens, he only became frum again 15 years ago.
In the past 10 years he has become very wealthy, so when her extortion failed, she tries to get revenge.

[Jeff]

Oy, nebech! She's spreading loshon hora about an ehrliche yid! He must be innocent; he gives money to yeshivot! First she entices him, then she goes after him for money! That curveh!

[SHille]

To clarify
This family were getting financial help from a tzedoko in SH
For food and bills they felt they had to tell us where all the money is going it was actually us (the tzedoko) that suggested he should pay and not tzedoko gelt

[yosef-london]

sorry, misread over here

& i agree the jc never prints positive stuff, also about the alleged rapist nothing positive was printed

trust me i know enough & the reason this family is totally torn apart is nothing to to with mr levy

[dov1]

I happen to know the family quite well.
As you say he dropped out of religion. His father is a teacher in chabad.
His mother from belzer chasidim.
Now why do so many 'drop ou' of the chabad school. Because both the boys and girls schools are plainly rotten to the core.

[simple jew]

B"H

How old was Levy when this allegedly happened? Someone posted he was a teenager. Is that true?

Shmarya - this girl you believe even though she is Lubavitch? I thought you don't trust Lubavitchers. Oh you do trust them if tey are saying somethin agaist another Lubavitcher.

[jancsipista]

yosef-london --Shmarya must be telling the truth or else you wouldnt be so hungup on what he is writing,i know the truth really really hurts,yosef youre giving youreself away with youre fixation on this cSE SHAME ON YOU

[Shmarya]

How old was Levy when this allegedly happened? Someone posted he was a teenager. Is that true?

Shmarya - this girl you believe even though she is Lubavitch? I thought you don't trust Lubavitchers. Oh you do trust them if tey are saying somethin agaist another Lubavitcher.

Posted by: simple jew | October 26, 2012 at 07:57 AM

Idiot.

He's 40 now and more than 10 years older than the girl.

That means if the abuse started when the girl was 14, Levy was in his mid-20s then.

[dov1]

Who knows what wife swapping goes on in their london headquarters. The lub chigwell rabbi from their best families, was also caught at it.
They call themselves chasidim. What a misnomer. They are completely michuts lamachne from the london chareidim. They mix all the time with their women (not just their own) and call them all by their first names.
They wont allow the 'meshichistim' to join the kehilla, otherwise they will 'bolt'. What is Padwa so scared of let them who needs them.
There are two of every chassidus all part of the kehilla today and no other one forces the other out.

[Rebitzman]

Menachem Mendel Levy?

I assume he's Satmar? ;)

[simple jew]

B"H

Shmarya

Genius.

Explain your math based on the article you copied or did you use nevuah to divine this.

Londoner says the abuse was over 20 years ago.

[Ex Londoner]

@ dov1
"They call themselves chasidim. What a misnomer. They are completely michuts lamachne from the london chareidim. They mix all the time with their women (not just their own) and call them all by their first names."
Relax brother, you can perhaps mention 2 or 3 scandals involving the Chabad UK community over the past 20 years, I can list 10’s of cases involving your beloved “london chareidim” community and what they get up to with each other’s wives and going with prostitutes etc, so don’t get me started.
One just needs to read back one week on this very blog to read about what’s going on with one of the most “coshever” rabbonim in the “london chareidim” community and how that scandal is being covered up by your other “coshever” rabbonim!
Just some perceptive on the Levy case:
1, He claims he was 21 and she was 16 at the time of their liaisons, entirely legal in the UK.
2, Her father was arrested for setting up a robbery at the jewelry firm he was working for in Ireland (whilst having a jolly old time with a mistress over there with his family safely back home in London), he could have received 9 years in jail but the Kehilla paid for top lawyers and flew to Ireland to testify on his behalf that he was a “fallen man”, the judge let him off with a rap over his knuckles.
3, it was only after her father became destitute after he lost his job (well no surprise they fired him after he tried tom rob them…)and had to spend all their savings on his legal troubles that she concocted these allegations to try and extort money from the recently wealthy Mr. Levy, where were the claims befor he became a millioner?
4, whilst Mendy Levy was no saint in his younger teenage years, his past 15 years have been exemplary and he is a very charitable man. This does not excuse any illegality, but what he did was not illegal, it was immoral (from a religious point of view) so why are you bringing up all this muck from his sinful past?
5, and just for you Shmaya, the girls grandmother is a wacked out mishichist…

[dov1]

So he gave a sefer torah to the lubs a few weeks ago. What a kaparah.

[simple jew]

B"H

Shmarya believes lubavitcher mischist like its (lehavdil) gospel when they say something negative about another lubavitcher.

[Shmarya]

Genius.

Explain your math based on the article you copied or did you use nevuah to divine this.

Londoner says the abuse was over 20 years ago.

Posted by: simple jew | October 26, 2012 at 09:12 AM

The oh so simple troll has tried to add. How touching.

Process, asshole.

Even if Londoner is correct, he was at least six years older than her.

So when she was 14, he was 20.

That's called statutory rape in almost every jurisdiction in the civilized world.

But you are a simpleton, a cretinous clod of man deeply immersed a cult and loving every minute of it, happy that you don't have to really think for yourself and that you can cede all your important decisions to it.

So, as always, none of these facts will make any difference to you.

[Shmarya]

Just some perceptive on the Levy case:
1, He claims he was 21 and she was 16 at the time of their liaisons, entirely legal in the UK.
2, Her father was arrested for setting up a robbery at the jewelry firm he was working for in Ireland (whilst having a jolly old time with a mistress over there with his family safely back home in London), he could have received 9 years in jail but the Kehilla paid for top lawyers and flew to Ireland to testify on his behalf that he was a “fallen man”, the judge let him off with a rap over his knuckles.
3, it was only after her father became destitute after he lost his job (well no surprise they fired him after he tried tom rob them…)and had to spend all their savings on his legal troubles that she concocted these allegations to try and extort money from the recently wealthy Mr. Levy, where were the claims befor he became a millioner?
4, whilst Mendy Levy was no saint in his younger teenage years, his past 15 years have been exemplary and he is a very charitable man. This does not excuse any illegality, but what he did was not illegal, it was immoral (from a religious point of view) so why are you bringing up all this muck from his sinful past?
5, and just for you Shmaya, the girls grandmother is a wacked out mishichist…

Posted by: Ex Londoner | October 26, 2012 at 09:13 AM

Please.

I've heard rapists tell police that their victims "wanted it" and pedophiles claim that three year olds "seduced them."

And I've heard a ton of haredim claim that the adult camp counselor, youth group leader, teacher or rabbi did nothing wrong because the victim was bar mitzvahed and therefore a man (or 12 1/2 and therefore a woman).

Criminals always have excuses, and cult members like you most always believe them.

But in the real world, rapists like this frequently are convicted, because they're frequently guilty.

Toddle off.

[Alex]

Nu let's see what the court says. Interesting that Chaim Halpern (who is a real life molester) is involved.

[Ex Londoner]

Shmarya, if a 21 year old sleeps with a 16 year old it is not considered rape in the UK.

This relationship was going on for years and everyone in Lubavitch on SH knew about it at the time but no one could stop it because both of them were both on the fringes of the community and wouldn't listen to anyone.

There are cases were a women cry's rape after the fact (and legally, if she was 16, then this accuser is/was a women), I will name a few off the top of my head; Jane Roe of roe versus wade supreme court fame, Tawana Brawley, the accuser in the duke lacrosse team case, the recent case in CH where a 21 year old girl claimed that 4 black guys serially raped her over years, they went to jail and were only recently released when she admitted that it was all consensual.

This is not to say that Mendy Levy is innocent of what she is claiming. If indeed they had a relationship when she was 14 then that is statutory rape and he deserves to go to jail, but if she was 16 and it went on for 5 years, it was an entirely legal consensual relationship.

Being that I lived in SH at the time and I know both parties in this case, I am just trying to bring some perspective now that this is public.

[Ex Londoner]

An additional point, it is fascinating to me that she only went to the cops after she failed in extorting money from him.

[Simple Jew]

B"H

Shmarya -- so you admit defacto you made up the ages. But of course instead of apologizing you insult me.

I don't know if Londoner knows the facts but he says LEVY WAS A TEENAGER when this started. Not a 20 year old.

I know in your yellow journalism 101 class they teach you to use tactics like saying someone was 20 when they may have been 19. Because 20 sounds so much older.

If anyone knows her current age we can figure out atleast the difference.

For the record I am not in any way defending a relationship between a 14 yr old and a 19 or 20 or whatever year old.

If her parents were aware at the time they should have done more to intervene and have him prosecuted at that time.

Sad.

[Shmarya]

Posted by: Simple Jew | October 26, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Maybe I should just address you as "tree stump."

I did not "admit" that the prick known as Ex Londoner is right – because he isn't.

What I said was that even if he was right, when she was 14, he was 20.

That's statutory rape.

Now toddle off an molt, asshole.

[Ex Londoner]

"What I said was that even if he was right, when she was 14, he was 20.

That's statutory rape."

No argument from me on that point, just saying that there is more to the story and he may very well be innocent.

[ah-pee-chorus]

Three of those charges are for indecent assault against the woman when she was a minor.

i assume the court wouldnt file and go to trial on these charges if they didnt have some external corroborating evidence that she was in fact a legal minor when the relationship began.

as far as the money goes:

its possible she was a willing participant, though in the eyes of the law her consent is meaningless until shes sixteen. if she was later troubled by the affair her parents might have spent lots of money on psychological counseling and therapy. the alleged may have had no money at the time and the family wanted it kept secret to protect their daughter. now, however, if they have no money and they know that the alleged has become wealthy, they feel he should reimburse them for what theyve spent. that doesnt seem unreasonable and isnt extortion. when he refuses and they get no satisfaction from the community they decide to notify the police. none of this makes the guy innocent.
i'm not saying this is what happened but its highly plausible and shows that the family's attempt to have him pay doesnt mean she's lying and isnt extortion.

[Loni]

Haredi Man On Trial For Child Sex Abuse, Rape, Sexual Assault

I wonder if he can use this as a defense - he raped because he was brought up haredi. After all if he were secular or gentile he would not have raped or committed a crime so, like an insanity defense, he was afflicted with haredism and was not responsible for what he did.

Posted by: david | October 26, 2012 at 05:13 AM

No, the defense would be an insanity defense since he must be insane to be a haredi!

[No more abuse]

Also Hugh Kimura another pedophile man and forex trader wanted by FBI owner of tradingheroes.com & truelivingmedia.com webmaster acoused of child pornography distribution. Be cauton. Look here: http://hughkimura.wordpress.com

[In the know!]

Mendy Levy is a FAMOUS scumbag. All his friends and acquintences know this and would ALL agree that he did this rape.

Mendy famously has had a child/children out of wedlock, prior to marriage, living in a variety of places.

Mendy is as filthy a human being as there is. He is a liar, a scammer, an abusive person and a rapist. No doubt in my mind at all.

[Londoner]

To In the know!
"Mendy famously has had a child/children out of wedlock, prior to marriage, living in a variety of places"

You are correct, he was 18 at the time and the girl was 17, whats illegal about that?

[Sarek]

To all those defending the rapist: Welcome to the U.S. in 1900 (great time machine you just stepped out of), or Pakistan in 2012.

Now that you're in that great company, try watching an episode of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit. You might learn that men are not allowed to do whatever they want. I know it must seem odd to you that this is no longer allowed: that a woman who is raped is to blame or that the man who raped her was lured on by her or defending the family honor or practicing noblesse oblige or some other happy horseshit.

[No_Light]

Ex-Londoner (current moron):

he is a very charitable man

So fucking what? I have two words for you-

JIMMY SAVILE

Being charitable doesn't get you "free crime" points, I can't mug a pensioner, smother a baby, drive into the side of a house, or kick a Haredi scumbag rapist right between the eyes, just because I've done loads of charitable and voluntary work.

Simpleton Jew-

How do you breathe and type at the same time without passing out from the sheer mental effort?

B"H B"H B"H B"H. that you have a refuah shleima from your obviously devastating brain injury. B"H B"H B"H!!!

[He who pays the piper]

Just a few words of warning for those who think that they will succeed in covering up Chaim Halpern's crimes, and to Chaim himself: we are onto you, and we mean business. Don't think that you will outsmart the police by changing your phone and your computer.

Rav Padwa, your pathetic excuses would be laughable were their results not so tragic.

Gavriel Schleider, don't think your tricks are going to work here. You are playing a very risky game, and I'm surprised your boss is allowing you to gamble with his reputation in this way. There are simply too many victims and they are not going to buy into the phony 'objectivity' that your kangaroo court is claiming, with you on Chaim Halpern's payroll, some therapist under Kedassia's thumb and Padwa already admitting that he won't take serious action. Also, don't be lured into believing that your actions are escaping police scrutiny - they are paying very close attention to what is going on here, and don't think they are going to let this go in a hurry.

To Chaim, if you're reading this - you must have realised that your crimes would catch up with you one day, but you have at least managed to make the most of it while you were able.

And yes, those who wrote in Manchester all those years ago 'Chodosh ossur min hatorah', with 'Chodosh' roshei teivos 'Chaim doiver shekorim' were onto something, and yes, don't think your victims from back then have been forgotten either. You had your chance to quit while you were ahead, but you arrogantly refused to take it, so now you must face the music.

Rav Padwa - it is such a shame that with your short-sightedness and abysmal handling of the situation you are aggravating the problems rather than solving them.

A final note to the victims - don't be fooled into thinking that Kedassia and its machers have any desire to 'get to the bottom of this' and 'do the right thing'. They could not be more conflicted in their interests here and keeping up appearances and protecting their own will always come before bringing abuse to light and dealing with its perpetrators, especially when that perpetrator is the ultimate insider. There are enough of you, and you will find support from within and without for your courageous battle.

[SHille]

the girl was 14 he was 28
if I remember correctly at the time he had a child out of wedlock
when all in Lubavitch through him out this family were the only ones to take him in now that he has money all in Lubavitch call him Reb mendy hypocrites

[know your]

Just for the record She was 14 mendy was 27

[believe]

he was not frum at that time
BT is a "new person", means he didn;t do anything

[Londoner]

@ No_Light, SHille and know your

He claims that she was 16 at the time, that’s why there is a court case. This is a case of he said, she said, you should wait till there is verdict before labeling him a “rapist” (or innocent for that matter).

Actually he became “Reb Mendel” when he stared growing his beard again and put on a Kapota, before he started making money.

I only mentioned that he is a charitable guy to point out that he is a changed man since his wild 20s, it happens, people do change.

[leah from the hill]

Its so sad how people insult each other and say such horrific things without having a clue what the real facts are.

1) The fact that he had a child out of wedlock with a girlfriend many many years ago when he was not frum does not mean he's a peodephile, rapist etc, all it means is that he was not frum at that time.

2)If you read this article correctly "MENDY LEVY HAS NOT ADMITTED TO ANY OF THE ABOVE LIES" The article has been written quite smartly by her lawyer to make it sound like he has admitted to her claims. However he has not admitted to any of it because it is plainly not true.

3) I am not interested in going into a whole Lashon Hora about this girl YEHUDIS and her family,and believe me there is so much to say.. for I see no point, but I will explain a little background to those who think they're in the know. But if anyone knows them, you know them enough to know they are not erliche, honest people. Her father Menachem stole from his own work and got jailed in Ireland, then after much help from the community to get him out, he went and cheated on his wife Linda with a polish girl named "Tony" and then the parents got separated. The mother then got her own apt with a friend and told all the kids to go and get jobs and their own apts and 'fend for themselves.' I ask you which mother does that to her own children especially when they are young? There is also depression and psychological problems in this family, the reason I am making this known is for you to understand why sadly they may have made all these lies etc.

Besides there were many rumours they spread before this one, to name only a couple of these terrible lies 1) "Mendy killed his sister Chayala o"h who died at 17 from epelepsia and 2) how he is having multiple affairs etc"

4) I have wondered how on earth does one give someone dignity, name, business, peace and embarrassment back to them after taking it all away and dragging them so badly through the dirt all with false accusations. How does one live with themselves after all the damage, hurt, stress they have caused all for just $$$$$$???

5)For those of you who dont know him, Mendy is a massive baleh tzedaka, his home is open constantly to orchim and he is a very frum man, who spends his days learning. I challenge you all to get to know him and see for yourself the real, honest, decent person he is.

6)I comfort myself with this, Hashem is in charge of this world, he knows the truth. Hashem should have mercy on his children and mendys innocence should be proved and her family and her should get the psychological, physical and materialistic help that they need so they do not need to do such terrible things for money an other sad reasons.

I wish you all well, and I ask if you don't know the facts there is no point in making stuff up, it does not benefit anyone.

Shavuah tov

[Deborah Mann]

I live in Stamford Hill and have heard about this story for 2 years. The most important part you are all missing is that these are all ALLEGATIONS!!!! Mr Levy has NOT admitted to anything. Because he has not done anything. Which is currently being proven in court. Her lawyer suggested (in the JC article) what he THOUGHT might Mr Levy should or could say. The entire London community, who have been hearing these lies from the time they were first invented, know the Goldsobel family belong in a psychiatric ward, and totally support the true victim here -Mr. Levy!
Incidentally, these lies only began to circulate immediately after Mr Levy would not support Menachem Goldsobel (father of Yehudis Goldsobel) in court when Menachem tried to lie about a staged hold-up in an attempt to get money via an insurance fraud.
So while you all spew hatred on people you know nothing about, remember this. G-d is the true Judge of all good and bad. I pray that he make the truth abundantly clear, and that Mr Levy be proven innocent. Know that you will be punished for your loshen horah and rechilus. As the Gemoro brings down, embarrassing a person in public is akin to killing them. Realize what is in store for you. Even the anti-semitic JC describe the 'allegations'. Not as you have put it, as though the story was an absolute fact, and proven to be so.

[Deborah Mann]

And 'Ex-Londoner': They had a relaionship? I HAVE LIVED HERE IN STAMFORD HILL FOR DECADES!!! I KNOW THE GOLDSOBELS WELL. THEY HAD NO SUCH "RELAIONSHIP!" WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT???
I am repeatedly shocked by the nonsense people put up here! Just because you can hide behind a pseudonym? G-d knows your real name! You will get what is due to you!!!

[Deborah Mann]

And btw 'no more abuse':
NOBODY can agree that someone is a rapist, unless they have witnessed the incident, or have some form of strong evidence, acceptable by the courts....All of which is totally lacking in this case. Which further proves Mr Levy's innocence, and the entire fabrication of this story by Menachem, Linda and Yehudis Goldsobel.

[lubi SH]

She was 14 and he was 27! So it just is part of Mendy's pattern. He was raping his sister as well, until she committed suicide . and most other victims of his are too afraid to come forward in a community that blames the victims for rape and punishes families for being MOSSER.
Now that one of them had the courage to do so and expose the rabbonim for their denials, surely more victims would feel able to come forward and expose Mendy for what he is , a disgrace to the jewish community and to his family

[prof]

Both goldsobel (45)and levy (40) are products of the lubs. (The daughter must be quite a bit younger not like the ages given here).
And as bad as each other. Whatever the outcome of the case and I tend to favour the levy of the two. Both are or have been OTD.
One cant grow up Jewish on a diet of tanya and moshiach. They have their raskin dayan, where is he in all this. Or the Mrs sudak, shemtov one.
Its a disgrace for both families. Ronnie and tsipi Rachel dont deserve it. If only they wouldnt have joined the lubs they wouldnt be having this problem.
There are many more from them who have gone OCD. When will they ever learn.

[Londoner]

@ prof
I see your blaming this whole situation on the “lubab” and Dayan Raskin.
One thing I can say about our Rov (Raskin), he IS NOT molesting women during marriage counseling sessions, unlike YOUR rov. He IS NOT covering up for his own son who has been serially abusing young girls staying in his house in Manchester, unlike YOUR ROV. And he is not covering up the above abuses, unlike your haimishe, charaidishe beis din.
Our yungerlite are not spending their evenings gambling and their nights in prostitute’s beds, unlike your yungerlite.
Do I have to name the son of a local millionaire who was caught sleeping with MULTIPLE local haimishe wives?
If all the chabad guys are doing is spending their time learning Tanya and about moshiach, then believe me, we are in a lot better shape then your “haimishe, charidishe” community.

[SHiller]

Londoner:

APPLAUSE

[know your]

It's funny but the truth is as follows
One She was 14 he was 27
He was frum, but not married he was still abusing her even after he got married .and yes he killed his sister after raping her for many years.

[prof]

The chabad guys are not spending their time learning tanya or discussing moshiach.
They dont learn gemoro or daf yomi and dont have a single shiur in the place.
How many of their youth, mendy's age and under are not OTD.
You londoner lubab BT have nothing to be proud of. I wonder where your kids are.
Yes they still drink vodka to excess, but are talking with each others wives calling them by their first names and who knows what else. Remember your chigwell rov from the best families.
Yes the other chasidim are spending their time with prostitutes but you cant blame them the way their wives dress. And choosing each others wives wont help. At least they dont make mamzerim.
But chabad wives and daughters who dress like shiksas anyway, their husbands dont have this excuse.
Well chabad believes in equality, whats good for the gander is good for the goose.

[prof]

Oh and I dont believe it.
If it was true these multiple wives would have to divorce.
I dont know of that many divorces.

[yankel]

prof, i guess u havent been to london in a while
in golders green there is a young lubavitch community, where no one dresses like prostitutes & there are plenty shiurim

[Londoner]

@ know your
“It's funny but the truth is as follows
One She was 14 he was 27
He was frum, but not married he was still abusing her even after he got married .and yes he killed his sister after raping her for many years.”

1, and he says she was 16 and he 29 at the time which is legal in the uk.
2, that is a very heavy allegation you are leveling about the sister, as she died so young the law is that there would have had to have been some sort of autopsy, at least superficially, which would have uncovered a murder.

@ prof
You appear to be justifying chasidisher men sleeping with prostitutes, and admitting that the reason lubabs don’t is because their wives are good looking.

As for the case with the chigwell rov, you are correct, it was a similar situation as the current case with the rov in GG, difference being that chabad did not cover it up, they threw him out as soon as they found out what happened.

There is so much krap going on in SH these days with men sleeping around, sexual abuse cases being covered up it is terrible. And the haimisha kehhila is just brushing it under the carpet, but you continue making yourself feel better by bashing Lubavitch and burying your head in the sand.

[Barry]

Deborah Mann, are you using your real name?

If so, are you aware that people have been arrested, held in custody and charged for naming an alleged rape victim on a blog or social network site as this is an arrestable offence under the Section 5 of the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 1992? To do so during a trial is particularly risky.

You should ask Shmarya to delete your post before someone who dislikes you brings it to the attention of the police or the judge hearing this trial.

[prof]

Yankel
I am referring to SH.
Dressing like shiksas does not yet mean prostitutes. Not all goyim are that either.
I am not justifying them just explaining them. Its all very good these rebbes saying how their chasidim's wives should dress, but they dont realise (or dont want to)that just because they wear a streimel which is very fashionable these days that doesnt make them a chosid. Of course all the shtieblech have young groups whom one never sees at night but turn up in the morning to their 'chatsos' shachris minyan and everyone knows what they're up to at night. Their wives think they are busy learning.
R Padwa is only bothered with the internet not with seeing young chasidic rabbis dying all the time like today another one.
Since he had 'resounding' success in his rally because of the huge attendance nothing else matters.

[chaya]

amazing that even though the parents claim they knew about it all the time they still flew her out to be a bridesmaid at his wedding and indeed went themselves very normal behavior for parents in the know

[shliomy]

Wow what sweeping statements! There is no perspective here. There are 4000+ charedi families in London so there are bound to be some "bad" people as well. Rambam says that in every community these things happen. Not all charedi women dress badly, not all chabad women dress "like shikses",(not many actually, most are selfless tired mothers) Not all people are ugly etc. etc. (Lubavitch education in SH is nothing they are proud of I don't think, though they are quite small)

[Suri]

Did anything happen in court today? when is the next hearing? I can't imagine for a second that any jury will believe her. She was clearly enjoying it as much as he was and now that the fun is over because he has grown up and is a mench she wants money. She also knows that the only way she would get any attention from him would be to threaten with something more serious than did happen. And of course her very 'honest' father needs her to make some money too. All this and more will come out in court and no one will win.

[golders green]

MENDY, YOU SHOULD KNOW, ALL NORTH WEST IS BEHIND YOU, EVEN IF IT DID HAPPEN, AS THEY SAY, SHIT HAPPENS, BUT LOOK AT YOU NOW, YOU ARE A TRUE TZADIK. YOU ARE A PROPER EXAMPLE OF HOW EVERY YID SHOULD BE. CHESDED AND CHESED ALL DAY LONG.

[memoi]

SORRY GG, I'M QUITE SURE MENDY IS NOT READING ALL THIS SHIT!!!
WHAT I FIND FUNNY...WELL, SAD REALLY, IS THAT I KNEW YEHUDIS GOLDSOBEL AS A KID. BACK THEN SHE WAS TELLING EVERYONE THAT HER DAD, MENACHEM GOLDSOBEL HAD RAPED HER REPEATEDLY, AND THAT HER MOTHER, LINDA GOLDSOBEL, WOULDN'T HELP HER. SO THE ONLY THING THAT'S DIFFERENT NOW IS THAT SHE'S CRYING WOLF ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE.
SECONDLY, WHEN SHE AND HER FAMILY FIRST STARTED THIS WEB OF LIES, SHE CLAIMED SHE HAD BEEN 'TOUCHED' ONCE, INAPPROPRIATELY BEFORE HE WAS MARRIED. OVER THE PAST 2 YEARS, HER STORY HAS GROWN AND GROWN AND GROWN...MUCH LIKE PINOCCHIO'S NOSE... PROVING TO ALL THAT THE ENTIRE STORY FROM START TO FINISH IS ONE BIG PACK OF LIES!!!

TO THE COMMENTER ABOVE ATTACKING SOMEONE ELSE ABOUT PUTTING UP NAMES...THIS STORY HAS BEEN ENTIRELY FABRICATED BY YEHUDIS AND HER PARENTS. THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR 2 YEARS. SO, NO SECRETS BEING EXPOSED OVER HERE.
AND TO GG AND THE REST OF YOU BORED, MISERABLE SOULS, MENDY HAS B"H COUNTLESS SUPPORTERS, WHO KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF DOUBT THAT HE IS INNOCENT. MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, G-D, THE ONLY TRUE JUDGE, KNOWS THE TRUTH. THE GOLDSOBEL'S WILL BE PUNISHED SEVERELY FOR THEIR LIES, FOR TRYING TO DESTROY A MAN, AND FOR THE TOTAL AND UTTER CHILLUL HASHEM THEY HAVE CAUSED WITH THIS ABOMINATION!!!

[Slacker]

Is the verdict today?

[SAH]

I challenge anybody to find a homogenous group of people who act with more morality than the Orthodox Jewish community.

In fact these immoral occourences happen so rarely, it is news and is placed on this website.

All communities have their bad apples but Orthodox Jews have less.

[Shmarya]

Posted by: SAH | October 30, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Please.

Available evidence shows that the number of these crimes is GREATER in closed societies with strict sexual taboos – including and especially in haredi communities.

You live in a sewer, little man, and you try to cover that up with your transparent lies.

[shocked!!!]

Regarding the comments above: You all say how all Jews should stick together, so why are you picking sides? Keep your comments to yourselves - their worthless! At the end of the day God is the true judge and he knows the full story, God will punish the wrong in His own way. From reading these comments it just seems like all of you have no lives. It seems like you base your lives around fighing with other Jews which shockes me as I thought the London Jewish communities stick together, but obviously I was wrong. This is outragious!

I don't understand how you say the victims family are ruining peoples lives when all you haters who are commenting here are the ones who are ruining lives with these horrible comments.

[Sarah]

Dear Yehudis,

Know that you still have a chance to retract what you have done. It is not too late. If you were coerced into this, you can say so, and thereby protect yourself.Do something before it is Chas Vesholom too late.Remember that Hashem knows all, and that He is the true Judge.
With love,
from a friend who cares,
Sarah

[well in the know]

LISTEN UP FELLOWS, I KNOW MENACHEM AND FAMILY EXTREMELY WELL, AND U GUYS ARE SPREADING SUCH UNBELIEVABLE NONSENSE, U GUYS HAVE NOT A CLUE.
AND LET ME JUST TELL U THAT THIS MENUVEL LEVY IS A VERY SICK MAN, ANYONE THAT KNOWS A BIT OF HIS HISTORY, U WOULD THROW UP. TRUST ME GUYS, THE TRUTH WILL ALL COME OUT VERY SHORTLY. ITS ABOUT TIME THESE PEOPLE ARE BOUGHT FOR JUSTICE.
INCLUDING YOU MR HALPERN.

[well in the know]

for all you that assume and make things up and follow rubbish rumors.

JUST WATCH THIS SPACE.

[chaya]

Sarah, no one has coerced yehudis in to doing anything, i know this for 100%, and if u were a real friend, than show yehudis your support and find out the true facts.
please be a real friend to a girl that has suffered abuse to the worst extend.
i do not wish what she went through on any human being, not even a fly.

[memoi]

The bottom line, 'Mr well in the know', is that you can not possibly KNOW which rumors are true or false. Its one person's word. And not a shred of evidence! How likely does that make her story sound?

[shliomy]

Shmarya, I think SAH is right I wonder if you can substantiate your claims with figures. GREATER per capita per what? in my un-scientific poll, I look at my whole street of single parent families unemployed louts and versus a few thousand chasidic families here, where once in a while some scandal emerges.

[SAH]

Shmarya lets see what information you have.

I have to say that only a frum yid at heart would create such a website.

It is a shame you have chosen to fill your life with petty hatred....suppose you and Ahmedinejad would make good buddies... I am sure you can put the pictures of the 2 of you hugging up on your site.

[50 shades of grey]

Never mind '50 shades of grey'.... this and the other Golders Green story are looking to be a lot more interesting and salacious. Lets face it, everyone on this blog, both reading and contributing, cant wait for the next 'instalment' or 'chapter' and to find out who did what with whom, who said what, who denied what and using all this to try to imagine 'who is doing what to whom' then who would (I) want to do what with who' etc. Ahhhh, like the rest of you.... I cant wait for this to really blow up. Show Stamford Hill and the rest of the world how to do it not just end up dead in a ditch from a drug overdose.

[Big deal]

This time next year it will all be forgotten. Stop being so self important. The jewish world can continue without the biggest rov in golders green and the biggest rov can continue even with this scandal because many of the men are in fact only jealous of him! he can talk dirty with their wives and even inspect their shaalos! look on the treife internet to see how many sites there are for people who get kicks out of handling womens used undergarments.

[yankel]

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/89089/charedi-rape-trial-collapses

A Chasidic businessman charged with rape and indecent assault of a young woman will have to face a new trial in May after a jury at Wood Green Crown Court failed to return a verdict.
Menachem Mendel Levy, a father of five aged 40, had pleaded not guilty to sexually abusing the woman from the age of 14 until 20.
He argued that he had had a consensual two-year affair with the woman which began when she was 17.
Judge James Patrick ordered a retrial when the jury were unable to reach a conclusion after more than two days of deliberation.

[Debbie]

We read in the weekly Portion that the daughters of Lot seduced their father, and brought upon themselves G-d's wrath.
How interesting that this very week,the above-mentioned court-case gets turned on its head. We learn that the girl crying rape actually seduced a married man...
I am now inclined to believe the stories of her family's repeated attempts to extort money out of the accused.

[shliomy]

Debbie, May I correct you 1)they gave him wine and then did what they did. I don't think you can call that "seducing". 2)Correct me if I am wrong.I think the court failed after the jury could not make up their mind. There was no majority one way or another "hung".(thats not the same as turned on its head)

[SH]

Living in Stamford Hill, knowing both people since they were children it is very sad that so many strangers have what to say about something about which they know absolutely zip. This poor girl has been tormented for years and so many of you have the temerity to decry her and her family because YOU don't like the subject and are in denial? Conversely the man in the case also needs help.
Why cant those of you with big mouths keep shtum and face the fact that far too many men with long beards, in black garb go round hiding under their Purim costumes knowing that others will defend them for defiling our young people, ruining their lives and giving them serious hangs ups for the duration of their time on this planet. i hope this case finally encourages all the other victims male and female to go to the police. Hashem should have mercy on all of YOU. Nechama.

[memoi]

Sorry, you can't know for a fact that what she says is true. You are doing the same as everyone else on this blog. Making assumptions. Actually many of the above commenters are from Stamford Hill, myself included. In fact, I remember well that Purim that you got drunk out of your mind. I wonder if people were un/kind enough to tell you all you said and did in that stupor. Unlike you, I am frum from birth, and unlike you, I have actually known both families very well for decades. The girl and her father are well known to have serious mental illness including but not limited to pathological lying. (One obvious example is how this very story has changed drastically since the G's began their rumors, about two years ago.) It is also common knowledge that she has repeatedly attempted to extort money out of the accused. So before you start assuming, maybe go and get some facts. Ask her classmates who she claimed was abusing her while she was a young girl. (I will only say she claimed then, that a close male relative was molesting her.)
And remember that how you judge others is precisely how G-d will judge you!

[Ben]

memoi
You are so full of crap, your the so typical stereotype of a Lubavitcher from stamford hill.You talk about g'd will judge, i want to be far far away from you when you get judged