Crown Heights: A 'Love' Story Complete With Coerced Abortions

The son of a powerful Crown Heights man is an alleged drug dealer who has impregnated two young Chabad women out of wedlock in past few months. How this situation has been handled by Chabad rabbis will shock you.

 

The son of a powerful Crown Heights man is an alleged drug dealer who has impregnated two young Chabad women out of wedlock in past few months. How this situation has been handled by Chabad rabbis will shock you.

This man's son is an adult, and has been described to me as Crown Height's Jewish community's major drug dealer.

The alleged drug dealer's father is a senior member of a Crown Heights service group I'll not (yet) name (Hatzolah, Shomrom, Shmira, etc.).

The alleged drug dealer impregnated a young Chabad woman in Crown Heights several months ago and another in North Miami Beach more recently. Both women come from ba'al teshuva families.

Chabad rabbis, including M.B. who is a very prominent Crown Heights rabbi, acting in conjunction with the the alleged drug dealer's father, allegedly heavily pressured the women and their families to abort the babies.

Both women, especially the North Miami beach women, resisted. But under extreme pressure from Rabbi M. B. and other major rabbis in Chabad, the women each eventually gave in and had an abortion – the one in North Miami Beach allegedly terminated her pregnancy Thursday.

Comments

[Isa]

One halacha for them, another halacha for us

For them to have the babies , they will be forever tainted with people expressing "whore" or "slut" in their hearts

On the other hand, have an abortion and keeping quiet about it, they still can have a 'white' wedding

[Eli, what me messiah?]

Before the trolls roll, I don't doubt the reliability of the story as Shmarya applies a higher level of scrutiny and fact-checking to these FM scoops than the NYT typically does to its own stories.

My reaction is...perplexed.

Part of me wants to believe that Chabad, for all of its many defects, is just a religious cult trying to bring more into the fold and doing so often with the same contempt for secular law that we get from the Satmars, etc, with often naive, stupid, or reckless blundering.

But then there are the stories of Lubavs especially getting caught in nefarious dealings, far more serious than Section 8 cheating. This is not the first or second time we read about Chabad and drug connections, money laundering, international childnapping, etc. and this time a heavy Lub rabbi sticking his neck waaaay out to get a drug dealer out of a personal pickle.

So part of me seriously wonders whether Chabad really does have a criminal operations side.

[Fleishike Kishke]

I call upon all American Christians members of the Right Wing/Republican Party to come to Crown Heights and educate the Chabad-Lubavitch Christian Neo-Cons on know how Christianity/the Right Wing/Republican Party views the "murder" of a viable fetus. I call upon the U.S. Government to investigate possible racketeering/gangster-ism/ abuse/fraud and general disregard for U.S. Law and Custom among Crown Heights elected and non-elected Rabbis and leaders, as well as leaders and members of their "Emissary" movement known as "Shluchim."

[joe]

Please name names, so we can check the facts

[evanstonjew]

Too much detail...you should protect the identity of the women.

[put a square into a hole]

Interesting to note that (rabbi) M B a big shot in the chabad worldwide rabbinate has a son who lives in Miami and has been hanging around CH latley.....any connection???? JUST THINKING OUT LOUD!!!!!!

[Rocky]

I would hardly call it a "Love Story". It could just as easily have taken place in a black ghetto neighborhood. When so many Haredi finish their formal schooling with so little in the way of marketable skills, it should not come as a surprise that some of the young men turn to drug dealing. For a peak into the world of Haredi drug dealing, watch the movie "Holy Rollers" with Jesse Eisenberg.

[Sarek]

The story does not tell us which heksher is on these drugs. Some of us might not accept that particular rabbi's certification. I, for one, would not inject tref heroin. It must be from a rabbi I recognize as pure.

[Dr Eli R]

S Bistritzky of CH is father Yingy Bistritzky Member of a Crown Heights Hatzolah CH6

[Sarek]

Where do I begin
To tell the story
Of how great my drugs can be?
The sweet addiction story
That is older than the sea.
That sings the truth about the drugs she brings to me.
Where do I start?

With the first shtup
She gave the fetus
To this empty world of mine.
Then I just had
Another love another time.
She came into my life
And made the living fine.
She got knocked up.

They are now knocked up
And now I want them to
Get rid of all those kids.
The rabbis will make
them to abort.
They'll threaten them with
excommunication.
They have no choice.

How long does pregnancy last
When rabbis make them to abort?
I'll send them both to go away
And I'll be free.

I made love twice in just one day.
I forgot to use a condom by the way.
I need my dad to make the problem go away.
Then I'll be free!

[Josh]

M B can only be rabbi moshe bogomilsky

[soso]

Well, that's known that religious, sexually restrictive environments are conducive to abortions! Tell us something new!

[Former Lube]

S Bistritzky of CH is father Yingy Bistritzky

MONEY MONEY loads of it, that’s Lubavitch for you money and yichus, if your one of those then you can do anything and still become a sholiach otherwise your F****

[DJ]

Can we still be kind of happy Lubavitch obviously supports upholding Roe vs. Wade?

[Mike]

To put a square in the hole. Obviously you are just trying to spread a lie when the individuals are listed below. And if you are truly a big man then put your name to the comment when you attempt to spread a bull shit rumor.

[Maskil]

M B can only be rabbi moshe bogomilsky

Posted by: Josh | October 28, 2012 at 04:19 PM

I thought Bogomilsky was better than that. I know one cannot compare, for it can never be tested, but I sense that the anguish of a coerced abortion is worse than the anguish of having an unplanned child. Make that tenfold if you are educated Orthodox. I would be surprized if the girl doesn't end up attempting suicide one day. If this doesn't passel Bogomilsky from dayanut I guess he's got tenure or something.

[believe]

This story is not truth
Otherwise Shmarya would be the first giving the names with pics and more details

[roars]

living in nmb i would not be shocked if the story is true

bogo bistri all of them hae enough power and money to make a BT family get an abortion

i wish shmaya would spell it all out so we know whats going on

[seymour]

One halacha for them, another halacha for us

Posted by: Isa | October 28, 2012 at 03:12 PM

same can be said of all powerful people of society

[spacedout BT]

There is no way to trace this story. All evidence has been eliminated. The girls and their families silenced, the pregnancies terminated, the fix is in. Only the Kodosh Boruch Hu knows the details, writes down the facts, and ultimately executes judgement. Someday a bereaved woman will write a hesped for her unborn child.

[news]

Imagine a newspaper wrote a story like this. They'd be laughed out of the business.

[shmarya is a satmarer]

Shmarya,atleast give the name of the boy i doubt such a righteous person as youlself would let a "drug dealer" roam our streets.

[simple jew]

B"H

Why not just send the girls out of town for a while... have the babies and give them up for adoption to nice frum family?

and you guys don't see the need to keep men and women seperate?

[Baruch Shelo Asani Charedi]

Let me get this straight. The gezheh can get away with drug-dealing, marital infidelity and abortion, but for one who commits the despicable unspeakable "crime" of going to college, no family connections can save them? Talk about misplaced priorities.

[do not trust chabad . they do not respect baale tshuvas]

chabad/messianic cult does not respect
baale tshuvas .

is 'rabbi' MB married ?

what a mess ! as i said before , and i'm saying it again , no one should trust chabad .

just imagine what this MB must do , in addition of those two incidents he was busted . there must be MUCH more incidents he was not busted for . for sure .

[Rebitzman]

and you guys don't see the need to keep men and women seperate?

Nope.

When you treat part of life as part of life, you don't have to try to hide this stuff, and oddly enough.........it doesn't happen as often in a community where sexuality, birth control and responsibility or taught and demonstrated.

[Baruch Shelo Asani Charedi]

@ simple Jew, no gender barriers, physical or cultural, will stop a sexual predator. The Chabad-style separation of the sexes causes unrealistic expectations in relationships. Combine that with the rapid dating-marriage process, and the result is a lot of unhappy marriages. The lucky ones are those bold enough to trash their families' reputations with a divorce.

[Maskil]

Why not just send the girls out of town for a while... have the babies and give them up for adoption to nice frum family?

DNA test; paternity suit; child support; on-the-record disgrace; extortion etc.

[SkepticalYid]

and you guys don't see the need to keep men and women seperate?
Posted by: simple jew | October 28, 2012 at 07:02 PM

A man commits such heinous crimes and is abetted by Chabad higher ups, and that's the best you can say? You really are a sick twisted man.

[Bassy the Haredi Slayer]

Chabad treat BT and converts just as bad as their Litvish brethren, Molesters usually go for the children of BT and converts because they know they are less likely to press charges so their status would not be questioned.

The girls who exposed Tropper the shtuper has her conversion status questioned and had people like UOJ calling her whore.

[Yerachmiel Lopin]

Most of the religious right are not opposed to abortions when it suits them. They just want to make sure women don't have easy access. The royalty will always get abortions done when it suits them. If need be they will fly them to another country.

[Solly]

"How this situation has been handled by Chabad rabbis will shock you"
Sorry Shmaria, I don't mean to bust your bubble, but the story doesn't shock me!! (Sad to say)
Please fill in the details as you get them (such as ages both parties, rape or consensual, etc)

[such a shame]

Nine months are slowly getting close,
I am surrounded by the blanket of yours;
Slowly I am growing in your womb,
Please don’t send me to the tomb;
Oh mother, can’t you hear my voice?
Don’t you have another choice?

Aren’t you happy? You can see me soon,
I am excited to see the world of sun and moon;
In your womb, I am counting days,
To show you mother, my little gaze;
Oh mother, can’t you hear my voice?
Don’t you have another choice?

Mother, I am excited for my first toy,
I promise I will become your joy;
Please don’t feel me as a burden,
Whatever you decide cannot be undone;
Oh mother, can’t you hear my voice?
Don’t you have another choice?

I know you are waiting to see me play,
More than you I am excited to see that day;
Oh mother, won’t you start my life story,
Please don’t make my life a history;
Oh mother, can’t you hear my voice?
Don’t you have another choice?

I am excited to play in your lap,
With my deeds, I will make you clap;
Oh mother, give me a chance to live,
Even if you don’t, I will forgive;
Oh mother, my life is now a question,
Please don’t give it name of abortion.

[R. Wisler]

Ah, the glorious "torah" of Schneerson again displays its true colors.

Schneerson encouraged the culture of "getting high" based on the low, primitive, mongol Eastern European culture that spawned him and his group.

To a Lubavitcher, there's no difference between losing your senses to alcohol or to narcotics. Schneerson saw to that. If Schneerson were truly a Jewish leader, he would have encouraged temperence to his deluded followers.

Rather, Schneerson encouraged orgies of "getting stoned" so that his followers would swallow the hours of bullshit that he spewed at his gatherings and would be more pliably molded to worship him.

Lubavitch is nothing but an Eastern European folk-cult with no resemblence whatsoever to what Moses received on Sinai.

[R. Wisler]

Sticking my "had" up a dead bear's (note the possessive apostrophe you illiterate Eastern European trash) will not change the fact that Schneerson is rotting in hell with all of the other subhuman garbage that tried to set themselves up as idols.

[Oy_Vegas]

Sarek you made me laugh

[WTF]

This site used to provide news you wouldn't see elsewhere. But this piece with no names is just BS. The Enquirer does a better job.

[Not understanding?]

I dont understand. No where in the article does it say that sex was coerced. That means these girls are not standard frum,,, They played, and messed up, and THEN their parents go to a rov? What is scarier is that there are so many commenters up till now, and NOT ONE said anything like this? Their parents went to a rov? The girls who are having sex out of marriage give a hoot about what a rov says?

[Jeff]

I dont understand. No where in the article does it say that sex was coerced. That means these girls are not standard frum,,, They played, and messed up, and THEN their parents go to a rov? What is scarier is that there are so many commenters up till now, and NOT ONE said anything like this? Their parents went to a rov? The girls who are having sex out of marriage give a hoot about what a rov says?

Oh, my.

[Jeff]

Posted by: such a shame | October 28, 2012 at 09:14 PM

Of course, your precious baby, if brought to term, could always end up in hell.

There are many people who truly wish they hadn't been born. Of course, don't let that interfere with your sentimental, adolescent world view.

[Baruch Shelo Asani Haredi]

@NU, even if the sex technically weren't coerced it wasn't merely playing. Girl needed her fix, was short of cash, and the dealer was more than happy to accept "alternative" payment. Happens in the ghetto all the time.

[No_Light]

Such a shame - you are disgusting.

It's a shame indeed, a shame you posted your delusional, mawkish, anti-choice, fantasy bullshit, on a post about forced abortions.

You're fucking sick in the head, and clearly have no shame about spewing your saccharine-coated lies wherever you feel like it.

You should team up with Simpleton Jew, see if you can't form a half-functional mind from combining the tiny fragments of scattered neurons bouncing around in those guano-filled craniums you have.

[ruthie]

that is religious ....very holy...
pressuring these young ladies to have abortions.
wow!
compassion-null
understanding-null
wisdom-null
knowledge-null
i pray these young ladies find some support because from the sound of things...they have-null

[Jeff]

You're fucking sick in the head, and clearly have no shame about spewing your saccharine-coated lies wherever you feel like it.

Most likely an evangelical. It's the sort of thing they post online and send around in their group emails.

[Shoshi]

Their parents went to a rov? The girls who are having sex out of marriage give a hoot about what a rov says?

Posted by: Not understanding? | October 29, 2012 at 02:05 AM

Where does it say they "went to a rov"? It says they were pressured. These families live in communities. Being pressured by leaders of those communities is not the same thing as consulting a rabbi about what to do.

[Lazar]

Shmarya
Are you out of news that you have to make up this BS.?

[soso]

Well, now that the abortions have taken place, I suppose it will be easy for the Rav/Rabbonim to deny their involvement and to lay the blame fair and square on the shoulders of the women. Therefore, I suppose that those women will suffer more from the publicity than the man who impregnated or the Rov... (I hope they kept a DNA sample as proof)

[Shliach with experience dealing with this AH]

IF the Rov in this case is Moshe Bogomilsky it is no surprise to me. He is a total low life with ABSOLUTELY no morals. If anyone could be described as a menuval (betachlis) birshus haTorah it would be this asshole of a lowlife par excellence. Just look at the comments on the Chabad sites when he was running for Rov up there -- and that's just what they allowed through.

[Shliach with experience dealing with this AH]

Hurricanes are like a shviger, they come for a day or two, bluzin zich, and then leave a mess for a couple of weeks........

NEW SQUARE: signs have been put up 2 remind Sandy to stay on the women's side of the street.

[Baruch Shelo Asani Haredi]

LOL. Irene didn't follow the New Square gender segregation rules, as a result of which the authorities issued a cherem against all tropical storms.

[Jeff]

LOL. Irene didn't follow the New Square gender segregation rules, as a result of which the authorities issued a cherem against all tropical storms.

Heh! That's right. Now, "Sandy" is an androgynous enough name that they can make it whichever gender they require.

[spacedout BT]

Now its gong to be very hard to take seriously a shaliach coming to speak about the future of Jewish children

[mr b]

[REDACTED] is the name i heard from the street, word has it she tried to extort money from the rich powerful family.
Sorry [REDACTED] to hear abt the abortion

[mr b]

another thing that people should know is that she's known for telling men that she's on the pill. i can't imagine how many other people had this experience with her and paid up.

[No_Light]

Mr B(astard) .

What part of FORCED do you not understand?

Fucking cretinous shitlord.

[mr b]

Mr light,

The only person that was forced here was the taxpayer that had to pay for this poor girls abortion, i can't imagine her wanting to shlep around a kid on all her night calls.

[mr b]

Bad for business. fucktard, its all about the gelt.

[Jeff]

In these situations, whenever these characters can't defend their community, the girl ends up being a harlot.

[rebeljew]

Jeff

Did you actually defend abortion above in the thread by stating "some people wish they had never been born"? Really? How do you propose to certify the correlation? Clearly, some people wish to die, but this does not mitigate the crime of random murder. Or does it? However, you feel about abortion in general, you might want to scrub that comment before you ever decide to run for office.

[Happens all the time and "even" in Lakewood]

FYI: She is NOT a BT her father is a frum lubab from birth..... please do "some" fact checking first... but i guess it makes for better story.

[Unbelievable]

Why are you mentioning a girl's name why not put everyone involved in there or no ones at all?
The guy is a total loser and a promiscuous low life.
He goes along on his merry way, just shows you that Money and position can wipe away any disgression if there's enough of it.

Very disapointed and let down by all the sheker and falseness that surrounds our communities. No one to look up to or anyone to respect . Forget about getting a " mashpia", who could you trust??? much less ask for advice!

[Maskil]

Posted by: No_Light | October 29, 2012 at 03:41 PM

They don't understand the concept of coersion and duress. Had they been in Auschwitz and witnessed someone bury Jews who were still breathing while a German officer held a gun to his head they would sincerely call such a person a murderer.

[Unknown]

I have to say I have read this post and the comments and am truly saddened. To see this much hatred.. This was the reason the beit Hamikdash was destroyed. Hatred for another jew.

Firstly, If you are going to name names, then you should give all the details out..

Secondly, everyone dies. It’s the natural process of life. What you have and who you are related to might have an effect in this world but when this life ends and it comes time to be judged before G-d, you’re not going to get a free pass because you’re great great grandfather’s uncle was a great rabbi somewhere. You’re not going to get a free pass because you were wealthy. You’re going to be judged on the good and the bad you did in your life. Whether you were kind, you followed the torah and mitzvot, if you loved G-d and tried to be the best jew you could be or if you were a liar, a selfish person that didn’t care who they f**cked over as long as it suited their needs, or just a not good person.

Judgement day is coming and no amount and money or yichus will save you..

[Hannah]

Why is it necessary to put names? This is lashon hara in its purest form! You are easentially 'killing' these people

[Hannah]

Forget lashon hara. What about common decency? Human decency? To the creator of this website; you are no longer religious but making this website makes you a better person? You don't see anyone in the religious community with a website like this.

[mr b]

[REDACTED] from Canada is the other girls name , word on the street .

[n]

you should remove the names of those involved. while the situation is abhorable, you need to respect victim's rights

[Legros Vargo]

Everything happens for a reason and I believe in that. Let's just respect and understand them. After all they are still human and are not free from mistakes.