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September 19, 2012

Where Haredi Girls Go To Learn

Darkei Sarah Seminary class"Any discussion about the study material is explosive, including the core subjects. Other seminaries teach "secular" subjects, but there the girls are not allowed to matriculate. For many years this ban was enforced due to the steadfast view taken by the leader of Lithuanian Jewry, Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv, against higher education. The great separatist maintained that matriculation would break down the barrier to the university - which is why the number of Haredi girls' schools offering matriculation studies can be counted on one hand."

Darkei Sarah Seminary class

For haredi girls, a chance to graduate high school, previously taken away, is now slowly returning. Tamar Rotem reports in Ha'aretz:

…[Darkei Sarah] is in its third year, but only this year will it really begin to grapple with the target it set itself, when 11th-graders take their first matriculation exams.…

The compulsory curriculum includes six weekly hours of science and six hours of computer sciences, as well as matriculation studies in subjects such as Bible and literature. One student says she didn't expect the studies to be of such a sophisticated level: "I went through some crises," she admits, "because in my previous Beit Yaakov the level was much lower." She adds that after a year of hard work she feels she has reached the level of her class.

"These girls will one day support their families [while their husbands study Torah and Talmud],” [Darkei Sarah’s principal Sima] Valess says, in a way that could not possibly suggest that they will follow independent careers. It is apparently important to her to emphasize how much the school's line is Haredi, lest anyone suspect that they are teaching values unsuitable for a Beit Yaakov.

However, Darkei Sarah is revolutionary if only for its attempt to teach the regular national religious school syllabus and not the Haredi version. For example, in literature they study the writings of S. Y. Agnon, Haim Sabato and songs by the Hebrew songstress Zelda, whom other Haredi children have not heard of - not to mention international literature, such as Ernest Hemingway's "The Old Man and the Sea."

"The potential for friction between the religious outlook and the study material is great and constantly challenges us," admits the principal. For example, she cites the decision not to include certain books that use language deemed "inappropriate for our girls' ears."

The civics curriculum is also approved by Valess. "We emphasize the duty to obey Jewish law, before any discussion about democracy or the law," she says.

Any discussion about the study material is explosive, including the core subjects. Other seminaries teach "secular" subjects, but there the girls are not allowed to matriculate. For many years this ban was enforced due to the steadfast view taken by the leader of Lithuanian Jewry, Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv, against higher education. The great separatist maintained that matriculation would break down the barrier to the university - which is why the number of Haredi girls' schools offering matriculation studies can be counted on one hand. They are mainly in the Haredi periphery (Haifa, Rehovot, Petah Tikva), far from centralized Haredi supervision.…

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Other seminaries teach "secular" subjects, but there the girls are not allowed to matriculate. For many years this ban was enforced due to the steadfast view taken by the leader of Lithuanian Jewry, Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv, against higher education.

He should be remembered for committing thousands of his followers to lives of misery and ignorance due to prohibiting the observance of the Torah commandment to teach one's children so that they can earn a living.

It's great that these girls are learning something useful but tragic that the only reason they are allowed to do it is so they can support their lazy husbands to sit, smoke, drink vodka and fart all day in kollel.

Who needs to make a living when the govern. gives you everything you leech of others thats their motto.

this is such a sad subject, of little girls in a land of university-educated people but denied their own opportunity to learn.
I recently had a conversation with a teacher of secular subjects at a Chabad-run school outside the US. She talked about how the secular subjects (required by law) were left for the afternoon when the girls were exhausted from their religious studies. No science ("they don't think it's useful for a girl who's going to be married and start having children at 18").
Comically (tragically) she talked about how the secular teachers were required to put stickers on top of anything in the state-provided secular books that were deemed not kosher. Pictures of a cathedral, for example, or non-kosher animals. The books were filled up with stickers, to the point where a math teacher pose questions like, "if the farmer has five [stickers] and he sells two [stickers] at the market, how many [stickers] is the farmer left with?"

Comically (tragically) she talked about how the secular teachers were required to put stickers on top of anything in the state-provided secular books that were deemed not kosher.

They have done well. In a lot of frumma "schools" where they actually allow limited secular learning (only in order to comply with the goyishe law) they actually tear pages out rather than putting stickers over the offending images (which could be removed with an appriopriate solvent to reveal the prohibited image).

Someone should tell Romney to read this web site on a regular basis. It might give him a better insight into why so many people think that "the country is moving in the wrong direction." This particular story happened to be about Haredi girls in Israel. But it could just as well been written about Haredi girls in Boro Park or Kiryas Joel.

My suspicion is that Haredi families are overrepresented among the households that don't pay Federal income taxes. If the husband is off studying torah and the wife has a low paying job commensurate with her poor secular education (if she is even working at all), then the family is probably among the non-payers.

It is time to update the Ronald Reagan image of the welfare queen. She isn't just black anymore. Maybe she is a Jewish mother in her late 20's who never had a chance to get a good secular education and now stays at home looking after her six children in her subsidized housing unit. She shops with food stamps and shows her Medicaid card at the clinic. And if her Rabbi said it was OK to just get a religious marriage and not to bother with a civil license, maybe she is collecting TANF (temporary assistance for needy families, which replaced AFDC) as well.

The books were filled up with stickers, to the point where a math teacher pose questions like, "if the farmer has five [stickers] and he sells two [stickers] at the market, how many [stickers] is the farmer left with?"

This is one of the reasons I keep saying that incremental change is impossible. They aren't getting better; they're getting worse.

Radical government interference is called for, both here and in Israel. Threaten to take away their benefits; threaten to take away the kids. Of course, that won't happen.

The irony is, of course, that many kiruv professionals trot out the numbers of accomplished, educated Jews. This shows how we're not a bunch of backward baby machines.
As Goldie Hawn said, in Private Benjamin, "Where are the yachts? I think I joined the wrong army."

David/Exactly. Jancsibacsi the writing is on the wall: They are getting kicked off of welfare. Whoever(politicians) allowed such idiocy to allow "religious" people to be supported by "non-religious" people should be line up and shot on sight. So many secular people did not have children but, because they could not afford them and now we grasp why. Their money is ripped right out of their paycheck so politicians can give it to OTHER PEOPLE who will VOTE for them to return them to the taxpayers trough. THIS IS ALL COMING TO AN END. The Haredi know this so they are getting the women ready to become their "money bag." :Like pimps farm out their girls to work to keep them in style.
The Haredi are a vile putrid evil satanic cult.
WOMEN WAKE UP!!!! stop marrying these useless parasites. They are not that good of a lay. Nobody is.

Some of you will watch from the sidelines as these ambitious young women advance at work and in the ranks of entrepreneurs. They may end up signing some of your paychecks.

As someone on the Charedi street, I can say that. The principal can't say that today, but in 20 years she will point to some of her graduates and confirm what I am saying today.

Schmend, anti much?

Some of you will watch from the sidelines as these ambitious young women advance at work and in the ranks of entrepreneurs. They may end up signing some of your paychecks.

Please. It would never be allowed.

Hey Rocky... Romney belongs to his own cult which keeps their girls secluded in ignorance and superstition.

Do you think he'd really give a shit about Frum Girls (and Boys!) not being educated in the sciences?

Jeff @ 4:06

......because, of course, it's a cash business.

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