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September 19, 2012

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dh

Jeff @ 4:06

......because, of course, it's a cash business.

danny

Hey Rocky... Romney belongs to his own cult which keeps their girls secluded in ignorance and superstition.

Do you think he'd really give a shit about Frum Girls (and Boys!) not being educated in the sciences?

Jeff

Some of you will watch from the sidelines as these ambitious young women advance at work and in the ranks of entrepreneurs. They may end up signing some of your paychecks.

Please. It would never be allowed.

dh

Schmend, anti much?

The Anti-Schmendrick

Some of you will watch from the sidelines as these ambitious young women advance at work and in the ranks of entrepreneurs. They may end up signing some of your paychecks.

As someone on the Charedi street, I can say that. The principal can't say that today, but in 20 years she will point to some of her graduates and confirm what I am saying today.

God is not amused

David/Exactly. Jancsibacsi the writing is on the wall: They are getting kicked off of welfare. Whoever(politicians) allowed such idiocy to allow "religious" people to be supported by "non-religious" people should be line up and shot on sight. So many secular people did not have children but, because they could not afford them and now we grasp why. Their money is ripped right out of their paycheck so politicians can give it to OTHER PEOPLE who will VOTE for them to return them to the taxpayers trough. THIS IS ALL COMING TO AN END. The Haredi know this so they are getting the women ready to become their "money bag." :Like pimps farm out their girls to work to keep them in style.
The Haredi are a vile putrid evil satanic cult.
WOMEN WAKE UP!!!! stop marrying these useless parasites. They are not that good of a lay. Nobody is.

AztecQueen2000

The irony is, of course, that many kiruv professionals trot out the numbers of accomplished, educated Jews. This shows how we're not a bunch of backward baby machines.
As Goldie Hawn said, in Private Benjamin, "Where are the yachts? I think I joined the wrong army."

Jeff

The books were filled up with stickers, to the point where a math teacher pose questions like, "if the farmer has five [stickers] and he sells two [stickers] at the market, how many [stickers] is the farmer left with?"

This is one of the reasons I keep saying that incremental change is impossible. They aren't getting better; they're getting worse.

Radical government interference is called for, both here and in Israel. Threaten to take away their benefits; threaten to take away the kids. Of course, that won't happen.

Rocky

Someone should tell Romney to read this web site on a regular basis. It might give him a better insight into why so many people think that "the country is moving in the wrong direction." This particular story happened to be about Haredi girls in Israel. But it could just as well been written about Haredi girls in Boro Park or Kiryas Joel.

My suspicion is that Haredi families are overrepresented among the households that don't pay Federal income taxes. If the husband is off studying torah and the wife has a low paying job commensurate with her poor secular education (if she is even working at all), then the family is probably among the non-payers.

It is time to update the Ronald Reagan image of the welfare queen. She isn't just black anymore. Maybe she is a Jewish mother in her late 20's who never had a chance to get a good secular education and now stays at home looking after her six children in her subsidized housing unit. She shops with food stamps and shows her Medicaid card at the clinic. And if her Rabbi said it was OK to just get a religious marriage and not to bother with a civil license, maybe she is collecting TANF (temporary assistance for needy families, which replaced AFDC) as well.

David

Comically (tragically) she talked about how the secular teachers were required to put stickers on top of anything in the state-provided secular books that were deemed not kosher.

They have done well. In a lot of frumma "schools" where they actually allow limited secular learning (only in order to comply with the goyishe law) they actually tear pages out rather than putting stickers over the offending images (which could be removed with an appriopriate solvent to reveal the prohibited image).

Eli, what me messiah?

this is such a sad subject, of little girls in a land of university-educated people but denied their own opportunity to learn.
I recently had a conversation with a teacher of secular subjects at a Chabad-run school outside the US. She talked about how the secular subjects (required by law) were left for the afternoon when the girls were exhausted from their religious studies. No science ("they don't think it's useful for a girl who's going to be married and start having children at 18").
Comically (tragically) she talked about how the secular teachers were required to put stickers on top of anything in the state-provided secular books that were deemed not kosher. Pictures of a cathedral, for example, or non-kosher animals. The books were filled up with stickers, to the point where a math teacher pose questions like, "if the farmer has five [stickers] and he sells two [stickers] at the market, how many [stickers] is the farmer left with?"

jancsibacsi

Who needs to make a living when the govern. gives you everything you leech of others thats their motto.

David

It's great that these girls are learning something useful but tragic that the only reason they are allowed to do it is so they can support their lazy husbands to sit, smoke, drink vodka and fart all day in kollel.

David

Other seminaries teach "secular" subjects, but there the girls are not allowed to matriculate. For many years this ban was enforced due to the steadfast view taken by the leader of Lithuanian Jewry, Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv, against higher education.

He should be remembered for committing thousands of his followers to lives of misery and ignorance due to prohibiting the observance of the Torah commandment to teach one's children so that they can earn a living.

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