Travels Of Hasidic Rebbes Volume 1: The Vizhnitzer Rebbe Visits Prison
A Shiva Call In A Prison
Shmarya Rosenberg • Failedmessiah.com
Yeshiva World reports that the Vizhnitzer Rebbe visited Israel’s Massiyahu Prison Tuesday to pay a shiva call to a son of the late Shomrei Emunim Rebbe who is serving a prison sentence for an unnamed crime in the prison’s yeshiva program.
Besides the private shiva call, the Vizhnitzer Rebbe also spoke in the prison’s synagogue to an audience that included former President of Israel Moshe Katsav, who is serving a prison term for rape, and Jewish terrorist mass murderer Ami Popper, who reportedly has become a ba’al tshuva (penitent; newly Orthodox) in prison.
Update 8-30-2012 7:32 am CDT – It appears that the son of the Shomer Emunim Rebbe is in prison for child sexual abuse, rape, sodomy, obstruction of justice and incest. However, this decision is dated 1997, and he would have needed to be sentenced to at least 15 years for this to be the reason he's in prison now, and that's a very long sentence to be handed down in Israel. So we need to look into this further.
why'd they let him leave?
Posted by: netflix | August 29, 2012 at 12:15 PM
The circus must go on theese bozos including the rebbe think they can dupe the masses with their self rightous antics.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | August 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Unnamed crime...... one can only guess what the
pervert was found to have done.
Posted by: Sarah | August 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Is this filed under Hesed?
Posted by: blueberry muffins | August 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM
missing is these interesting titbit from the article
The rebbe wanted to make a shiva visit to a son of the Shomrei Emunim Rebbe ZT”L who is serving a prison term in the Torah Wing of the prison.
wow thy made it they have their own wing in prison
Posted by: seymour | August 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM
must be a really slow news day
Posted by: tr | August 29, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Who is Ami Popper?
Ami Popper: He wore an IDF uniform 20 May 1990 and asked men waiting at a bus stop in of Rishon L’Tzion for their identity cards.
After confirming they were Arabs he lined them up and opened fire, killing seven. He was taken into custody shortly after the act. He also stated that he had been raped by an Arab when he was 13 and had committed these killings out of shame and a desire for revenge as well as in response to the attacks related to the so-called First Intifada.
Posted by: Lubavitchers are Christians | August 29, 2012 at 01:18 PM
"... in the Torah Wing of the prison..."
Truly a sign of today's frumma velt.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | August 29, 2012 at 01:29 PM
Why they do not have a yeshiva in ק׳ק Otisville
Posted by: Bassy the Haredi Slayer | August 29, 2012 at 01:43 PM
Yeshiva World reports that the Vizhnitzer Rebbe visited Israel’s Massiyahu Prison Tuesday to pay a shiva call to a son of the late Shomrei Emunim Rebbe who is serving a prison sentence for an unnamed crime in the prison’s yeshiva program.
I fail to see the point and the problem here.
Posted by: Jack | August 29, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Jack, there is none.
Posted by: Jake | August 29, 2012 at 04:05 PM
Bassy the Haredi Slayer:
"Why they do not have a yeshiva in ק׳ק Otisville"
That mitzvah is saved for you, sooner than later i hope.
Posted by: rabba hoenig | August 29, 2012 at 05:02 PM
What is with this "unnamed crime" routine? What is it shorthand for? In America on occasion 'an unmentionable crime' always meant sodomy.
Posted by: seth | August 29, 2012 at 07:17 PM
Ami Popper "hazar btshuvah" (got religious) long ago. He got married, had several kids. When he was out on furlough, his wife and most of his kids were killed in a traffic accident (he ws driving).
FYI
Posted by: Nobody | August 29, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Hey, "nobody" stole my name.
Anyway, in response to his comment, I can't help but think shabak could have been involved. Or perhaps an arab terrorist group. One of those targeted "traffic accidents" that happen so often to prominent settler personalities.
Posted by: nobody (the original) | August 29, 2012 at 10:03 PM
nobody - I was always Nobody (capital "n"), so everyone can recognise that we're different anonymous freaks.
I hate to break it to you, as shady as part of the shin bet is, and repulsive as arab terror(ists) are, it was Popper's fault (I recall pretty clearly he smashed into a van full of tourists and caused them a lot of damage, too). He was driving without a license, hadn't driven for years, was tired, and turned around to smack one of his kids who was having a tantrum.
Posted by: Nobody | August 29, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Posted by: Jack
I fail to see the point and the problem here.
Posted by: Jake
Jack, there is none.
Of course not, guys, specially if he visited the victims' family prior to his trip. You know, the murdered ones, the rape victim, the ones affected by the "unnamed crime". Or did he visit them after the trip?.
He did, didn't he, not just the perps?.
Because that would be kind of... noticeable if he didn't, chaps. =/
Posted by: Bob Guthrie | August 29, 2012 at 10:37 PM
...As noticeable as a Catholic Bishop visiting pedophile priests, or Saudi Arabian Imams paying a prison visit with al-Qaeda terrorists.
"Is not the same!"... High rank Religious figure visiting criminals of the same faith.
Deal.
Posted by: Bob Guthrie | August 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM
please why all the hate the rabbi went to pay his respects to the son due to the passing of the father a friend of the rabbi thats all its a high profile shiva call in a uniqe location by the way the crime commited was a white collar crime a little different than shtupping little kids i donr remember the specifics of the crime but i will ask around and get back to you guys
Posted by: justsayin | August 30, 2012 at 02:55 AM
shmarya please erase my post i was wrong the rabbis son is in prison for commiting sexual crimes thank you i apologise for my haste in judging the other posters
please accept my regrets
Posted by: justsayin | August 30, 2012 at 04:43 AM
נגד העורר הוגש לבית המשפט המחוזי בתל-אביב-יפו כתב אישום (ת.פ. 3048/97), בו מיוחסות לו עבירות של התעללות בקטין, עבירות מין במשפחה (אינוס ומעשה סדום) מעשה מגונה בכפיה, תקיפה מינית של קטין, מעשים מגונים בקטין בן משפחה והדחה בחקירה.
בהתאם לכתב האישום בוצעו העבירות האמורות במשך כעשר שנים, בבת אחיו של העורר, מאז היותה כבת שמונה. בתקופה זו היתה המתלוננת נתונה לאחריותו של העורר.
http://www.ruling.co.il/בש%22פ-5000-97-ראטה-יעקב-נ.-מדינת-ישראל_4197bef3-ed8e-1318-9775-2c79bef392ad
Posted by: Crime details | August 30, 2012 at 07:00 AM
Posted by: Crime details | August 30, 2012 at 07:00 AM
thank you for posting the crime details i was thinking of another rabbis son please accept my regrets shmarya please erase my earlier post thank you in advance
Posted by: justsayin | August 30, 2012 at 07:08 AM
Crime details
Thanks for posting it,although in Israel it is old news,and every body knows,
but i didn't know it was in the media
Posted by: yonatan | August 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM
shmarya please look into this i have been looking on my own but havent gotten very far
Posted by: justsayin | August 30, 2012 at 04:43 PM
IDK wikipedia says ami popper is dead
Posted by: Todros Modene Yankel | August 31, 2012 at 07:16 AM
Perhaps he should consider staying there in prison.
Posted by: Chicago Sam | August 31, 2012 at 03:41 PM