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August 08, 2012

Shomrim Moves To Make Security Camera Footage Secret

Leibby Kletzky 2The head of Borough Park's haredi street patrol wants to keep footage from government funded security cameras away from police to prevent police from arresting haredi domestic abusers, a new report claims.

Leibby Kletzky 2
Leiby Kletzky

Borough Park's Shomrim Want To Block Police From Seeing Security Camera Footage
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

Borough Park’s Shomrim Patrol does not want police to have access to security camera footage gathered under the Leiby Kletzky memorial program, the Forward reports.

The program, funded by a million dollar grant from the state, is supposed to place security cameras throughout the neighborhood.

But more than one year after 8-year-old Kletzky’s grizzly murder and months after the grant was announced, only one camera has been installed and there is no public accounting of where the money has gone.

State Assemblyman Dov Hikind, who secured the grant, refuses to give that accounting. His most recent statement regarding the cameras came months ago, when he denied that Agudath Israel of America, the haredi umbrella organization that orders Jews not to report suspected crimes like child sexual abuse directly to police or ACS, would have any role other than administrating the grant money.

Hikind made that claim after the Brooklyn Daily reported that Agudah had been given the entire $1 million.

Hikind also claimed that there would be a professional security company which would monitor footage, and that police would have complete open access to that footage in real time, 24/7.

But now it appears that Borough Park’s rabbis, who act as Shomrim’s guides, have blocked that from happening, stalling camera installation in the process.

Borough Park Shomrim’s head, Jacob Daskal, has reportedly now said that the centralized system of cameras with full immediate police access would allow police to make domestic violence arrests, something Shomrim – and therefore the neighborhood’s haredi rabbis – oppose.

“The camera is very good for the community, but [only] if it’s a private thing [kept within the community]. If it’s a public thing it might hurt a person who doesn’t want to arrest her husband for domestic violence,” Daskal told the paper.

Shomrim allegedly withheld security camera footage from police during the search for Kletzky, preferring to screen it themselves – sometimes several times – before deciding whether to allow police to see it, sources told Failedmessiah.com and other news media at the time of the search. However, none would agree to have their names published for fear of retribution and many would not identify themselves even on a private, off the record basis.

Shomrim waited almost three hours after being notified of Kletzky’s disappearance before it notified police – a delay that, despite official claims to the contrary, almost certainly hurt the police search for the 8-year-old.

Neighbors claimed that they had made previous complaints to Shomrim about Levi Aron, Kletzky’s killer. One complaint involved an attempted child abduction. The most recent complaint had allegedly been made just weeks before Kletzky was kidnapped and dismembered.

Daskal admitted to a NY Daily News reporter that his organization kept a private list of suspected child molesters and sex offenders, but later denied he had made that admission or that such a list ever existed.

But his desire to keep security camera footage away from police, and to have it screened by Shomrim, not by an outside security firm, may indicate that Daskal’s organization did keep such a list.

The break that almost led to the capture of Aron and the recovery of Kletzky’s dismembered body came from security camera footage discovered by Yanky German. German, a lontime critic of Shomrim, found the footage on his own by disregarding Shomrim’s search plan and instructions.

When FailedMessiah.com first reported that Kletzy was dead and that his murderer, Levi Aron, was captured – the first published report to name the murderer and among the first two or three to report the murder and the capture of the muderer – we also reported that Aron was a known pedophile.

Aron had no police record of sex crimes, however, and polce insisted that no evidence of a sexual nature had been found on the remains.

But police did not address whether that alleged lack of evidence was the result of the degraded condition of the remains or of how the remains may have been treated by Aron.

Sources close to the case have long felt the case will never come to trial, because the discovery process would reveal damaging information about the search for the young boy and its aftermath the police, the medical examiner and Shomrim do not want revealed.

Late last month, Aron agreed to plead guilty in September in exchange for a sentence of 40 years to life in prison.

The plea deal had allegedly been encouraged by Leiby Kletzky’s family.

The family, which was poor, has been given a new, larger home by the haredi community. Leiby’s father was also given money to purchase a Borough Park kosher butcher shop.

Shortly after the murder, the family started a foundation to memorialize their son. In a statement issued on July 20, 2012, Leiby’s father wrote that the fund would “would help anguished families in crisis and need.”

"Had my dear son Leiby lived he would have contributed so much good to the world. He was such a sensitive and kind soul. Now that his beautiful life was cut so short we should not allow the world to miss out. Our family wishes to establish the LEIBY KLETZKY MEMORIAL FUND to perpetuate the memory of our dear Leiby and to keep him alive in our hearts and minds. This fund would help anguished families in crisis and need, something that Leiby would have wanted to do had he been given more years of life,” Nachman Kletzky’s statement said.

But it appears the money may have been used to subsidize summer camps for haredi children and for kiruv, missionary, purposes:

LEIBY KLETZKY MEMORIAL SAFE SUMMER CAMP FUND FOR CHILDREN

Providing Children At Risk With A Safe Summer Camp Experience To Last A Lifetime!

Help the Leiby Kletzky Safe Camp Fund raise an additional $150,000 right now!

Our objective is to send troubled children, in danger and at risk, who are coming mostly from insecure homes, to a safe Summer Camp for a unique experience to last a lifetime!

To many children at risk, a summer among warm & compassionate friends is not freedom from homework and tests. It is freedom from abuse, isolation, and neglect!

Your gift will provide children struggling year round with an abusive environment with a summer filled with with the care, affection, and simple fun of living that they miss all year but are so desperate for. It will be more than merely a breath of fresh air, it will be pure oxygen for their bodies and souls!

The benefits of a summer like this lasts for a lifetime! Your gift can save the lives and futures of countless of our youth!

Thank you for your generous caring!

In the haredi community, "at risk" children are children who are at risk of leaving the haredi community or children who are Jewish but who are not currently part of the haredi community.

A haredi kiruv, missionary, group, Kars-4-Kids, has been sued by several states because of deceptive fundraising that uses the term "at risk" to imply true non-denominational distribution of raised funds when in truth it gives more than 90% of its money to Oorah, a haredi missionary organization it controls. Kars-4-Kids settled the suits out of court.

The Kletzky fund has not yet given an accounting of the money it raised.

The fund's legal name is KHAL B LEV ECHOD (KBE). Khal Blev Echod, LLC  has been in existence for seven years and is a for profit company. A nonprofit called Khal B Lev Echod was also started seven years ago. It is headed by Rabbi Binyomin Eisenberger, the family’s rabbi. No IRS filings are available for the nonprofit.

A call to the number listed on the fund's website was routed to voicemail, and an email sent late Wednesday afternoon to the email address listed on the site seeking an accounting of funds raised and disbursed has not yet been returned.

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stop the funding now and claw back the money

Kiryas Joel has a "Security Patrol" ALL PAID FOR by grants. This security patrol does not benefit the surrounding community at all. This 'patrol" sole purpose is to monitor "outsiders" who may observe the criminality going on inside the enclave. This patrol is a HUGE wast of taxpayer money that they get no benefit from considering that the State Trooper Barracks is right next to KJ less than a half a mile.
Haredi sponging/living off of taxpayer$$$$$ and rescources with NO RETURN of benefit to the community. Leeches.
If anyone can tell the gentiles what it is that the Satmar contribute to society and AMERICA please let me know.
Grant monies, at least 80% go into the pocket of the politicians. Look at Dov Hindkins assest now and when he first ran for office.

Perhaps this video will help explain. The Satmar Mafia has the governor on speed dial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOX8EjvVakk

I think that since it was public money ALL people should be able to look in on the cameras, not just the police. The cameras should be connected to the web for all to see in real-time.

scum

WoolSilkCotton,
Politicians are politicians and will do anything to get votes.Look at Romney with his visit to Israel how much stupidity he rambled there all for the Jewish American votes.So my friend,it is not a satmar mafia thing its the politicians who are whoring themselves.

Shmarya,
What's up with the no reporting on the recent developments in the Kolko from Lakewood case, and on the Tamar Epstein vs Ahron Friedman saga?

Deremes, you are right.

All politicians will do anything for votes and for money.

If Satmar has votes and money for politicians, they have the right to use those to their advantage.

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Deremes-It takes 2 to tango,satmerers and the politicians

"All politicians will do anything for votes and for money."

Romney was in Lakewood today for a fundraiser and raised 1.5 million. Pretty good for such poverty stricken Jews.

The feds are looking for gershom kranser in chicago. I wonder what the connection is?

I heard it was the marshals office looking for kranser. I was also womndering why in chicago.

Agudah has pocketed the money and put up one most likely non-working camera. Arrest the entire bunch of them on suspicion of grand larceny and misappropriation of funds. Par for the course. Money is made available for security, but someone at Aguday needs some gold plated toilet paper.

This question may sound a little naive, but how can a group of whom so many of their members collect welfare have so much political power? I mean if this were to happen in the barrio or the ghetto it would be ludicrous!

What's up with the no reporting on the recent developments in the Kolko from Lakewood case, and on the Tamar Epstein vs Ahron Friedman saga?

Posted by: ultra haredi lite | August 08, 2012 at 06:02 PM

The Kolko development was this afternoon and the judge is full of crap.

I asked for proof of the Friedman thing and none was provided.

I'm pleased to see that Shmarya has expressed regrets about not attending the Kinnus. I have advocated from time to time that he go on a speaking tour to raise funds, with Yochanan Lavie as the opening act, rather than utilize unsavory pop-up ads. Perhaps when Yochanan's personal situation resolves (may it be for good) this could get planned.

As to the SECURITY CAMERAS: they are currently undergoing Beta testing with a software program that will recognize female figures and blur them so that has v'sholem the security people don't have to look at has v'sholem women. Only when this is accomplished, will the cameras be released.

Also note that the WJW story published today is wholly based on Eidensohn, who is not honest, and that it does not appear to jibe with Eidensohn's original claim, which is that police came to the scene and helped Friedman and that the FBI was involved.

Did it happen?

We'd know if Friedman would release the police reports but he hasn't.

Abracad.--

Regretfully, I will be unable to attend the gathering.

Best wishes or success.

Abracad.--

Regretfully, I will be unable to attend the gathering.

Best wishes or success.

Women are forbidden to report to the police domestic violence.

BT organizations should advertise;
MOLESTERS OF ALL KINDS. BECOME A FRUM JEW. WE WILL LET YOU MOLEST. WE WILL NOT INFORM THE POLICE.

You're ahead of me on todays Kolko development. What happened?

Vince Ortega -

They are called "Chassidim" and they have a Rebbe who is a central authority figure who they follow unquestioningly, believing that what the Rebbe says is God's will. Anything the Rebbe commands, they do.

So they are able to offer politicians bloc votes in the thousands. The fact that it is illegal for a non-profit organization to recommend who to vote for somehow gets lost in translation, and all of this is done by word of mouth. The Rebbe's handlers tell the people who to vote for, based upon their negotiations with the politicians. If a politician does not dance to their tune, and give in to their demands, they move thousands of votes (in a "bloc") to another politician who WILL do what they ask for.

Also, like the Catholic church which was supported for centuries by the poverty stricken people buying their assurances of entry into heaven, these people give what little they could afford to their Rebbe for blessings, individual audiences, etc. The Rebbe lives like a king, and is usually extraordinarily wealthy.

Also, although the majority of them on an individual basis are generally poor, the rich and poor live in the same neighborhoods and sometimes next door to each other. Prestige in these communities is often based on the pedagree of one's ancestors (called "yichus"). So with the wealthy and poor living in the same neighborhoods, the wealthy provide the funds with which politicians are paid off (sorry, political contributions are made). The wealthy usually become big honchos in these places, gaining a lot of respect from the masses as they throw their money around, put their names on schools and synagogues they sponsor, etc. So while the majority are poor, there is a minority of wealthy Chassidim who live amongst them because they are all tied to the same Rebbe and social structure.

And finally, there is a lot of fraud which has unfortunately become acceptable in their circles. So that some of the people who seem to be poor on the books, are in fact very comfortable, but either make all their money in cash, or find other ways to cheat the system into thinking they are poor, while they are not.

And that is a basic 101 about the situation. Any other questions, feel free to ask. If I don't answer, I'm sure someone else will.


So where is the Brooklyn DA on this outrage.

Close down Shomrim and the Agudah immediately.

This question may sound a little naive, but how can a group of whom so many of their members collect welfare have so much political power? I mean if this were to happen in the barrio or the ghetto it would be ludicrous!

Posted by: Vince Ortega | August 08, 2012 at 08:51 PM

Here in America everyone's vote counts equally, rich or poor, male or female, black or white so the fact that someone is on welfare is an irrelevant point.

I don't like their motivations, of course. I'm no fan of handing Jews over to goyim (whether it's technically mutar in some cases in Hu"L) for whatever reason.

But, since we have no confidence that perpetrators are going to be "dealt with" properly, they should be handed over to those will (theoretically).

That all being said, regardless of politics or religious opinions/hashqafah, I don't think that anyone has any business trusting the U. S. Gov't. when it comes to surveillance.

Sarah/Brooklyn DA Hynes is critised by NYPD officers as "being in the pockets of the Chassids."

Deremes/You are right Gentile politicians are as much in the pockets and are aiding/abetting the Chassid mafia as the handful of Jewish politicians in NYS. My friends tell me "all of Monroe Town Board has been in bed with Kiryas Joel for years and work ONLY for the benefit of KJ not for Monroe and as a result their bank account has grown vastly, is the rumor.
Jew or Gentile criminal behavior has NO PLACE in CIVIL society, as the end result is anarchy.
What kind of humans build a society/culture around OTHER peoples hard earned money??? lowest of the lowest. Sit on your ass/make kids/get state dole, don't forget to kick back 1/3 to the rabbi for getting grants and welfare laws rigged in your favor.........DISGUSTING.
The Chassids even got Obama to get rid of "workfare for welfare."
The Chassids make a good argument for the Holocaust. There I said it. Whys should decent Jews be painted with that bursh??? BECUASE THEY DON'T SPEAK UP and don't get rid of the criminals. Don't want to hand them over to "goyimn" authority???
Then get out of "goyims" land and society. Go home to Israel.

Posted by: God is not amused. | August 09, 2012 at 09:20 AM

Every politician Jew or gentile is working for themselves ONLY.
Politicians are wetting their pants when they hear the word "AIPAC"
Solyndra was given over five hundred million dollars by the politician Obama.
The banks were given billions by the politicians to help out Americans in the mortgage crisis to be able to modify loans i have yet to find ONE person who was eligible for loan modification.The list is endless how the elites and the super rich are sucking the government dry and all you are "concerned" is how poor Jews are collecting money "illegally" to be able to live normal.Disgusting,sick.
They have nothing to be ashamed of even with all their wrongdoings that you so desperately try to seek out.
Boy are you fixated with KJ just don't go there to often becuase you'll get a heart attack seeing what a nice community it is.


BTW,You remind me of another drunken poster who babbles away with all kind of fantasies about Charadeim.

"Boy are you fixated with KJ just don't go there to often becuase you'll get a heart attack seeing what a nice community it is."

Nice community? It's filty dirty with hundreds of toddlers running outside without adult supervision while their fathers study and their mothers gossip. It's the poorest community in NY state but the community with the most granite countertops, the biggest chandeliers, the whitest marble floors and the largest underground black market. A decorator's dream and a shrink's worst nightmare. Nice?


The Chassids make a good argument for the Holocaust. There I said it.

Posted by: God is not amused. | August 09, 2012 at 09:20 AM

Isn't that going a little too far?

@G*d is not amused

You know .. you don't have to share everything that pops into your head. Neither do you have to believe everything you think. Remember that please.

Posted by: Sabine | August 09, 2012 at 09:45 PM

Oooh. Went right over my head. I digested this as meaning they milk the Holocaust to justify misuse of social benefits and not being prosecuted.

@ Eli, although I agree with YOUR interpretation of the facts, however, I seriously doubt this is what the original poster had in mind; otherwise there would have not been the 'mea culpa exclamation' of 'There, I said it'.

Have you ever seen a chaps'em? It' not the domestic victim that's at issue here, it the way shomrim behaves when catching a perp. It's not always on the up and up. I know. Ive been a witness to a crime and subpoenaed to grand jury to find out that a shomrim member claimed he was a witness to the crime as well. Well I was there and was the one who called shomrim, so I know that witness testimony was a lie. And that's how they keep the streets safe and the police dont have to do much in their neighborhoods. -- VIGILANTE JUSTICE.

As for Eisenberg (36 yr old shnook) -- he's digging his grave real fast. He thinks if he behaves like a chassidish rebbe, he can become a litvak rebbe, and the funny thing is -- how in his case the chassidim recognize it's just a "cult."

Finally, what really went on with Kletzky between the police and shomrim, noone talks about anymore. How when the camera footage was found at the leasing lot trailer, the police actually called off their participation for about an hour or so, bc the shomrim and chassidim involved were not working with them, but seemed to be trying to take over the whole investigation. Precious minutes lost.

Imagine a world without DigitalDirectSecurity or even security cameras. More unsolved crimes and more criminals on the loose. I'm just glad that there's security cameras.

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