Kosher Ice Cream Truck “War” Leads To Arrests

A kosher ice cream truck “war” in Sullivan County has led to two arrests and numerous police calls.

Originally published at 9:59 pm CDT 8-12-2012

Kosher Ice Cream Truck “War” Leads To Arrests
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

A kosher ice cream truck “war” in Sullivan County has led to two arrests and numerous police calls, the Times Herald-Record reports.

Joseph Isaacoff, 25, and Binyamin Yitzchakov, 21, were arrested and charged with petty larceny after they allegedly jumped into a kosher ice cream truck owned by a rival, Levy Haboshav, 34, yelled at him and stole his iPod.

All three men live in Brooklyn but sell kosher ice cream to campers at haredi camps in the Catskills.

The incident reportedly took place Sunday, July 15, but the arrests were not made until August 2 when Isaacoff and Yitzchakov voluntarily surrendered.

Haboshav has security cameras inside and outside the truck and the incident was recorded.

“They are competing for business at all the [haredi] camps,” Sheriff's Sgt. Ed Clouse told the paper. “[All three men] are still out there working. We get calls once or twice a week that one has looked at the other one funny,” Clouse said.

Isaacoff and Yitzchakov reportedly each face a misdemeanor charge.

[Hat Tip: Office of the Chief Rabbi.]

Comments

[shame on me]

The question is not who has to sell the ice cream but why you would report such a stupid story. Oh wait. It involved Haredim. I forgot. Back to the basement and time to call the mohel. Got to deal with that uncircumcised part of you. it will change everything.

[Sol]

Thanks for reporting this phenomenal story!! I mean... This is the kind of news that would blow you off your chair!! Now I can go to sleep!!

[Bob Guthrie]

Posted by: shame on me
"Oh wait. It involved Haredim."

Yes, and you went into automated brainwashed Charedim mode, and came running to posts an inane, host insulting post on command.

Predictable little critters, aren't ya?. You guys put Paulov's Dog to shame. ^.^

[TheRealJoe]

The Kosher Ice cream biz is cut throat and I don't know the details of this story however the Habousha family is really doing this job b/c they need the money to pay for their sisters medical bills so I can understand them being extra vigilant in protecting their turf.

[jicky]

Dont think they are Kosher

[Abracadabra]

We get calls once or twice a week that one has looked at the other one funny,” Clouse said.

Mommmmmy, he LOOKED at me funny!

Did NOT!

Did TOO!

Did NOT!

Did TOO!

That's it kids! I've had enough! If you don't stop it I'll take BOTH of your ice cream trucks away!

[P. Almonius]

Weren't ipods banned?

[chaim36]

Send in the board of health and they will close BOTH of them. NO more war.

[Expatriate Owl]

Chaim36 says: "Send in the board of health and they will close BOTH of them. NO more war."

Never mind the Board of Health! Send in the Department of Taxation and Finance to see if they are remitting the sales taxes they should be collecting!

[Eli, what me messiah?]

Abra, hilarious! Yeah, I had the same thought. "Ok, now you guys make up or no ice cream...."

[באסי ציידת החרדים]

The most important thing is that they sold cholov Yisroel ice cream.

[Eli, what me messiah?]

Pardon me, but halachically acceptable for Shmarya to post this article together with the "you might also likes" about Hebrew National and Rubashkin?

Clearly a subliminal message there, as if we needed more evidence that the internet is dangerous.

That and I'm hungry.

[EileenK]

I'm curious why the Haredi campus don't run canteens for the campers and pocket the money? The secular day camp I attended as a seven and eight year old had a canteen, and we brought money for it every day. The counselors would fetch the food after we gave them our orders. Little kids never got to see the inside of the canteen.

[Apikorus al ha'esh]

Nobody even pointed out that it's obvious from their last names that we're talking about bloodthirsty, violent, poor-impulse-control-having Bukharians. Probably not even Jewish.

[Sarek]

In New York City, the wars among the ice cream trucks are violent (arson, beatings.) I guess things are just more peaceful in the country.

[ItsNotEasyBeingGreen]

Stupid story.

[Devorah]

They were just selling ice cream. At least they didn't come into the bunks to molest the boys, therefore, this is a positive story for the trolls. No rapes were reported in the past 24 hours.

[The Anti-Schmendrick]

The name is Habosha with a het although Levi may spell it Chabosha in English. There is certainly no V at the end. He is an innocent victim of two boys who still have a former Soviet mentality.

FYI Habosha is Arabic for quince.

And this is copied from the CH info site.

[Abracadabra]

Devorah - LOL!

Eli wmm - Thanks!

[Shmarya]

And this is copied from the CH info site.

Posted by: The Anti-Schmendrick | August 13, 2012 at 09:36 AM

Please.

It is not.

Stop lying or I'll ban you and delete your comments.

[chayim yankel]

Buchaarer... watch out...

[No Light]

Is the Trollover Yeshiva forcing students and kollelim to read FM on pain of expulsion?

The sheer number of comments stating "This is so stupid" or "You're an anti-Semite and you hate haredim" makes me heartily sorry for the poor souls who are tied to their chairs 24/7, and forced to read the articles.

Does the Trollover Rebbe know what's being done to his adherents? Has he given a heter to visit the site, or is the lack of the heter a possible get-out for these poor, dear haredim?

Someone should do an expose, showing that people are being threatened with dire consequences by their gedolim if they don't read and digest FM. on a daily basis, and prove that they're doing so by leaving comments.

C'v's that more simple, pious people should get dragged into the ways of this nefarious Yeshiva.

Perhaps we could raise money to liberate these people, so that they can go about their lives without being forced onto the internet, without being coerced into addressing R' Rosenberg as Shmaryahoo/Shmatta/Schmendrick etc.

Perhaps Moshiach Eli could donate some of the proceeds of his many choshuve enterprises? This will save the Trollover haredim from having to come here and consort with the erev rav.

[Jack]

Credit of this news is due to Victor Whitman from: http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120812/NEWS/120819954

Shmaraya just copied and Pasted the News Item from Record online.

To Devora:

'No rapes were reported in the past 24 hours.' but one of your secular Jewish friends Richard Cohen decided to whack his mother to death within the last 24 hours:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/just_killed_my_mother_caller_NB84oWx94QLIxMVprY6A0I

Just normal standard news from Secular Jewish super crimes.

[WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar]

Trolls being forced to read FM? Could this be a new civil rights cause?
I will contact my state legislators.
Organize a Race for the Cure.
We need our own ribbon color, and a rubber bracelet.
TrollStrong.org?
A concert to benefit the trolls.
Oy nebech nebech.

[No Light]

WSC you are a true mensch!

The wristbands will have to be black and white. Nu, isn't every other colour flashy and immoral?

Jack - the point is that you Princes of Perfect Piety claim to be better than everyone else.

You insist you're special, blessed and chosen by God, in possession of higher morals, special souls, If that were true then you'd commit no crimes, broker no scams, and dish out no abuse.

But that's bullshit, isn't it? You have the same blood, bones, skin and brains as every other human. The same desires, faults, weaknesses and failings as everyone on Earth.

That means you commit the same crimes, tell the same lies, and make the same mistakes as the rest of us.

Until you live up to your claims of perfection, then Shmarya will keep reporting. Deal with it.

[WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar]

No Light, you are awesome, and I'm sorry you weren't able to attend the Asifa yesterday. (I believe you live far away, perhaps overseas.)

I would like to suggest to FM'ers that for a future Asifa, we have it in a place with WiFi, so that folks who can't be there in person can join us live via Skype. We actually did that last year for one of my kids who couldn't be at the Seder, with the laptop at the table in his place, and it turned out to be a lot of fun!

[Jack]

no light,

If you truly loved shmaray, you could have purchased 2 (or maybe 3)first class seats into LGA or JFK for our lovely Shmaray to attend the Asifa the other day.

[lutzker pub]

they are a bunch a burkarian thugs

[esther]

ice cream wars... and an i-pod... sounds like an episode from a comedy show.

[Abracadabra]

Hey Jack,

Did it cross your mind that perhaps money wasn't the reason Shmarya wasn't able to attend the Asifa?

What are you doing here every day batling away your time? You should be learning! Do you think the Chofetz Chaim took off during Bein Hazmanim? Of course he didn't! He worked for a living most of his life by self-publishing his books and was busy sourcing his printer, working with his distributors, etc. Maybe you should also try a little Derech Eretz with your Torah?

And if you think you are making a difference in talking to us Apikorsim, know that you're only making a fool of yourself, and your representing Hareidim is only making Hareidim look worse than they do already. See, it works like this - my being nasty and obnoxious online does not represent anyone but myself. But as a Hareidi which means you think you're holier and better than everyone else, your being nasty and obnoxious on this blog makes ALL Hareidim look nasty and obnoxious. So, you think you're making a difference? You are making a difference! Only it's a negative difference! You simply reflect badly on your community.

And what are you doing on the internet so much? Your "Gedolim" assered it. Go ask the 40,000 people who wasted their time at the Citifield Asifa hearing the "Gedolim" say that it's assur gamur for all of Klal Yisruel!

[WoolSilkCotton, rock star and sports superstar]

Our Asifa kicked their Asifa's ass!

[Devorah]

"If you truly loved shmaray, you could have purchased 2 (or maybe 3)first class seats into LGA or JFK for our lovely Shmaray to attend the Asifa the other day."

He's too smart to attend. You thugs would stop at nothing. If Mr. Rosenberg were out of the picture, all your dirty little deeds might not be reported globally and honestly. I bet most of you can't sleep at night in fear your name will headline this blog which you aren't even allowed to read, yet know every article by heart.

[Shmarya]

Shmaraya just copied and Pasted the News Item from Record online.

I warned you before to stop lying.

ANYONE can compare the two articles – made especially easy because my article both CITES the TRH article and LINKS to it – and can see that you are lying.

So why do you do it anyway?

Perhaps because you aren't very bright.

Perhaps because you're unethical.

Perhaps both.

Either way, little man, you bought a permanent exit.

Don't let the virtual door hit your pimply ass on your way out.

[jancsibacsi]

Jack -Hey jakie youre haylige hassidim had a guy named reinitz who murdered 3 or more others hassids by luring them into a field and robing them this was over half a century ago so dont be a big shot that only nonreligious jews murder di farshrstinkene husid

[dh]

WSC @ 3:33 - ok, but you're not in charge of the yearbook. And No Light is getting one of those new wheelchairs with wings.

[Bob Guthrie]

Posted by: Jack
"If you truly loved shmaray, you could have purchased 2 (or maybe 3)."

Haha!, you see, it's funny he implies that... Shmarya... is... fat.. and... Oh, fer pete's sake. >.anything.

Yes, good, you are hardwire to hate the site for exposing the foibles of the extremist Charedim inside the community. At least do it with some originality or pizzazz. Make it entertaining, rebut without being insulting. Challenge without being oh, so boringly repetitive.

Can you do that much, Jack?. =/

[Bob Guthrie]

Posted by: Jack
"Shmaraya just copied and Pasted the News Item from Record online."

Side by side comparison on two computer windows sez no, but why let fact cloud hate, right, bubbeh?.

fg, think for a change, ComeOnNow, Jonathan, put a square into a hole, Dave, and now Jack. Guys, you chaps are really getting swamped by a new generation of extremist Charedim (or apologizing supporters). Thinks have been getting lively since my last contributing visit. 0.O

[Bob Guthrie]

Posted by: Jack
"(O)ne of your secular Jewish friends Richard Cohen decided to whack his mother to death within the last 24 hours."

"(O)ne of your secular Jewish". No, no bias here. Let me explain something to you, skippy. This site is to report on the malfeasance of the extremist Charedim, not Orthodox or Secular Jews. Other sites and the main news, paper or electronic, do that already.

Posting like you did, on a site that is critical to your belief, specially with that little bit of "(O)ne of your secular (Jews)", points to a little bias (hate) for anything not Charedim related

"Just normal standard news from Secular Jewish super crimes."

Oh, goody!. Let's play a game called "Wheel of Google"!:

*Haredim+Crime: 25 pages of (concrete) crime search results before tapering down.
*Secular+Jewish+Crime: 1. And it (and a few pages after that) is intermingle with (you guess it) news about Charedim crime.

Don't try to play with "facts", Jack. It will come back to bite you in the a**. Try an "anonymous sources" angle. Harder to trace, and you can still proclaim that you "won" the point.

Oh, and "Richard Cohen decided to whack his mother to death.". Whack, classy. "Richard Cohen murdered his mother." wasn't callous enough for you?.

Do go on, Jack.

[God is not amused]

Bo light/You nailed. Brilliant. Just like to add amongst all the things cited, one thing is missing: NOBODY wants them as neighbors. There is a storefront(for the Haredi) developer who wants to build in Mamakating, NY everybody is up in arms because they don't want their school taxes to go up and pay for the Haredi LIKE Monroe. Mamakating is a quite area they don't want to be over run by noisy traffic on their residential streets like Monroe. Everybody is trying to get out of Monroe because Monroe is becoming like Monsey NOISY and full of traffic from the Haredi. Kiryas Joel taxes show that KJ pays 1/3 of what Monroe taxes are, for the aboutsame price/sqf house. Hence the resentment in the area. NOBODY WANTS THEM AROUND OR HAVE THEM AS NEIGHBORS ....that is a very sad commentary on a group of people. Mind you now THEY WANT IT THIS WAY. They shun people with bigotry and hate. Now that they got what they want...they cry "anti-semite" IF THE TOWNS DON'T WANT THEM and try to stop them from building their ghettos on taxpayer dime, using the rescources they don't pay for.

google it. Kiryas Joel 99% DON'T WORK.
70% on welfare, Highest rate of poverty of children(bull crap)........MAMAKATING does not want a repeat of this in their peaceful quite low taxed suburbs. Can we blame them???? Nope.

[Shmobagel]

Here is a video of the incident http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAIq68jzC0c&feature=player_embedded

[No Light]

Thanks WSC! Yeah I'm in the UK, in an area where sheep outnumber people. Alas, the woolly beasts are bone idle
, and very cliquey.

When approached and asked how much it would cost for one to drag me to the US for the asifa, they suddenly blanked me. I was puzzled, then I saw the yellow flag flying from a tree, and noticed that the lambs had peyos.

The sheep started banging on about "ChaBAAAAd", and how they would keep their long wool until MM "Shearson" returns. So I gave up!

dh - Have you heard of the WotWots? I want a chair like they have. One that hovers, and puffs out coloured smoke!

[Eli, what me messiah?]

ChaBAAAd!
Posted by: No Light | August 14, 2012 at 01:03 AM

ROTFL!

And I second the motion to allow virtual attendance at the next jamboree.

[The Anti-Schmendrick]

Jancsibacsi, that Reinitz story is an old Hungarian version of the same story kids tell in schools and summer camps about some mysterious released criminal who lures people, usually children, into the woods and (kills, rapes, molests) them.

In my day it was Farmer Anderson or Lester the Molester, and we told those tales to little kids so they would not see and report older kids smoking in the woods near school.

Psychotics do lurk everywhere as psychosis is a biological illness that can happen in any ethnic group, but so do tall tales with different cultural references.

[The Anti-Schmendrick]

Admittedly, copied is a strong word that does not pertain in this case.

However, this is regurgitated news, and the interesting thing is that had you done a little more work, you would have:

1) been able to find out where Levi Habosha is from and whether he is a meshichist (I don't know the answer to the latter but it is known).

1a) been able to find out that some locals are annoyed by Habosha/all kosher ice cream trucks.

2) known that Habosha does not end in a V. Was that the upstate newspaper's error? They should know to check their work as well.

[google]

come and make a bracha, a bracha, a bracha, come and make a bracha the kosher ice cream truck is here

[WoolSilkCotton]

The frumma are annoyed by "all kosher ice cream trucks"?

Why, does ice cream cause too much enjoyment? Mixed dancing?

[The Anti-Schmendrick]

No, some parents in Crown Heights do not have the money to pay for ice cream every day or are concerned about its health effects.

They claim the Habosha truck is particularly aggressive. I don't know if he is the only one in Crown Heights as I don't live there and he wasn't around when I did.

Since the US is a free market country and Habosha breaks no laws, those parents need to take responsibility and teach their own kids whatever they want and leave an honest small businessman alone.

These complaints about ice cream trucks are heard all over the place, and regardless of whether the owner is frum or Pakistani, so long as he doesn't break the law he has the right to try to sell wherever he wants.