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August 29, 2012

Despite Government’s Claims To The Contrary, New City “For All Israelis” Is Designed To Attract Haredim And Repel Everyone Else

Ariel Atias finger"The plans have not been adapted to the secular population from the outset. Buyers will come and see neighborhoods planned with synagogues, mikvas, four-story buildings lacking elevators, and barely one parking space per unit. What business would they have here?" " Hemi Bar-Or, a Harish resident who leads the campaign to keep Harish an open city.

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Housing and Construction Minister Ariel Attias

Despite Government’s Claims To The Contrary, New City “For All Israelis” Is Designed To Attract Haredim And Repel Everyone Else
Shmarya Rosenberg • Failedmessiah.com

Yesterday, the Israel Lands Administration announced tenders for the construction of 4,634 apartments in 29 housing complexes in the northern Israeli town of Harish, which is now a small town of 300 secular and Zionist Orthodox families.

However, residents of Harish are not happy.

Why?

Because they believe that haredi Housing and Construction Minister Ariel Atias (Shas) has cooked the books and intends to flood the little town with tens of thousands of new haredi residents, according to a report in Ha’aretz.

On Sunday, Attias announced that Harish would be turned into into a city by adding another 10,300 housing units.

The government claims the new housing is for all Israelis. But residents of Harish insist that the way the city is being planned proves the government is lying.

Why?

Several reasons.

The new housing will be low-rise apartments, eliminating the need for the special “Shabbat elevators”  haredim now reject after recent haredi rabbinic rulings against them.

Three-room units are designed in such a way as to allow their easy conversion to five room units. (Three-room units are cheaper on initial sale, even if the square footage is identical to five-room units.)

Building finishes are lower grade and amenities secular Israelis favor are lacking. For example, there is no underground parking planned for the new housing and each unit is assigned only one parking space. Secular families are usually headed by two parents who both work outside the home, often making owning two cars a necessity. This is not true for haredi families.

Many of the new apartments will include staggered balconies built to allow residents of each unit to build their own ‘kosher’ sukkah – something most secular Israelis don’t care about.

And significantly more land is allotted for public buildings like schools, synagogue and mikvas than would be the case if the new housing was expected to serve a secular-Zionist Orthodox-haredi population mix.

"The plans have not been adapted to the secular population from the outset. Buyers will come and see neighborhoods planned with synagogues, mikvas, four-story buildings lacking elevators, and barely one parking space per unit. What business would they have here?" " Hemi Bar-Or, a Harish resident who leads the campaign to keep Harish an open city, told Ha’aretz.

Atias originally came up with the idea of turning Harish into a haredi town and tried to push it through the planning process by circumventing it entirely. Eventually, the government was forced to promise that the housing would be for everyone, not just haredim who are primarily linked to Shas.

Even so, at the end of last year the Israel Lands Administration published the plans for Harish on its website. Those plans reportedly stated that the goal for the project is "building a residential neighborhood with about 6,000 units ... with urban characteristics suited to a Haredi population."

Yesterday, Bentzi Lieberman, the head of the Israel Lands Administration, insisted that the new housing would be open to all Israelis regardless of affiliation.

But then Lieberman reportedly told Ha’aretz that, despite that professed openness, "perhaps, we'll see one population [haredim] gaining dominance in three months."

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Well, there is only one solution: buy there if you are secular or modern-orthodox... If they won't buy, you can't blame attias...

Why would you say that?

What about this, among other things?

Building finishes are lower grade and amenities secular Israelis favor are lacking. For example, there is no underground parking planned for the new housing and each unit is assigned only one parking space. Secular families are usually headed by two parents who both work outside the home, often making owning two cars a necessity. This is not true for haredi families.You can't tell secular Jews to buy apartments that don't suit them, and that's the point – the government is building haredi-style apartments. The vast majority of non-haredim don't want them, and haredim will overrun the tenders as a result.

And the government – especially Atias – should get the blame for that.

Is there no end to Charedi parasitism?

They are even entrenching their parasitism e.g. with (barely) one car place per household when normal Israeli households would have two because both parents need to work (partly to pay for Charedi parasitism).

I always felt that they should create Haredi communities and secular communities. Face it, Haredi do not want to live with the seculars and the seculars do not want to live with the Haredim.

Jack, I could not agree more. The Haredim should move to the West Bank where they can fight western civilization with their Arab brethren. Fucking troglodyte scum.

We will have to fight te hatbeards. A civil war is coming, if you choose flight for the Torah, that is. The invading Haredim are trying to steal it.

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A hareidi only city? Could be better than Lakewood.

Anyone who would live with theese hareidim needs his head examined i know them first hand,they are trouble my neighbor here in bp is up till 3 or 4 in the morning during succoth time and keeps knocking you can go crazy from them they dont ackowledge youre existance according to them you dont count if youre not like them making dirt all the time never cleaning up after themselfs kids making noise day or night anyone living with them wont have any peace or quite who needs to live near them.

why no space for a theatre or disco, the herdiem have no shame sooner or later they will be hell to pay and it will not be pretty

they keep on doing this and people will really start to hate them

seymour, what do you mean "will"?

How should housing in a society be allocated when the government controls so much of the process?

Constructing all new housing by open market rules isn't economically feasible in Israel, today.

As bad as the housing situation looks for today's secular Israelis, it will be much worse in 20 years, as today's pre-school Haredi children are all grown up, married off and are starting to have their own bumper crop of babies.

There is one way to stop them. Stop welfare. That way they will both have to work and cannot have time to have 6/10 children.
Any politician that supports this cult of welfare fraud has to be voted out.
LOL!!! Mamakating NY has the exact same problem as Harish!!!7/8 thousand miles away!!same culprits. "The Haredi."

LOL!! Jancsibacsi/Orange County all the way up to Sullivan has the same problem with the Haredi. When they show up. All hell breaks loose. Monroe due to the fact tha KJ is next to it becomes a traffic nightmare. Up till 2am. ceasless traffic. During the day Monroe residential streets are clogged with tractor trailers, Greyhoundbuses, delivery trucks going to KJ. SATURDAY is the only day that there is peace and quite in the Hudson Valley. NYS thruway clogged with Chassids going to Sullivan county Camps, is a nightmare in the summer.
DEFUNDING THEM will turn this around. OUR taxes pay for this cult.

The haredim are clients of those that seek to destroy the Jewish people. Where do you think they get their money from?

Hey I have an idea, can we put up high walls and checkpoints to the exit for this village? Make sure no nasty seculars get in and no precious haredim exposed to the big nasty world. This could work, as long as we make sure they never leave their ghettos.

Housing for all the people....Yeah Right!

It reminds me the government funded housing project in Williamsburg which was supposed to be for the all residents but ended up being a Satmar exclusive housing.

I think it was even reported here

God is not amused-I wrote many times most of the hassidim in bp or kj are on se.8 food stamps i know of a dozen in my block who earn in the 6 figures dont report on minimum income of course they get much more and get all the goodies a few of them even own their own houses on their inlaws name and get the sec8 to pay for it,the only solution to this problem is take away all those goodies and they will fall into place no more 8 or 10 kids .

With all this verbiage about haredi only housing, I don't suppose that anyone cares that in Israel all new government supported housing is for jews only. There have been some 1000 communities ranging in size from small towns to entire cities built since the creation of Israel and Israeli arab citizens are pretty much excluded. Thy can't even get permits to build individual homes to meet their growing population. Maybe these haredi only communities give other jews in Israel a taste of what it's like to be an arab in Israel. If anyone proposed a new city for arabs, jewish heads would be spinning out of control.

Yeah Jerry, you know that Arab nations are Judenrein, right?

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