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June 19, 2012

Triangle-K Issues Statement On Hebrew National Class Action Lawsuit

Triangle K logoTriangle-K threatens to sue anonymous detractors – if they make their names known. Rabbi Aryeh Ralbag writes that  “outrageously  false  and  defamatory  allegations  have  been  made  by anonymous disgruntled individuals against  Triangle–­K products in a complaint filed in court against the company that owns Hebrew National.…The court complaint is filed on behalf of 11 consumers, none of whom claims to keep kosher…The fact is that, contrary to the defamatory  allegations, Triangle–K has substantially increased and improved the kashrut supervision on Hebrew National products since it began its supervision in 2004.”

Triangle-K p.1 6-19-2012 watermarked
Triangle-K p. 2 6-19-2012 watermarked
Triangle-K p.3 6-19-2012 watermarked

Here is the whole Triangle-K statement as a PDF file:

Download Triangle K official statement 6-19-2012

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Triangle man, Triangle man
Triangle man hates particle man.
They have a fight, Triangle wins,
Triangle man

Ralbag fired a shochet who was living with a non-Jewish woman. Was the shochet working for AER?

lets see how fair VIN news is they posted the lawsuit lets see if they post the response which I sent them

lets see how fair VIN news is they posted the lawsuit lets see if they post the response which I sent them

Posted by: seymour | June 19, 2012 at 07:35 AM

they did good for them

I do see a different tactic the way HN is answering the accusation and SMR.

SMR just attacked and shamed the accusers but really did not answer the question unless I am not (miss)remembering correctly.

Think Clemens

Whoever wrote the point-by-point refutation of the lawsuit's allegations deserves a promotion.
Whoever ruined it with the defensive and hyperbolic preface should be fired.
If the same person, he or she should be treated for schizophrenia.
AER either keeps attention on what they control (quality of the products) or let themselves get suckered into a pissing contest that just gives the plaintiffs a public platform. You take the high road while driving on the low one.

PS to Shelly: none of the 11 plaintiffs claim to keep kosher because they are representing a class that includes ANYONE who bought HN products, even non-Jews. Stupid of AER to attack the representative plaintiffs like this, since it is irrelevant to the claims about the quality of the products. Makes them look like they've got something to hide when they probably don't.

correction: should say, You can't take the high road while driving on the low one.

Anyone honest who worked for HN will testify that their guidelines are below any kosher standards; Period.

Growing up, the Ralbags & Triangle-K were always the subject of vague aspersions: You were supposed to avoid products with their hechsherim, but no one would go on record saying why. This always bugged me. Perhaps a court case can get this out in the open once and for all.

Meir, this interview might shed some light on the issue for you:

http://www.canonist.com/?p=322

Also, here is an article about Triangle-K taking over supervision at Hebrew National back in 2004:

http://forward.com/articles/5806/hebrew-national-certified-kosher-e-but-not-koshe/

Yearsa go I was offered to slaughter for triangle k and felt if it was more like the triple k, KKK, all animal are kosher to begin, the chance of being non kosher is less then 1%

The court complaint is filed on behalf of 11 consumers, none of whom claims to keep kosher

Bizarre! Why would someone who is not kosher care about the level of kashrus of HN?

"Bizarre! Why would someone who is not kosher care about the level of kashrus of HN?"
Posted by: Moe | June 19, 2012 at 12:03 PM

ARGGGGHHH!!!! Read the complaint (or the comments here). The suit is a consumer action, premised on the COST of the products being higher because of the claimed "stringent" kashrus processes. The plaintiffs class (if certified) could include non-Jews who say they paid more for HN because they believed it was higher quality beef.

i wouldnt trust ralbag ever
this man covered up for molesters
fake divorces and has sat on more corrupt beis din than almost anyone

his kids are no better

they sell themselves to the highest bidder
i have no doubt his hecscher is unreliable

ConAgra used Business Wire (pay to say) to promulgate a statement that the lawsuit is without merit. You can read it on the ConAgra website:
http://media.conagrafoods.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=97518&p=
irol-newsArticle&ID=1706725&highlight=

Ralbag was my misadir kedushin and I could sense his sliminess a mile away.

Ralbag was my misadir kedushin and I could sense his sliminess a mile away.

Posted by: Dovy | June 20, 2012 at 03:22 PM

Is there a relationship between those facts?! :-O

As of this writing (9:43 PM CDST 20 June 2012) the big three daily newspapers in NY City have not run anything about this lawsuit. Either the fix is in, or newspapers realize the impact of reporting lawsuits not originating by a governmental agency.

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